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#15 - alright ill go check out Deux Ex. heh I did buy revoluti… 2 hours ago on Fantasy Wallpapers 0
#13 - aiight thanks, soz, would have* or would've is better i think …  [+] (2 new replies) 2 hours ago on Fantasy Wallpapers 0
#14 - MDrDeathC (2 hours ago) [-]
Absolutely. There's a lot of rebalanced and remastered versions of Deus Ex floating around. The old one, I mean. Human Revolution is pretty great, too. I would, however, recommend saving that one for last. Being the latest, it's up to the highest standard of controls, voice acting, etc. Deus Ex was first released when such things were in their relative infancy and it shows.

Orwell's books are universally lauded as being the epitome of cyberpunk for a number of reasons. There's a TON of books and movies dating back to like, 1960.

Just remember, the story needs to be about the characters. Don't let the book you write become "cyberpunk: the adventure." Star Wars, for example, isn't lolspacestuff. It's an archetypical chosen one, good vs evil story that would've been fitting if adapted to any setting. It absolutely MUST be driven by the characters and who they are, what they become. Make sure you understand the characters, try imagining talking to them and such things and filling out character sheets based on them, taking personality tests like the one where the results are INTP, INFJ etc as though you're the character. It can help you get insight into not only who the character is but WHY.

Remember also to entice the reader. Things shouldn't always be blatant and obvious, allow the reader to infer and consider. They've got to be engaged so that they lose their sense of self. Not everything needs to be said but everything you want the reader to know should be implied in some way at least. Things like rhetoric and rhetorical questions are invaluable for it.

Louis L'Amour is great at writing the book from the first person view and having the narrative actively be affected by the narrator. Their habits, mannerisms, tendencies, etc all make a difference in things as minuscule as where the narrator's eyes are drawn and in what order when meeting someone to whether or not they repeat themselves (through narrative or through considering his spoken words carefully before actually engaging in dialogue.) A more learned character, for example, will typically use more complex and varied speech, describing things occasionally in a verbose manner rather than "getting to the point."
User avatar #15 - zenler (2 hours ago) [-]
alright ill go check out Deux Ex. heh I did buy revolution but gave it to a mate to activate his steam, he hasn't played it yet.


I guess I find the 'cyberpunk' genre compelling because as boring as serial experiments lain was, i finished and enjoyed it. same with ergo proxy. it's prob my fav anime because of its themes, characters and the design aesthetic

Yeah I get ya, how a character can influence how the story is told in its perspective.

Just a few things worry me about developing characters/narrative etc:

Its just how a character can seem to share traits of something you've watched/read without you intending it. And focusing on an idea when another could be better.



#35 - damn neat idea bruh 2 hours ago on Interesting drug finds 0
#9 - ahk, thanks for the thorough response i would of tho…  [+] (4 new replies) 2 hours ago on Fantasy Wallpapers 0
#10 - MDrDeathC (2 hours ago) [-]
Read, watch, and play some of the genre and get a feel for the style. Remember to handle the characters first and foremost, don't let the setting become the point of the story. Also, try to never ever say "would of" again.

I'd recommend playing some of the Deus Ex games, that's the most accessible way to get into it.
User avatar #13 - zenler (2 hours ago) [-]
aiight thanks, soz, would have* or would've is better i think google search

#14 - MDrDeathC (2 hours ago) [-]
Absolutely. There's a lot of rebalanced and remastered versions of Deus Ex floating around. The old one, I mean. Human Revolution is pretty great, too. I would, however, recommend saving that one for last. Being the latest, it's up to the highest standard of controls, voice acting, etc. Deus Ex was first released when such things were in their relative infancy and it shows.

Orwell's books are universally lauded as being the epitome of cyberpunk for a number of reasons. There's a TON of books and movies dating back to like, 1960.

Just remember, the story needs to be about the characters. Don't let the book you write become "cyberpunk: the adventure." Star Wars, for example, isn't lolspacestuff. It's an archetypical chosen one, good vs evil story that would've been fitting if adapted to any setting. It absolutely MUST be driven by the characters and who they are, what they become. Make sure you understand the characters, try imagining talking to them and such things and filling out character sheets based on them, taking personality tests like the one where the results are INTP, INFJ etc as though you're the character. It can help you get insight into not only who the character is but WHY.

Remember also to entice the reader. Things shouldn't always be blatant and obvious, allow the reader to infer and consider. They've got to be engaged so that they lose their sense of self. Not everything needs to be said but everything you want the reader to know should be implied in some way at least. Things like rhetoric and rhetorical questions are invaluable for it.

Louis L'Amour is great at writing the book from the first person view and having the narrative actively be affected by the narrator. Their habits, mannerisms, tendencies, etc all make a difference in things as minuscule as where the narrator's eyes are drawn and in what order when meeting someone to whether or not they repeat themselves (through narrative or through considering his spoken words carefully before actually engaging in dialogue.) A more learned character, for example, will typically use more complex and varied speech, describing things occasionally in a verbose manner rather than "getting to the point."
User avatar #15 - zenler (2 hours ago) [-]
alright ill go check out Deux Ex. heh I did buy revolution but gave it to a mate to activate his steam, he hasn't played it yet.


I guess I find the 'cyberpunk' genre compelling because as boring as serial experiments lain was, i finished and enjoyed it. same with ergo proxy. it's prob my fav anime because of its themes, characters and the design aesthetic

Yeah I get ya, how a character can influence how the story is told in its perspective.

Just a few things worry me about developing characters/narrative etc:

Its just how a character can seem to share traits of something you've watched/read without you intending it. And focusing on an idea when another could be better.



#5 - whats the difference soz for my dumbness  [+] (6 new replies) 5 hours ago on Fantasy Wallpapers 0
#7 - MDrDeathC (3 hours ago) [-]
The predominant fuel source. It's in the name. The -punk genre is mostly about a dominance of a technology style and how it either changes society or how society doesn't change at all, merely adapting and preserving its corrupt nature.

Generally speaking, cyberpunk is the most likely to go for the "everyone in power is a cunt and everyone else is a promotion away from the same and until then are the people in powers' bitch" with the protagonist rebelling against it in some form because of the general consensus (glaringly obviously false) that technology will somehow lead to a Shangri-la type existence worldwide.

The other -punk genres tend to almost be an exercise in thought, often employing tropes from retro-futurism, and have things like utilizing steam power predominantly due to noone having ever developed the microprocessor etc. Expect to see Victorian-era style and architecture, archaic English structure and accents, and big fat cathodes and vacuum tubes in addition to methods of travel that are extremely shit in comparison such as lighter-than-air-craft (hot air balloons and blimps for instance) which will invariably be a Chekhov's Gun.

It's genres RIFE with the ability to write in just about anything as you want it without breaking the immersion of the reader because the reader must first come to terms with the reality of that world. If you introduce the justification for something well before the event itself, the event itself won't be questioned. Since it's a parallel universe type deal with no association to the real world at all, a lot of things can get slipped by utilizing the reader's willing suspension of disbelief.
User avatar #9 - zenler (2 hours ago) [-]
ahk, thanks for the thorough response

i would of thought diesel punk be ~industrial age stuff age stuff, reaching post 2nd world war. or just steampunk but instead of steam, the primary fuel is combustion of diesel.


anywho im attempting to develop a cyberpunk world for a novel perhaps, i got no idea what im doing but, should i put an emphasis on world building or focus on the plot
#10 - MDrDeathC (2 hours ago) [-]
Read, watch, and play some of the genre and get a feel for the style. Remember to handle the characters first and foremost, don't let the setting become the point of the story. Also, try to never ever say "would of" again.

I'd recommend playing some of the Deus Ex games, that's the most accessible way to get into it.
User avatar #13 - zenler (2 hours ago) [-]
aiight thanks, soz, would have* or would've is better i think google search

#14 - MDrDeathC (2 hours ago) [-]
Absolutely. There's a lot of rebalanced and remastered versions of Deus Ex floating around. The old one, I mean. Human Revolution is pretty great, too. I would, however, recommend saving that one for last. Being the latest, it's up to the highest standard of controls, voice acting, etc. Deus Ex was first released when such things were in their relative infancy and it shows.

Orwell's books are universally lauded as being the epitome of cyberpunk for a number of reasons. There's a TON of books and movies dating back to like, 1960.

Just remember, the story needs to be about the characters. Don't let the book you write become "cyberpunk: the adventure." Star Wars, for example, isn't lolspacestuff. It's an archetypical chosen one, good vs evil story that would've been fitting if adapted to any setting. It absolutely MUST be driven by the characters and who they are, what they become. Make sure you understand the characters, try imagining talking to them and such things and filling out character sheets based on them, taking personality tests like the one where the results are INTP, INFJ etc as though you're the character. It can help you get insight into not only who the character is but WHY.

Remember also to entice the reader. Things shouldn't always be blatant and obvious, allow the reader to infer and consider. They've got to be engaged so that they lose their sense of self. Not everything needs to be said but everything you want the reader to know should be implied in some way at least. Things like rhetoric and rhetorical questions are invaluable for it.

Louis L'Amour is great at writing the book from the first person view and having the narrative actively be affected by the narrator. Their habits, mannerisms, tendencies, etc all make a difference in things as minuscule as where the narrator's eyes are drawn and in what order when meeting someone to whether or not they repeat themselves (through narrative or through considering his spoken words carefully before actually engaging in dialogue.) A more learned character, for example, will typically use more complex and varied speech, describing things occasionally in a verbose manner rather than "getting to the point."
User avatar #15 - zenler (2 hours ago) [-]
alright ill go check out Deux Ex. heh I did buy revolution but gave it to a mate to activate his steam, he hasn't played it yet.


I guess I find the 'cyberpunk' genre compelling because as boring as serial experiments lain was, i finished and enjoyed it. same with ergo proxy. it's prob my fav anime because of its themes, characters and the design aesthetic

Yeah I get ya, how a character can influence how the story is told in its perspective.

Just a few things worry me about developing characters/narrative etc:

Its just how a character can seem to share traits of something you've watched/read without you intending it. And focusing on an idea when another could be better.



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#136 - maybe try dark souls 2 it ran @ 30fps solid on a rand…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/24/2015 on PC Gaming Compilation +2
#352 - myjunk (05/24/2015) [-]
I haven't even tried the first Dark souls because I heard loading takes forever and since you die all the time I think I'd go crazy if I have to wait 10 minutes to try again
User avatar #544 - hydraetis (05/24/2015) [-]
Sure, if you call like 5-10 seconds max when loading "forever"
User avatar #305 - fuckyouthatswhy (05/24/2015) [-]
I couldn't run Dark souls 2 @ 30 fps on my I5 4200U, R7 M265 laptop on minimal settings. Good thing I have a desktop though

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#9 - hellscythe (02/14/2015) [-]
happy valentines day darling
#10 to #9 - zenler (02/14/2015) [-]
y-you too..
#11 to #10 - hellscythe (02/14/2015) [-]
as long as you say no homo its fine
#12 to #11 - zenler (02/15/2015) [-]
no h-homos
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no idea lol
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