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#12 - grimmreaperz (12/20/2013) [-]
i'm a very kindhearted person and I'm always the one who is there for my friends. but just because instead of believing christianity beliefs because i'm wiccan i'm automatically doomed to burn in hell? I know it shouldn't get to me because its not my beliefs but some people I've met have been extremely mean about it....
i'm a very kindhearted person and I'm always the one who is there for my friends. but just because instead of believing christianity beliefs because i'm wiccan i'm automatically doomed to burn in hell? I know it shouldn't get to me because its not my beliefs but some people I've met have been extremely mean about it....
#15 to #12 - anonymous (12/20/2013) [-]
Hows the eight grade going?
User avatar #16 to #15 - grimmreaperz (12/20/2013) [-]
very well actually, we're learning about something called "europe"
i'm 23, you jackass
#3 - warlockrichard ONLINE (12/20/2013) [-]
User avatar #2 - deescalation ONLINE (12/20/2013) [-]
apparently
User avatar #1 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/20/2013) [-]
It's not being a "cheerleader", it's acting well towards others and yourself and imo doesn't necessarily require you to have a particularly strong connection with God but rather refrain from doing anything to spite him or those who follow his word. I believe a non-religious person who lives a life giving to others and not doing harm to themselves or anyone else has a place right next to a devout religious person who lives the same way, just as evil people will be punished regardless of the religious affiliation because people who truly accept religion and what it represents would not act badly towards others.
#5 to #1 - iamnuff (12/20/2013) [-]
actually, the bible says pretty clearly, you can be as good a person as you like, but if you don't get down on your knees every sunday and praise the lord, then you go to hell.

I like your interpretation better, but unfortunately it's not accurate.
User avatar #6 to #5 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/20/2013) [-]
That's an older and much stricter interpretation of the Bible that now even most Priests and other religious figure heads don't 100% agree with.
#7 to #6 - iamnuff (12/20/2013) [-]
so?

people's stance on religion changes over time (because progressives like the new pope show up, and realize that the old ways aren't really acceptable anymore.

but that can't change what the bible actually says (or rather, origionally said)

if the bible is indeed written by the will of god (personally, i doubt it, what with me being an atheist and all, but...) then I doubt god would care about any edits or alterations humans had made to his word. he'd expect you to follow what he wrote down in the first place, with means the Old-school hardline. (and the old testament too)

which means hell for anyone who works on sunday, or wears mixed fabics, or doesn't pray often enough...

well, basically everyone, actually.

I prefer the more modern approch, but unless god changed his mind about how he judges people recently, (why would an omnipotent being do that?) then none of the changes "mere humans" have made, are in any way relevant.


if there is no afterlife, then it's a moot point, but if god is real, then like 95% of the people on earth will be in hell, so it's basically just going to be earth 2.0.

might as well see if we can get some air-con set up, bit of Wi-Fi, make the place liveable.
User avatar #11 to #7 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/20/2013) [-]
The Bible was inspired by God not physically written by him, which means that it was still influenced by the men who wrote it at the time. Times change and things that were relevant 2000 years ago are not necessarily relevant now so our understanding of what was written and and what God was truly saying need to adapt just as human beings have adapted. No one should take everything that is written in the Bible completely literally because that's not how it was intended to be used.
#13 to #11 - iamnuff (12/20/2013) [-]
pretty sure a large part of the bible is stuff that god son (who is also god?) directly said. (apparently)

also, two massive stone tablets carried by Moses, remember those? they were kind of a big deal?

just because god didn't write the book himself, it doesn't mean that the stuff in it wouldn't be his will. (can't believe I'm actually typing this... I feel the need to say "im an atheist though")

anyway. if god exists, and inspired the bible, then the rules in there are his rules, altering the book isn't going to alter how he judges people, anymore than ripping out the last page of a storybook is going to change the author's opinion of how the story ended.

Things that would have gotten you damned 1000 years ago, will still get you damned now, which means basically everyone who ever lived is damned. including most saints, and probably all of the popes (that "mixed fabrics" clause is going to **** over a lot of people)
User avatar #14 to #13 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/20/2013) [-]
The New Testament, the part of the Bible that focuses on Jesus, have a completely different tone than the Old Testament (where all those weird "laws" about mixed fabrics and other things come from). It focuses on love, repentance, and forgiveness, which is what Jesus taught throughout his life. Basically God had a change of heart about how he judged people and sacrificed himself (as Jesus) to essentially wipe clean the sins of mankind. This is what Christians believe, and although the Old Testament is still part of our Bible it is there more as a reminder of the origins of our faith because the Old Testament is the Torah, which is the sacred writing of Jewish people (Jesus was Jewish).

My main point is that your understanding of religion is too black and white and is probably one of the reasons why you have rejected religion. I'm not saying that my own understanding is perfect, because it isn't, but I have learned about it in an academic setting from 7th grade all the way through college and there are a lot things not apparent to those who don't study it.
#17 to #14 - iamnuff (12/21/2013) [-]
pretty sure jesus himself was quoting saying that he has no intention of revoking the old laws.

that "every jot and tittle" still applies.

religion is black and white.

either god exists or he doesn't, if he does, then either X gets you damned or it doesn't.

if god's the sort of person who changes his own rules at a moment's notice, without warning anyone or explaining anything, then we are all ****** anyway, so why bother?
User avatar #8 to #7 - poem (12/20/2013) [-]
wow.....
#9 to #8 - iamnuff (12/20/2013) [-]
what?

I don't want to be a downer, and i don't actually believe any religions are true, but if one was, then I don't see any god saying "well, the little huamns rewrote my holy book to be more "family friendly", so i guess I'd better change the criteria that i judge people's souls by"

User avatar #10 to #9 - poem (12/20/2013) [-]
no i like the comments that you are posting i just havent thought about it that way before
User avatar #4 to #1 - poem (12/20/2013) [-]
i like this comment
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