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#157 - shadeymuffin (09/12/2014) [-]
As a yes supporter I'll go ahead and give you my political views instead of the economic views that most seem to be sharing. Although I would like to quickly point out that proper research into the matter suggests that an independent Scotland would be economically sound. Anyway onto the matter of the politics. Very simply the Scottish nation is currently run by the Westminster govt, yes we have our own independent govt but it has very little actual power and can't change the important things like prices and such. Also because of our relatively small population it is very difficult for us to vote in a party that would best suit our needs, for example the majority of Scotland voted for labour in the last general election as it y'know, was the only choice that didn't fuck us up the ass, but instead we still get landed with a coalition of complete morons because the majority of England voted for them. So y'know an independent Scotland can actually govern it'self in relation to what the people want. Also I just want to make it clear that we in no way hate the English (despite what David Cameron seems to think), we in fact only hate the Westminster govt.
#79 - redblackstar (09/12/2014) [-]
#48 - odonnell (09/12/2014) [-]
Its split pretty much 50/50. (It varies from no vote being ahead and yes being ahead) Bare in mind that these are smaller polls of around 3000 people max and probably have no real representation to the country as a whole as it depends where you get the people to ask (eg, go to a place filled with poverty and the yes vote will be substantially higher, go to a place where the living quality is much higher and it'll be more of a no vote
Benefits of Indy Scotland
>A fairer democracy (You can't deny the fact that there are more people in London alone than the whole of Scotland, look any political map and you'll see the difference in voting between Scottish and English regions)
>Full tax powers
>All income goes to Scotland and isn't shared with the rest of the UK
Cons of Indy Scotland
>Nobody knows what it'll be like exactly, its an uncertainty, things could get worse, things could get better, its pretty much a stab in the dark
>We'd have to set up military
Depending on how you think you could debate about not having the pound and not having the EU. But for me both the EU and the pound are shit anyway. EFTA is a much better option (Why stop giving power to someone 500 miles away just to give it to someone 1000 miles away (Its also stupid to want to stop funding a country your part of then decide to fund other random countries like Greece when they fuck up)), a Scottish currency would work better (Its stupid to ask for more tax powers then leave the economy in the hands of English banks (We've already seen how well that works out, about 13 times (And thats just recorded since 1812)).
Tl;dr: The only reason against independence is uncertainty, no-one knows for sure what it will be like
The main reason for independence is that we've got a 300 year track record with the Union and its been pretty shit.
#42 - CIS White Male (09/12/2014) [-]
The main problem is that the campaign for the referendum has led to huge bad feelings on both sides, and whatever the outcome the status quo isn't really going to snap back easily. A lot of english are thinking basically "fine, you can bloody well fuck off then".
Unfortunately scotland will certainly not benefit from independence.
Labour (unfortunately the next government likely to get in) have on their manifesto specifically that they won't allow the scots the pound, and the conservatives are very against that as well. The EU has stated they won't accept any new members until 2017 at the very earliest due to some reason I forgot which. RBS have said a couple of days ago they will move their base to london if independence happens. And you can't run a country on just a bit of oil. But unfortunately they are kind of digging themselves into a pit, because they have really pissed off a lot of England.
#36 - hargleblarg (09/12/2014) [-]
Scotland gains nothing from independance other than "freedom". They lose fuckity everything instead. No pound for currency, no insta-EU access like they thought, over-exaggerated claims of their oil and gas reserves, so they'll run out eventually, and sooner than yes-campaigners say. Also the Scottish cabinet lose their jobs, because they're employed by Westminster, so bye-bye government.
I understand why some people want to vote yes, but in every possible logical way it is the wrong choice.
#49 - gearsct (09/12/2014) [-]
I'm a Scot living in England, and I can't see anything but an economic collapse in Scotland come independence. I really can't see any proof that they've worked it all out and will be fine. At this moment in time all I see is a bunch of pissed off Scots who just can't be bothered with the English any more, no logical reasoning at all.
Also in the end it'll break Britain's economy if Scotland break off, the only difference being, Britain have already got the means to recover quickly if it happs I really hope my country make the right decision and vote no.
#40 - CIS White Male (09/12/2014) [-]
Scot, here. I also care very little. As long as the internet is not affected then I'm good.
#52 - gohex (09/12/2014) [-]
Can't really go into details I'm afraid but basically her visa is dependant on a certain income amount else it's invalid, so if I lose my job I lose my wife being in the country.
As for how I could lose my job, I work on a contract within the British government public sector which can only due to security reasons have British people emyployed. If I'm no longer in Britain and just Scotland, then I lose my job, and I lose my wife.
TLDR: because I need my job to keep the wife in the country, and I might lose my job.
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#211 - CIS White Male (09/08/2014) [-]
what Rusia had wasnt communism but a dictatorship, a very self destructive one. Real communism or the called "socialism" would actually lead to an utopic organization (which capitalism clearly cant develope) but every time any country has tried to set such state some asshole comes along an fucks up.
#112 - CIS White Male (09/08/2014) [-]
and then people say "dont blame obama, look at the mess he had to clean up from bush" meanwhile there was so much room for improvement
#59 - CIS White Male (09/07/2014) [-]
His personal action do matter a lot because for us russians he is a good president, before him the "oligarchs" kept everything for themselfes and just fucked up our whole country. The rest was corrupted politicians who got paid by the US to keep russia beeing a thrid world country
#138 - CIS White Male (09/08/2014) [-]
So now the oligarchs don't keep it but putin does...... 70 billion dollar net worth
#65 - CIS White Male (09/07/2014) [-]
Except of course 'good' is subjective depending on the kind of context you're looking at. I mean, just look at the Ukraine-Russia thing. I'm not talking about morality here, I'm talking about the economic implications of this. In light of him choosing to start this proxy war of his which has caused a number of sanctions against Russia, and sanctions from Russia in turn. The rouble to dollar amount has greatly decreased. What once was a ~27:1 rouble to dollar ratio is now ~37:1. Nobody benefits from this. The only companies in Russia that aren't being screwed currently is the Natural Gas companies since China is their main buyer.
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