Pepper Spray, The Truth

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#50 - kumabear (12/04/2011) [+] (16 replies)

The sad thing about all of this is that the protesters are wrong, they are out of their legal right and all broke the law by first detaining the officers and then making a threat (which yes, saying we will let you go, only if you set them free is indeed a threat) Im sorry, but most of these people just want something to scream about, just like the Oscar Grant riots, I'm an American, Im a Californian, and i can tell you, we aren't all super liberal assholes, I myself am a Marine, I hate seeing these protests, they're never peaceful as the protesters believe. In my lifetime I have seen one group of peaceful protesters, they gather in San Francisco, outside of the Chinese Consulate office, they stand silent with signs that say "Free Tibet". Those are peaceful protesters. I personally dislike many of the super liberal people that live in my home town. I have personally been protested against, not only by people I do not know, but also by my own family. Many of my cousins are anti-war, but where I come from people believe this means you must be anti-soldier. I have been in a lot of physical confrontations with "peaceful" protestors. I may be a Marine, I may have been to war, I may have done terrible things, but that does not mean I love killing, that does not mean I am a complete monster, nor a violent psychopath. Im a man, I take care of 14 children and 7 mothers, I never have the thought to harm nor kill them. I am human, so are these cops, so I really don't get anyone calling them monsters or evil, I would fear for myself in said situation, too often "peaceful" protests break down and become incredibly violent, sorry if tl;dr, but for those who did, thank you.

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#606 to #50 - blargchikahonkhonk (12/04/2011) [-]

they say "its our university" no its not you just pay to go there they can get rid of you at any time
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#289 to #50 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]

I respect your opinion, but you are wrong about one thing. Those ARE peaceful protests. They are not hurting anyone. Civil disobedience. Whether they "threaten" the police or not, they never physically harmed anyone, so they are peacefull protesting. All the extreme liberals want (I being torn between a moderate liberal and extreme liberal can speak on behalf of them, I believe) is for nobody to be hurt, killed, or treated unfairly in any situation, and here they are trying to demonstrate that., and what happens?(and do you really think they know that in the eyes of the law that is a threat? I wouldn't interpret it as a threat if I was a police officer. They didn't say that they would hurt them-just that they wouldn't let them leave. If that is taken as a threat, then I have to say I'm disappointed in how over reactive our society really is.)

Police brutality is police brutality. That video did not change my mind on that situation. When I saw the original ones, do you think I didn't assume that they had been told to leave? Of course they have, but they have the right to protest in public, they DON'T need a permit, despite many people who don't know what they're talking about saying that, and they certainly have a right to voice their opinions. Just because there are more of them there than there are of the westboro baptist church protesting funerals doesn't mean we need to treat them any differently. For whatever reason, when the amount of people gets to be too large, we act like they have different rights than a small amount of protestors-but they don't. We are all equal, and that is all the protestors are trying to say.

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#557 to #289 - locking **User deleted account** (12/04/2011) [-]

They are trespassing. You can give it a nice pretty name of peaceful protesting but its still bullshit either way. Whether physicality is involved or not it doesn't matter, they're breaking the law.
If I rob a bank, but demand the clerk to give me all the money (with nothing physical) Is that alright ? Because according to your logic that is, which is RETARDED.

The university wanted them gone, that means they're are trespassing on property. They knew full well what was going to happen, nonetheless they let their ignorant "morals" of the situation get ahead. What bugs me is they thought they were doing something right, THEY WEREN'T.

And dont mind me, just a Canadian observing your lil riots.

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#689 to #557 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]

lol It's their campus how are they trespassing? Those were students. (I mean, they WERE students right? That's what I remember hearing. If they weren't then it was illegal, but if they were I fail to see how it was trespassing.)

And nobody was aiming a gun at anybody like it would be if they were robbing a bank. That's a horrible analogy to make. Saying we will let you leave "if" isn't a threat. They never said how they would "keep" them there. I'm sure they wouldn't even be able to. I understand how it is a stupid statement to make, but I fail to see how it is a threat.

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#745 to #689 - locking **User deleted account** (12/04/2011) [-]

It's not their campus when the owner or w/e wants them gone. Their students, not owners, and have no say. It's trespassing when they're protesting against the will of the owner.

I never mentioned a gun. I said a verbal threat, re-read it, I did say (with nothing physical) for that purpose.

And it is blocking off the police and saying we will let you leave IF. They are not ones to make demands, they cant free prisoners ! The law is still the law. By blocking the police they stop them from leaving, thus stopping police officers. Whatever their demands are or for how long is not important, they're trying to free people arrested for committing crimes.

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#768 to #745 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]

UC Davis is a public school, so there is no owner. So what was the crime again? If a University Student sits on a field on their campus they can't be arrested, but the moment they start voicing opinions while doing so they can be? Are you fucking kidding? That's not illegal at all. Now, while I am beginning to understand your point about them "letting the police leave if..." I still fail to see how this was initially illegal in the first place. It seems to me that, like I said before, this is just a case of people being afraid of large groups of protestors, which is what is really RETARDED here.

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#787 to #768 - locking **User deleted account** (12/04/2011) [-]

The ones arrested was for violence. Not voicing their opinions. And their objective was to leave with the people detained. It wasn't the crowd that was scary, it is stopping the police from doing their job. Stopping the police from detaining people who broke the law is like trying to free them...

And I'm tired now, I came here to laugh not get into stupid politic arguments :/ ...

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#1142 to #787 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]

Well I came here to laugh too, but instead I see this shit on the fucking front page. For a website filled with atheists and science geeks we are REALLY fucking conservative.

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#1426 to #1142 - mcdonaldscupinc (12/05/2011) [-]

Starvaggi i just have to thumb you down, cause you are a fucking moron.

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#1448 to #1426 - starvaggi (12/05/2011) [-]

Well that was rude. I wasn't even arguing with you but all right have your own opinion of me. Care to tell me why? I've been arguin with a lot of people I might as well do so with another.

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#1479 to #1448 - mcdonaldscupinc (12/05/2011) [-]

They didnt have the right to put up tents, they were asked to leave, there were no excessive force only the force needed to get them the hell out of the way. I know the system in USA is faulty like a tower of cards. But in this case the police did nothing wrong. They acted stupid and got burned for doing it. Students do not decide who the police can arrest or not. You cant deny the police to leave with the persons they have arrested, if you do you are just plain stupid.
Not from USA myself, im typing all this from Norway, from a rich family, a rich country and i probably will never have a problem with cash in my entire life. I do agree that the world economics are a fucked up system controlled by way to few people, and america need change, but disrupting police work is not the way to do it. OWS have protested in Oslo aswell they didnt do stupid things and they didnt get burned.

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#1494 to #1479 - starvaggi (12/05/2011) [-]

Well all right. I fully understand what you said and very much agree with the second half.

Here's the problem I have with the first half: I really don't think the pepper spray was necessary. The police clearly could have gone over them, they were sitting down and not attacking them. The pepper spray is an example of police brutality, which has gone up exponentially in the US in the past decade.

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#1508 to #1494 - mcdonaldscupinc (12/05/2011) [-]

You can try to pull people in cuffs over other protesters that demand that you set them free, i dont think that will end very well, and that would mean they would have to move them by force, something they can charge as assault. THey had warnings and they still didnt move, they saw it as a bad joke and that the police will never do anything. They were shaking their pepper spray for like half a minute. I would see it as police brutality if the pepper spray came from nowhere and they didnt need to disperse the crowd, which they had to do. To get the arrested people out.

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#1561 to #289 - kumabear (12/05/2011) [-]

no one was ever hurt huh? read this my friend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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#280 to #50 - cafezhu ONLINE (12/04/2011) [-]

First of all, the sole purpose of the police is to protest the public. Although pretty little princess in a dressistrative orders from the Chancellor of UC Davis was to remove the protesters' tents and equipment,
"We told them very specifically to do it peacefully, and if there were too many of them not to do it, if the students were aggressive not to do it. And then we told them we also do not want to have another Berkeley." -- Chancellor Katehi.
The UC Davis police defied the given order and first arrested students. Which, in turn triggered the rather aggressive verbal exchanges. If the police first unjustly arrested students, who are innocent, non-violent, who were arrested only to scare away other students, what would you do? what you anyone do? What their fellow protesters did was the most civilized and reasonable considering the circumstance at that time.
I personally doubt your assumption of that whatever police do can be justified. They might not be cold blooded monsters, but consider the reason why these lawful evils at all become policemen, consider also when police force pepper spray elderly woman, a protester's skull was fractured by a baton...
Opinions and believes may vary. Data never lie. Q.E.D., marine.

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#579 to #280 - locking **User deleted account** (12/04/2011) [-]

I thought the sole purpose of the police was to "protect and serve"?

The police follows the law, and by doing so generally protects the public.

They arrested the students as they tried to stop police from taking down the tents, obviously they were detained by trying to stop this. They disband the protest and that should have been that.

How can you say non-violent? They try to stop police, which is stupid and against the law. Whether they're violent or not ( we don't know for sure) should be irrelevant, they were still doing their job.

Blocking off the police is not smart nor civil. The protesters knew what they were doing, what happens is there problem because they are breaking the law, and they know it. They were warned, and served. Like it should have been done.

If we make such lenignt exceptions to law, then why bother having it ?

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#1175 to #513 - Keat (12/04/2011) [-]

I was hoping they'd pop off a few paint balls.

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#1189 to #513 - cfeuer (12/05/2011) [-]

exactly. i was lied to and told "they were just sitting there with a peaceful protest"

it was left out that they argued with the police, interfered with the police(the tents), insulted the police, and then ensnared the police.....

and to top it off the only sprayed those who had several MORE warnings than the rest. Go police!

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#1208 to #513 - iliketities (12/05/2011) [-]

that was the same thing a was saying i was like "fucking christ either shoot them with the paint ball gun or pepper spray them already"

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#21 - mrmuffins (12/04/2011) [+] (9 replies)

Fus Do Rah!
Fus Do Rah!
Fus do Rah!

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#780 to #21 - N. Korean citizen (12/04/2011) [-]

question is why they kept screaming MIKECHECK!!! MIKECHECK!!!

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#40 to #21 - JohnStamos (12/04/2011) [-]

Fus Rah Do, bro..

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#784 to #40 - TheTurnbull (12/04/2011) [-]

Apparently not

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#1371 to #784 - JohnStamos (12/05/2011) [-]

LOL SHIT

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#93 - bonjangles (12/04/2011) [+] (1 reply)

What I heard through the whole video:

OWS SHIT AND SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH

WE ARE PEACEFUL

YOU CANT DO THIS

FUCK DA PO-LEESE

YOU MUST STAY

GIVE US BACK OUR STUDENTS

DONT PEPPER SPRAY US OH NOESSSS

YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN GO

I fucking laughed my ass off when they were all chanting you can go. Police just won.

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#1250 to #93 - lighttell (12/05/2011) [-]

i loled at the one logical asain guy saying stop after they said "fuck da police"

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#309 - extralie (12/04/2011) [+] (5 replies)

now i don't feel bad laughing at these.

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#332 to #330 - extralie (12/04/2011) [-]

i take it i'm not the only one?

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#337 to #332 - mhorn (12/04/2011) [-]

nope
i laughed pretty damn hard

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#341 to #337 - extralie (12/04/2011) [-]

hurrah! :D making someone laugh totally made my day!

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#1144 to #332 - pillowbiter (12/04/2011) [-]

your not the only. probably because you reposted comment number 2

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#269 - Crossraod (12/04/2011) [-]

trolololololo

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#233 - nimberoxfeii (12/04/2011) [+] (2 replies)

>They want peaceful protesting
>They break the law.

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#302 to #233 - oldaccountdeleted (12/04/2011) [-]

you can have a peaceful protest while breaking the law, its called civil disobedience, breaking the law isnt necessarily not peaceful. however, in this case, holding police against their will IS NOT peaceful.

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#286 to #233 - foelkera (12/04/2011) [-]

>They put up tents without permits on campus property
>They obstructed police
>LAWS BROKEN, MOTHERFUCKERS

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#470 - samzo (12/04/2011) [+] (3 replies)

protester logic:

Police literally explains what will happend and what actions will be taken.

WUT U DOIN BRAH? U PEPPERSPRAY US 4 BEIN PEACEFUL?¿

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#489 to #470 - N. Korean citizen (12/04/2011) [-]

I did warn them, just following the law

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#833 to #489 - huntinguy (12/04/2011) [-]

hitler approves of content and this post

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#696 to #489 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]

This is an accurate comparison to make. We live in a facist country now, I guess.

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#1339 - argonian (12/05/2011) [+] (1 reply)

"Protesters attempted to shout them down"

They're doing it wrong.

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#1385 to #1339 - AnGealt (12/05/2011) [-]

From approx 1:21 onwards for a bit it sounds like they are chanting FUS RO DAH

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#1327 - fishcanfly (12/05/2011) [-]

My face for the first 13 minutes

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#282 - tastypaste (12/04/2011) [-]

I find it pretty funny how the protesters think they have control over whether or not the police could leave

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#123 - sixtail (12/04/2011) [-]

I love how at the end they just gave up and started screaming "you can go!"

as if the police was going to give a fuck anyways.

good for the police to pepper spray them, douchebags deserved it

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#1072 - Nickutodeath (12/04/2011) [+] (2 replies)

You are not dohvakiin, your voice doesn't do shit against weapons.

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#1090 to #1072 - sirolimar (12/04/2011) [-]

haha funny shit right here ^_^

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#30 - magicana (12/04/2011) [-]

I wish I had more than one thumb to give you. This video sums up the slick professional protesters entirely.

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#1255 - qtipthegreat (12/05/2011) [-]

Stop or we'll arrest you

*dont leave*

alright, leave you are breaking the law!
*nope*

Alright we arrested some of you now go away

-Set them free!

We are going to have to use force if you continue...

-Set them free!

*uses force*

-you are abusing your powers!!!!!!!!!!!

Hipster logic

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#3 - desodomizer (12/04/2011) [+] (1 reply)

I commend you for posting this. Hopefully you have prepared yourself for all the thumb downs, but rest assured I gave you one up.

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#4 to #3 - krakenzombieyo (12/04/2011) [-]

Thanks. I appreciate your generosity. :)

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Pepper Spray, The Truth

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Just watch the video.
EDIT: WOW! Front page! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!!
Thanks so much for the thumbs ...more »

Just watch the video.
EDIT: WOW! Front page! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!!
Thanks so much for the thumbs
TOP 15!!!
Dedz go to Timasu. Make sure to check out his videos on YouTube.