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#237 - maijuriina (09/08/2013) [-]
In the movie it is unclear why Denethor tells Gandalf that he doesn't know all the things he has seen from the high top of his kingdom. Denethor has one of the palantiri in his halls and he has been using it long before Saruman started using his - his original purpose was to acquire wisdom over Gandalf whom he despised. As the War of the Ring is drawing near he has seen the future through it as Sauron hopes it to be. Denethor did not turn to evil but was consumed by despair. You can only use the palantiri if you have the strength and knowledge to use it and over the decades Denethor had gained that skill both through the information and books held in Gondor and by using it, but eventually the possible outcome of the war it showed to him broke him.
Gandalf, also known as Olórin, is said to be the adviser of Irmo or Lórien (named after the place where Irmo dwelled). Irmo is the vala of dreams and visions and in the time when he still took no part in the deeds of Middle-Earth but only searched the hearts of those who hated Sauron, he would walk among elves, invisible, and give them sudden unexplainable visions of all the beautiful things they could create for Arda.
There is also a small fragment of a story of Queen Berúthiel. She was the mean, solitary and loveless wife of the 12th king of Gondor (Tarannon) and she hated the sea, all things that were made and she hated colours and only wore black and silver. Her garden was full of dreadful statues. Queen Berúthiel had nine black cats and one white and they were her slaves whom she talked to and ordered to spy on the people of Gondor to find out their darkest secrets. She bullied them and read their minds and the people of Gondor were afraid of them and cursed them when they saw them. Finally her name was erased of the books of kings and King Tarannon sent her alone on a ship to be carried away by the North wind. The ship could be seen at night in the moonlight, with a cat on its mast and one on its rear.
#157 - hapy (09/08/2013) [-]
before sauron served melkor (morgoth) he served the "god angel" valar aule, who was one of the top 3 vala. aule was basically the earth vala. smithing, rocks, mountains, all that jazz. he also created dwarves, which werent part of the original "plan" that iluvitar "god" had in mind. originally the dwarves would only move when aule thought about it. kinda like puppets. when god god saw that he was kind of upset and asked him why he would make such things. aule explained that he wanted to create things that would enjoy the world and live. so iluvitar gave them life and told him that he basically had to wait until they all woke up. his wife was the vala lady of basically plant life, and she was pretty pissed because he kept telling her how his dwarves would chop down her forests lol. she went and complained, so i think it was iluvitar that made the ents... they were made to protect the trees from everyone lol.... mmmmm maiar and vala are the same kind of being, they just use different names to clarify the gap in power. sauron was originally good. his role in creation, or like driving force is to bring order. he joined melkor/morgoth because he saw the opportunity to create order form the chaos that melkor created throughout the world... originally the earth had a definitive west. like the world stopped. after a couple horrible events, iluvitar made it so that unless you rode a special elf ship you could never reach the west island where the "god angels"/vala lived... elf souls arent allowed to leave earth until the end of time. they are kept in the halls of mandos. basically no one knows what happens to humans, its like one of the last great mysteries. sauron can never take on the pretty form of himself because, when iluvitar cast an island called numenor (i believe) into "the void", for worshipping melkor and turning into a horrible place because of saurons basically satan/melkor religion, his body was taken along with it. melkor created dragons. out of letter space.
#70 - kingofthetrolls (09/08/2013) [-]
He also was in command of an island taken over from the elves, forget the full name but basically it was called wolf island. Sauron took many forms, and he could take the shape of a massive wolf and he commanded many others. When Beren (human) and Luthien (elf) took a silmaril (made by Feanor) they went to this island and passed through it and passed through Sauron's grasp.
#87 - newforomador (09/08/2013) [-]
Another fact, Gandalf, Radagast, Sarumon, and the two Blue wizards that were never seen are all pretty much immortal unless they are killed in battle. They were sent to Middle-Earth by the Valar from Valinor, which is where the Elves go and the characters at the end of the movies. Also, all that badassery you see from Gandalf? That isn't even his final form. He is forbidden by the Valar to use his full power on Middle-Earth, and is only supposed to guide the races on the proper path.
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