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|#134 - Your logic is flawed here as Christianity in all its forms are… [+] (11 new replies)||09/03/2012 on You said it, not me.||0|
#136 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
They did not write it, they simply took books from the scriptures and put them together, there are many other books that did not make it past the vote to get into the bible.
It is the same as Christianity and the old testament teachings, they are Jewish teachings not christian ones.
#137 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
Okay. And my statement was that the roman catholic church in its current form is not a Christian establishment. They reject Jesus as their savior and thank St. mary mother of Jesus for all their well being and good fortunes in life. Yet the very bible they teach from says the only way is to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. A Christian is someone who accepts the teachings of christ and accepts him as their savior. I'm not saying if you're a catholic you're not a christian. I'm saying the current Head Roman Catholic church is not a christian church because they reject the one thing you must accept to be christian. I understand this is opposite of what they say and what you've been taught. But look up the facts. The pope himself stated he owed his life to mary mother of jesus. Not JESUS. That's about as obvious as it gets
#138 - whyfalsewhy (09/04/2012) [-]
The catholic belief is that Jesus saved us all from our sins, essentially saving us from damnation after death, in the catholic church it goes without saying that Jesus has saved us as he has helped to spare us from hell if we choose to follow him, Catholics do not need reminding of this fact as it comes as part of their faith, unlike other forms of Christianity they don't constantly abuse the name Jesus to justify their faith, they also worship Mary as she was the mother of god, the Trinity says that God Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one being, so in fact if anyone who believes in Catholicism even in fact blesses themselves they are praying to god, this in turn because of the Trinity means they a praying and worshiping Jesus.
No matter what way you turn it in Catholicism the fact that you put your faith in god and accept god into your heart also means you are placing Jesus in your heart as they are one.
Mary in the Catholic faith has appeared in countless visions and helped to turn people away from evil, this is why she is worshiped and the pope would claim she saved him.
#141 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When he came to redeem mankind, he laid aside his glory and was made like unto sinful man so that he could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means he had no beginning.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, Catholics worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
[Note: Exodus 20:4-5 is the second of the ten commandments found in Exodus 20. Roman Catholics often learn the ten commandments, not straight from the Bible but from another source like a poster or a workbook. This Roman Catholic "traditional way of enumerating the ten commandments"
#140 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. She remained a perpetual virgin.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - After Mary delivered our precious Lord Jesus Christ into the world, Joseph did know his wife. Joseph and Mary indeed had children together, plenty of them. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.
Matthew 1:24-25 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not TILL she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
#139 - juckinfunk (09/04/2012) [-]
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
1) It is a doctrine of devils to forbid God's people to marry.
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, GIVING HEED TO seducing spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 FORBIDDING TO MARRY, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
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