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#423346 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Picked this up browsing /v/, what's VGB's opinion?
User avatar #423487 to #423346 - sjakk (04/20/2013) [-]
bioshock dmc and tomb raider should atleast get bumped up once
#423568 to #423487 - lifetime (04/20/2013) [-]
lol. Bioshock is good but by no means great. Honestly I would say move Tomb Raider down one. And before you ask, no I haven't played any other Tomb Raider game.
User avatar #423495 to #423487 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
I'm so sick of people hating on the new DmC just because Dante looks a bit different, it was probably one of the smoothest playing hack-n-slash games made in a LONG time...
User avatar #423627 to #423495 - nathanbiggs (04/20/2013) [-]
If you honestly think the only criticism of the game is the look of Donte, then you have no idea what you're talking about
User avatar #423830 to #423627 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Yes yes, I know, there's no directional input or hard lock-on, and uprooting the origins of Vergil and Dante like that was a pretty hectic move, but it's a DAMN good game, one of the best day one purchases I've made in the last year.
User avatar #423854 to #423830 - nathanbiggs (04/20/2013) [-]
There's more than that as well
>Bloody Palace as DLC, with only one playable character
>No Styles
>Broken Style system
>Less difficult than previous games
>30 fps on consoles
>color coded enemies later on in the game
>fewer enemies on screen
>Combat overall is not nearly as deep as the previous games in the series
DmC is a legitimate downgrade from DMC4, and an unneeded reboot of the series. It deserves the spot of "Weak" on that list.
User avatar #423889 to #423854 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Oh, c'mon! It's FREE DLC....and there's no big commitment to Styles, why shit the bed over a change like that? Resident Evil went from top-down to 3PS, Fallout went from isometric rogue RPG to a first person shooter, aaaaand a Devil May Cry game came out without Styles, I feel like we should be living with it. Broken Style, Less difficult, and less deep combat are all opinion technically. And yes, color-coded enemies are mildly silly but how else would the weapon alignment system work? The only legitimate negative is the 30 fps thing, that does kind of suck but it's not utter ruination. Calling it a downgrade from DMC4 is being silly, it's not THAT bad and DMC2/4 are proof that the original team and canon has produced less-than-stellar entries, so it's not reeeaaally reasonable to make DmC adhere to such a rigorous pass/fail that an fps downgrade and some gameplay quirks commits it to the land of freaking Army of Two.
User avatar #423908 to #423889 - nathanbiggs (04/20/2013) [-]
Styles were a great addition in DMC3, and the style switching in DMC4 allowed for deep and varied gameplay on the fly, to remove them entirely is stupid. The style system is legitimately broken when you can spam the same moves and receive an SSS, especially on bosses. DmC added nothing to the game that DMC4 didn't already do better. Calling DMC4, the game with the best gameplay in the seris, less than stellar is silly. I'll say it again, DmC added nothing good to the series that wasn't already there in DMC4, so it is a downgrade.
User avatar #423921 to #423908 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Lack of innovations doesn't necessarily equal a downgrade, and there was a TON of innovations to gameplay between DMC4 and DmC, you just don't like them and call them problems. I think the issue is you care much more about the technical components of the game whereas as long as it plays fine and is intriguing and entertaining enough I could give less of a crap if the new DmC was turn-based or something nutty. We've got different criteria for a good game, is all..
User avatar #423930 to #423921 - nathanbiggs (04/20/2013) [-]
Honest question here, what did DmC innovate in terms of gameplay?
User avatar #423948 to #423930 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Well it's honestly going to be an opinion thing, what I like you probably do not;

The weapon switching is fantastic, if you want to talk about "deep and varied gameplay on the fly" consider the DOZEN weapons accessible at any moment without pausing or menus
Without a hard lock-on, it's easier to carry combos from one enemy to another; although you probably prefer the challenge of the older games, it's very satisfying to be able to cut through an entire wave with your dozen weapons without a single unnecessary move
It's got more personality than the prior games, I know that's opinion and you probably don't care but gothic comedic was getting exhausting and they managed to pull off something unique with DmC's vibe and pace
I like the removal of Styles, you rely more on selecting the right upgrades and BUILDING a play style, instead of picking one off a list
The story makes more sense and has less random, useless characters. Remember when Trish and Lady just fucking walked away in the original series and no one even cared?
Every weapon is different, which is something hack and slash games really struggle with. You usually get a "regular" weapon, a fast, weak one and a slow, heavy one. That's just three, and like I said, DmC pulls off more than a dozen, with entirely different movesets, combos, and playstyles
User avatar #423480 to #423346 - voltkills (04/20/2013) [-]
bioshock should be in GOTY tier, or great.
User avatar #423473 to #423346 - theracistpanda (04/20/2013) [-]
I haven't played any of these games yet, but I think that TWD deserves it's own tier below Objectively Bad.
User avatar #423479 to #423473 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Iiiii think Aliens Colonial Marines could probably chill out in Weak or maybe even Okay, to be honest...it's not horrible!
User avatar #423486 to #423479 - theracistpanda (04/20/2013) [-]
Haven't played it.
#423399 to #423346 - anonymous (04/20/2013) [-]
ink we should wait until at least october before we can even start this silly discussion.
#423405 to #423399 - anonymous (04/20/2013) [-]
ink=i think
User avatar #423392 to #423346 - alexanderburns (04/20/2013) [-]
My opinion is that everyone should stop caring about everyone else's opinions and that anyone who thinks that GOTY means anything is sadly mistaken.

But the first statement cancels itself out.
User avatar #423409 to #423392 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
They can just write "GOTY" on a box to sell copies, it literally does mean nothing, yeah.
User avatar #423384 to #423346 - yeorgh ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
Revengeance is too high.
User avatar #423467 to #423384 - TheAnonLord (04/20/2013) [-]
I agree it should be at least in Good
User avatar #423475 to #423467 - yeorgh ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
Yup.
User avatar #423478 to #423475 - TheAnonLord (04/20/2013) [-]
It's a good game though IMO
User avatar #423484 to #423478 - yeorgh ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
Exactly, it's good, not great, and definitely not GOTY
#423390 to #423384 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Have any of you people even PLAYED Metal Gear Rising?
#423620 to #423390 - ohokay (04/20/2013) [-]
I agree with you entirely, my friends give it a lot of shit and they haven't even attempted playing it... they don't even know the epicness that is Jetstream Sam
I agree with you entirely, my friends give it a lot of shit and they haven't even attempted playing it... they don't even know the epicness that is Jetstream Sam
#423819 to #423620 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
I can't stand people who won't give games EVERYONE is raving about a chance, and just bash 'em instead. Like, example, I'm not too big on Japanese stuff, but I at least played a few hours of Persona before trying to discuss it..
I can't stand people who won't give games EVERYONE is raving about a chance, and just bash 'em instead. Like, example, I'm not too big on Japanese stuff, but I at least played a few hours of Persona before trying to discuss it..
#424241 to #423819 - ohokay (04/20/2013) [-]
Someone open minded who is also into games.. holy shit... my nigga
Someone open minded who is also into games.. holy shit... my nigga
User avatar #423396 to #423390 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
Yes. It's good, but nowhere near GOTY standard.
User avatar #423395 to #423390 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
Just because it's your favorite game or something doesn't mean it's the best game this gen
User avatar #423403 to #423395 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
You also don't seem to get hyperbole. I don't think ANYONE thinks MGR is the best game ever made, I'm just excited about it because it was pretty damn cool.
User avatar #423411 to #423403 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
"hey this game is pretty cool. Let's give it GOTY."
No.
User avatar #423408 to #423403 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
hurr triple goty hurr
User avatar #423402 to #423395 - alexanderburns (04/20/2013) [-]
But what is best is an opinion.
User avatar #423393 to #423390 - yeorgh ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
I did, beat the chick with the tons of arms, killed those things in the sewers and it got awfully repetitive and never bothered with it again.
User avatar #423382 to #423346 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
/v/ has bad opinions
User avatar #423385 to #423382 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
4chan in general from what I've seen.
User avatar #423380 to #423346 - thedasher (04/20/2013) [-]
Looks about right, but I played Anarchy Reigns and it deserves slightly more credit

Lego City undercover seems pretty out of place too
User avatar #423464 to #423380 - ghostninja (04/20/2013) [-]
I have anarchy riegn and wish the multiplayer wasnt dead

to bad every review sad it sucked even thou it was NO where near as bad as they said it was
User avatar #423383 to #423380 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
I heard Anarchy Reigns had the worst camera ever, and some Youtube footage backed it up...is it really an issue though? I'd like to like it.
User avatar #423397 to #423383 - thedasher (04/20/2013) [-]
I personally didn't find much wrong with the camera, it was the constant chaos in multiplayer that made it difficult to tell what the fuck is going on

It felt like a nice take on the fighting genre, probably not a game for everyone, but pulling off all those combos is always satisfying
User avatar #423415 to #423397 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Iiiit's like, 20 bucks at EB Games, I may as well get it later today, yeah

As for Lego City, you're right what the fuck, is that a joke placement?
#423374 to #423346 - anonymous (04/20/2013) [-]
not enough battletoads
User avatar #423368 to #423346 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
Tomb Raider down to weak tier, Revengence down to Great Tier and Naruto to Okay or Weak Tier
User avatar #423373 to #423368 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Revengeance* up* to triple GOTY*
User avatar #423379 to #423373 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
Definitely not. It's just great tier; could argue for good tier.
User avatar #423377 to #423373 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
yeah no.
#423387 to #423377 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
I've honestly never seen you do anything useful on any board ever, I'd be more polite but all you do is disagree with people and condescend their enthusiasm
I've honestly never seen you do anything useful on any board ever, I'd be more polite but all you do is disagree with people and condescend their enthusiasm
User avatar #423400 to #423387 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
Oh and that's called difference in opinion.
User avatar #423398 to #423387 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
He's on of the most useful people on this board you nob.
#423414 to #423398 - anonymous (04/20/2013) [-]
No, _ you're_ one of the most useful people on this board you nob.

Bitch. How do you like it?
#423417 to #423414 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
That makes me have a flutter deep down inside.   
I like it.   
Thanks.
That makes me have a flutter deep down inside.
I like it.
Thanks.
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User avatar #423391 to #423387 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
also maybe you should get some glasses then
User avatar #423388 to #423387 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
potassiumdichlorade
User avatar #423362 to #423346 - thedudeistheman ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
Blood Dragon isn't even out yet, so to say a game is GOTY before it's even out is bad.

Tomb Raider could be at least good tier. From what I've heard of the game, it could also be great tier.

There have also been other great games that deserve to be on here.
User avatar #423364 to #423362 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
You MUST have heard about the Blood Dragon leak, right? And which games are missing?
User avatar #423649 to #423364 - thedudeistheman ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
I have not heard about the Blood Dragon leak. I'm way behind on gaming news. Not releases, but news.

Also, I've been mixing release dates up, so it turns out some games that came out late last year are games I've been confusing for this year.
User avatar #423805 to #423649 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Essentially, a group of Russian hackers discovered an exploit in the uPlay system that allowed them to get access to every game available on the service, and they discovered that Blood Dragon was on the list. It's even on TPB now....but yeah, I'd like to see a chart for 2012?
User avatar #424019 to #423805 - thedudeistheman ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
I don't think that exists unless someone made one.
User avatar #423363 to #423362 - thedudeistheman ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
I also hear Infinite is worthy of at least great tier, if not GOTY.
User avatar #423367 to #423363 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
To be fair, you JUST said it's bad to rank a game before even experiencing it, aaaand then you said you "hear" stuff about Infinite, =P
User avatar #423369 to #423367 - thedudeistheman ONLINE (04/20/2013) [-]
I did say that, but at least Infinite has been reviewed and out for some time.
User avatar #423372 to #423369 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Yeah, I suppose. My assumption is that it's BECAUSE of the leak, that Blood Dragon is in GOTY, they're all just amp'd to get a free quality game =P
User avatar #423355 to #423346 - sergejkarkarov (04/20/2013) [-]
Do not agree.
#423359 to #423355 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Why just say "Do not agree.", Jameshaich actually supplied some reasons and etc., if you're on a board for discussions, wouldn't it make sense to promote....discussions?
User avatar #423407 to #423359 - thedasher (04/20/2013) [-]
Nah man, discussions mean displaying your own personal opinion on things, and with the shitty voting system, the more obscure opinions just get voted to hell and ignored
User avatar #423413 to #423407 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
You're kind of right
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User avatar #423350 to #423346 - nosurprise (04/20/2013) [-]
do not agree
#423360 to #423350 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
What changes would you make?
User avatar #423365 to #423360 - nosurprise (04/20/2013) [-]
Reveangence & Blood Dragon shouldn't be GOTY
GoW Ascension and Tomb Raider should be at least good
Infinite should be Great or GOTY
Simcity shouldn't be bad tier
User avatar #423371 to #423365 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
SimCity is in Bad because of the server issues, I'm assuming this is a month~ old
Infinite is okay in Good/Great, I love it but it's not changing my life or anything
GoW was bad compared to the original 3, but yes, Tomb Raider should be (much) higher
Revengeance should be fucking triple GOTY, fucking best game of this gen shit
Aaaaand yeah Blood Dragon let's get real guys, I'm assuming they're just pumped 'cause leak
User avatar #423381 to #423371 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
revengeance wasn't that great.
#423401 to #423381 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
You didn't even PLAY it! You probably think Infinite should be GOTY and want to know where League is on the list!
You didn't even PLAY it! You probably think Infinite should be GOTY and want to know where League is on the list!
User avatar #423406 to #423401 - Timmietim (04/20/2013) [-]
You are a fucking retard.
Also i have a ps3 right here
Please stop being fucking retarded
User avatar #423376 to #423371 - nosurprise (04/20/2013) [-]
Opinions, opinions
User avatar #423349 to #423346 - Jameshaich (04/20/2013) [-]
Bioshock Infinite should be in GOTY. DmC should be okay teir.
Revengance should be great. was really good but nowhere near GOTY

User avatar #423370 to #423349 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
Infinite should not be GOTY.
User avatar #423386 to #423370 - Jameshaich (04/20/2013) [-]
Everyone loves the game. it has to be one of the most praised games i have seen in a while.
User avatar #423389 to #423386 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
It's very overrated.
I think /v/ have got it in a good position. It's not worthy of a GOTY.
User avatar #423410 to #423389 - Jameshaich (04/20/2013) [-]
It's overrated for a reason... People don't just talk about games for no reason. it's why Revengance isn't talked about as much as Bioshock. Both great, but Bioshock is clearly better appreciated
User avatar #423412 to #423410 - sluge (04/20/2013) [-]
Yeah, it was a good game. But like MGR:R, not GOTY standard in my opinion. But great tier/good tier is a good position.
#423357 to #423349 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Revengeance not GOTY? Come on. Although you are right, more love for the DmC reboot is needed and Bioshock Infinite is worth at LEAST "Great"
User avatar #423358 to #423357 - Jameshaich (04/20/2013) [-]
Revenagance was a really good game. I loved it to bits.
But it was really short. just not GOTY material imo. not played the dlc though so i should try it before i talk
User avatar #423361 to #423358 - VaultTechy (04/20/2013) [-]
Bought DLC, haven't found time to play it....although yes, the length is it's only REAL downfall, I can speedrun lower difficulties in roughly the amount of time it takes to watch the 3rd LOTR (got about 40-50 hours logged on MGR's core game though)
User avatar #423378 to #423361 - Jameshaich (04/20/2013) [-]
And the last boss is increadibly cheap. i spent ages getting through the game on the hardest difficulty and the last boss takes the piss. one hit kills just ruins it
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