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#373 - meganinja (07/19/2014) [-]
In a ground war, the Americans will have casualties roughly equal to Russia's. The USA will have air superiority to compensate for Russia's defensive advantage. The USA has the ability to hit Russia from the West, East, North, and South with assistance from allies. Russia, if they could even reach America, could only attack from the East and West, unless it wants to also invade Canada or Mexico, because neither would actually allow Russian forces to go through if USA and Russia were at war. So while Russia's fighting off American forces approaching Volovograd being supplied by Turkey, forces approaching Moscow being supplied by Europe, and already besieging/taken St. Petersburg from Scandinavia, You've already lost Vladivostock and Americans are running rampant through the Eastern part of your country unchecked. The USA can successfully blockade Russia from every direction but from the South. And who would help Russia? Certainly not China. China's loving all the business that the USA gives it, and China's main policies in recent years have reflected a stance on isolationism, and a stance of economic growth over all else. China would be busy selling war materials to the USA for big bucks, and they'd be loving it. No other country would either be willing or able to send supplies over except for maybe Iran. Most of your population is in the West, near Europe. Once Moscow is gone it's over. GG. But America treats their enemies better than Russia does. America will actually give the land back to Russia, maybe a few chunks to neighboring countries though. They'll probably even help Russia build up an economy too afterwards, so you should be grateful after you lose.
#426 - zielscheibe (07/19/2014) [-]
Yet we have heard of same things from Nazi Germany 1941
> Russia so weak - it's military is not good enough no support
> once we reach Moskau it is all over , we are back home before christmas.
> Russias economy is down and we have way better income
> ... 1945 , Red army is taking Berlin after burning down all our stuff, dreams and hopes- we did nazi that coming mein Führer - End of story
U.S. of A would have good of chances if not for all the war it already is of doing around all the world. If you think they have the power of doings a full out war with Russia whilst fighting half of the arab world and beeing *hated* by almost every other nation + beeing of highest of depts in history of U.S. of A .
Dont think everything is of going to be as you have stated towarish. And dont count to much on turky just of saying.
#427 - meganinja (07/19/2014) [-]
Yeah but Germany had half of the Soviet's population, not twice of it's population, and was also fighting on many other fronts. The USA is in a position against Russia like the Soviet Union was against Germany, except if the Soviet Union were the richer country. The USA's commitments to its current wars are negligible, and the only valid points you've made are the war won't actually be over when Moscow's taken, and that maybe some countries wouldn't be willing to help out, even as just a staging base. But a lot of countries hate Russia even more and if America promises some land afterwards I'm sure they'd help out.
#429 - zielscheibe (07/19/2014) [-]
But all the deals that are offered by the U.S. of A could be offered by Russia as well if it comes down to land and power.
If you think that of fightings in the middle east or others of nations is negligible ... well thats good for the motherland.
Ahhh i am running out of russian ideas you brought me to the limit of my inner Ivan dude . Still you brought up some good points and ideas - Will have to think about those in time. For the current situation in Ukraine or Israel give me some stuff to think about.
So have a nice day mate , was fun talking to a well educated american that knows his shit if it comes down to it.
#350 - meganinja (07/19/2014) [-]
Lol. Lemme hit ya with a few facts, champ.
1) You defeated Germany with superior numbers. That was the number 1 asset that Russia brought to the war. The only other good thing about Russia was once you got the T34 it was actually a good tank. You were inferior in all other ways to the Germans, but because your forces were almost 3 times larger than all of what Germany had, and only on one front compared to Germany's multiple fronts, you were able to win your front even after MASSIVE casualties. Infact, the Soviet Union lost more soldiers than Germany even had deployed during the entire war. And it's not like Germany lost all their soldiers to the USSR either. German losses came from multiple fronts at multiple times, and many of those deployed went home without being killed OR injured.
2) Russia has 143 million people. The USA has 314 million. If you can't do math that's about 2.2 people the USA has for every 1 that Russia has. The USSR's population in 1940 was about 170 million, which varies depending on the source you use, and Germany's population was about 80 million in 1939 according to an official Nazi census. Again using the math that's about 2.1 million Soviets for each German. So the numerical advantage the Soviets had over the Germans is less than what the USA has over Russia, although not by very much.
3) Russia's GDP is about $2 trillion. USA's GDP is about $16 trillion. The USA's economy is 8 times stronger, with a larger industrial base than Russia has. The USA for the most part has the better tech, and better means of producing it, although I wouldn't go as far to say the difference is similar to that between USSR and Germany during WWII, so it's slightly less of a factor, but it still is one to some extent. In ground combat Russian troops are probably on equal or near equal terms with the Americans, but in Air combat the USA takes the cake easily. Russia has good planes but the USA has many, many more.
#428 - zielscheibe (07/19/2014) [-]
1) So what it worked and it will of work again. Will of people of the Motherland is 100 times as strong as of softened and sometimes very overwight citizen of U.S. of A.
2) If child cant survive the cold winters of mother russia and some starving times or life giving him tough shit - it aint good enough to be of russian class. That is why U.S. of A citizen cant compare to slavic people.
And do not of forgett that there are plenty of russians all around europe - they will answer the call of the Rodina if times is of need.
3) This is of bad thinking. All this point is of making is that you think that money does count so big in worst of happenings. Leaving out the fact that U.S. of A 's economy is more broken than the moral code of the high buisness man in charge.
If in need - Mother Russia will rebuild tanks out of old pans well welded together.
Is of thinking like the T 34 - it does not need much money or extra suffs it just needs to kill the enemy's of the motherland.
Nice of day Towarisch
But first and foremost comrade ! You have been mislead all along.
I am not of russian blood towarisch - And all i just stated is to my pure amusement and the sicker kicks of it.
But hey to be honest - As a German - Dont fuck with Russia it would be bloody messy and nobody will win a damn thing if we are done destroying ourselfs.
My bet would be on Russia but it would be a close call mate. Yet i know how russians fight and are - they are just a nick harder if it comes to taking shit.
Yet i have served with US- Soldiers in the past and i do not doubt the will to fight or the level on wich they operate.
So cheers mate
#430 - meganinja (07/19/2014) [-]
I don't think the will of the people is going to keep somebody alive after getting hit by a bomb. Face it, Russia isn't as strong as the USSR was. Unless it comes down to exhanging nukes, Russia will lose, or at least not win. And if nukes are used, Russia and the USA will become total nuclear wastelands.
#431 - zielscheibe (07/19/2014) [-]
Modern Russia is ... well i guess 2/3 or 50 % as strong as the soviet union was .
But i think the will of the russian people should be taken into count
I mean - my great grandfather was serving on the eastern front ( and others of my family too ) And they all told us that it was amazing or stunning how strong the russian people held against them no matter what happened or what little they had left. You just could not knock them down hard enough to make them stay down for long.
And they had to take a lot of shit back than - Sure the Soviet Union was way bigger and it was other times - yet as i went trough russia on my travels it is still a strong will inside the hearts of those people . Most of them nice and friendly folks - but tough as shit if they need to be.
So lets hope it wont turn out to be a worst case thing - I fear a great deal of europe would be the first place to kick the bucket in a clasch of the two titans USA and Russia
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