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|#23 - Typical British man making Loads of money Probably [+] (4 new replies)||01/13/2016 on Farming||+54|
#38 - anon (01/13/2016) [-]
British farmers hardly make a profit, just like super-banks put an end to smaller local banks, the same thing's happening to small farms, big farm companies buy up all the land and such, government subsidies don't really help. Small farmers make more money but just basically renting their own land to the super farms
#59 - Jowi (01/13/2016) [-]
I don't know if you have any evidence to back these claims Anon but I live in rural Wales and have lived in similar areas of Scotland, England and Ireland and I have no experience of what you're saying.
"Super farms" make up a very small % of agricultural land use in Britain because any large farming company would probably have an intensive farming based business eg battery farms, poly tunnels etc to get a higher yield from small areas of land.
Where I've lived almost all of the farms are landholdings that have been passed down by the generations and a small number of them are tenanted farms (tenanted farms could be what you mean where landowners of large estates for example the Queen with her Duchy of Lancaster rent out portions of their lands for farmers to work a couple of acres as some of these estates cover hundreds of miles.
On top of this subsidies make a MASSIVE difference to farms in the UK. Currently UK farms recieve about £3bn in subsidies overall, not only are they given money to mechanise their farms by the EU but they are paid to produce certain crops/meat/dairy and then allowed to sell those crops/meat/dairy and keep the profits. They are allowed to grow crops based on a dynamic pricing system where the EU sets a certain price for whatever and then everyone grows whatever will make the most from said susidies, said crop is over-produced and leads to huge EU reserve sheds of rotting wheat like we've seen in the.
I know there is an argument that the system is at fault which is totally true but farmers who makes shit tons from this, but for the tax payer who indirectly pays for this. Hell farmers even make money from allow their fields to turn back into "Wildlife sanctuaries" where all they have to is leave the field untouched. Small farms are literally kept afloat by these wasteful subsidies
Farmers also don't have to adhere to certain building practices and are looked on favourably in for planning permission (certain buildings they can construct can be done without any permission at all), farmers abuse the rights of way they have on their land by blocking them because in their eyes the lands is theirs. Not to mention the power that the National Farmers Union has as a lobbying force allowing them to force on us the Badger Cull or basically undermining the fox hunting laws
Not to mention agricultural land is increasing in prices faster than land in Mayfair in London. These shit small farmers who have barely added anything of value to the economy and have been huge drains of money are then allowed to sell the land that we have helped them keep and the machinery we gave them with a bow ribbon wrapped around it as well and keep all of the profits.
TL;DR I think the EU serves a great purpose but the subsidies practices are fucking ridiculous and painting the small farmer as a peasant who doesn't do well with his lot in life is ridiculous. They're paid to do very little and then are paid again for it.
Any business that is as unsuccessful and as wasteful as agriculture is in the UK would have been bought out or bankrupted years ago and would have been replaced by a bigger form of the same thing. Why should farms be any different?
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