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#784 - Ever consider the reason people do things to begin with? You a… 11/12/2014 on Worth the read. +1
#2 - Easy to say to an adult that knows the reality of WHY not to c…  [+] (81 new replies) 11/10/2014 on Worth the read. +394
#623 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Yes, in fact it's normally easier for a child to discern correct morality.

User avatar #604 - whitehawk (11/11/2014) [-]
I agree if it's a drug crime such as (having said amount of illegal drugs) that only hurts himself (usually), but violent crimes? mugging, assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder? Even if you're 15 that shit doesn't fly. At any age.
#543 - swagbot (11/11/2014) [-]
Or, even more to the point than that...

... ever think about the things that are considered a 'crime' nowadays?

Life offense for smoking a joint - for an honest mistake on taxes - because some Police Chief has it out for you, etc. etc. etc.

If any power-happy jackass (local or Federal) gets it in his mind to ruin your life, he can - we violate miniscule laws every day.

Walk the straight-and- impossibly- narrow, or we fuck up your life forever. It's a tactics the Controllers of Society use to channel people into living their lives the way they want those people to.
#527 - drizztrocks (11/11/2014) [-]
Yeah also, 15 year old's are told their entire life NOT to do crimes, there's more 15 year old's NOT committing crimes than 15 year old's that ARE committing crimes. Therefor I have no sympathy for 15 year old's that ARE committing crimes because they're purposely going against the grain to fuck up their lives. People have told them time and time again NOT to do that, that dealing drugs is BAD. Do NOT fuck up in school. Stay straight edge. It's more jammed into their head than anything else, to be a good person, and they STILL find a way to fuck up.
User avatar #784 - whatugawkinat (11/12/2014) [-]
Ever consider the reason people do things to begin with? You and I both have been in this boat, kids are curious creatures and we have all wondered WHY and WHY NOT we are told the things we are. "Don't do this, don't do that" "Because I said so"...etc. are the very foundation for kids doing illegal and wrong things. We're told from day one not to do shit, and when we see others doing it, we question why we were told no...thus being the curious shits we are, do it. Saying "Don't do drugs because they're bad" and "Don't do such and such because you'll get in trouble" does little to give anyone a reason to avoid things that seem fun and exciting...but neglecting to mention details described in this post and mentioning exactly why certain things are not to be done is the key to this issue. Parents are to blame just as much as the kids. Far too many parents just assume that all they have to do is tell their kids "No!" and expect them to magically get it and solemnly swear to never do anything wrong...parents should put just as much effort onto being a damn parent as they insist their children put into being a good adult.
#517 - menacto (11/11/2014) [-]
A kid i went to highschool with murdered his mother with a knife and a baseball bat. He was 16 though so i guess we should let him off the hook right?
#498 - assistantmanager (11/11/2014) [-]
what the fuck do you have to do when you're 15 to land in prison for 5 years though? thats well beyond "a stupid mistake."

Courts are very lenient with kids. You don't make "a mistake" and land in prison for 5 years when you're a kid, especially not "because" you're 15. thats a bullshit cop out, otherwise there would be all kinds of 15 year olds doing whatever the hell this person did.
#473 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Sorry mate, But I did not commit a crime ever. Not when I was 15, and also not earlier. If I can do it, so can everyone else.You fuck up it is your thing. Criminals deserve this shit, and I fully endorse everything that has been written in the picture of OP.

The only instance of a crime being acceptable is a deffrence between life and death death situation.
User avatar #466 - rmdx (11/11/2014) [-]
Yea because what was going in my mind when I was 13/14/15/16 was stabbing someone or robbing a car. It's a personal issue not a 'youth issue'. The biggest thing I did was rob a small football sticker.
User avatar #430 - malific (11/11/2014) [-]
I'm not saying that to him. I'm saying that to those who read the story.

Moral: a lesson, especially one concerning what is right or prudent, that can be derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience.

The story here is fucked up and sad and teaches the moral of don't commit a crime and get caught or you're completely fucked.

That being said the story says he was drug trafficking and knew he was doing wrong when he did it but was doing it anyway.

And finally, I have no sympathy, because I give no fucks for someone I don't know about an internet story that may or may not be true.
#408 - swagmonstah (11/11/2014) [-]
Millions of 15 year olds don't make stupid mistakes.
Why is it that they get to lead productive, successful lives?
Because they weren't fucking idiots, and they knew right form wrong.
#379 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
He was dealing DRUGS. Pretty hardcore shit, too. (he got five years)
#353 - ripgeckosncherios (11/11/2014) [-]
Hm, 15 year old have specific laws applied to them though, don't they? I mean I guess it depends on the country and all, but a friend of mine broke into one of those housecars for lack of the proper word when he was 17 and when he was 22 or so it was all gone, like the record actually got deleted, because in my country crimes don't last longer than that
User avatar #343 - killzones (11/11/2014) [-]
I'm 14 turning 15 in January, and I know the weight of my actions control my future today. I do know a lot of people my age are fucking stupid, so I see it from your side too.
#295 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
if your a 15 year old kid and you commit a crime that will get you 5 years in prison you had it coming. youre old enough to know right from wrong and you should carry that for the rest of your life. If that wasn't the case every 15 year old kid would go around saying "its okay if i get caught and go to jail ill just get out and be able to never live with the consequences again."
User avatar #223 - mysori (11/11/2014) [-]
Yes
#141 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
So in your US, being 15, 3 years from becoming more accountable for his/her actions is too dumb to understand the basic concepts of right and wrong?

Don't do bad shit don't worry about bad shit following you.
#131 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
I dont know man, when I was 15 I knew not to break the fucking law.
Kids are not as dumb as people think, they know full well that selling drugs, even if its just weed or some mollys is illegal and can fuck up their life, but they dont care.
#130 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
kid should have had better role models, or the dip shit should have done as he was taught
#82 - jakatackka (11/11/2014) [-]
Or rather, should any stupid thing you do when you're 15 have to haunt you for the rest of your life? Even if you know what you did was wrong, no one should have to suffer for the stupid shit they did for their entire life.
User avatar #81 - I Am Monkey (11/11/2014) [-]
Any criminal record you had when you were 15 is sealed when you come of age.
At least in the US.
#73 - apurpleliger (11/11/2014) [-]
I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't make a mistake that big at age 15. I didn't even consider coming anywhere close to that because I had put on my big boy pants and knew not to do something if I couldn't handle the consequences.
User avatar #63 - paintskillz (11/11/2014) [-]
We were 15 once too and I dont know about you guys but I sure as hell knew I wasn't supposed to commit any crimes way before then. Stop holding age as an excuse because anyone older than 10 knows the difference between right and wrong.
User avatar #49 - hydraetis (11/11/2014) [-]
I'm 19 and still have yet to go out and break laws which I have known existed since I first understood what a law is.
User avatar #48 - commontroll (11/11/2014) [-]
I was 15 once, I never got arrested or broke laws. Sounds like a personal problem to me.
User avatar #184 - commontroll (11/11/2014) [-]
Jay walked a few times, but I've always hated jaywalking, so I made sure to pretty much never do it. It's also a civil offense, not a criminal one. No prison time even possible. Didn't torrent content because I didn't want viruses. Only drank when given permission by my parents, in their presence, and in my house until I was 20. Smoked cigars for the first time on my friend's 19th birthday, a couple months after my own 19th birthday Since then I've smoked a few more and now very rarely smoke a pipe. Never smoked cigarettes. Never used illegal substances. Or legal substances illegally. Never partied with kids underage. Hell, if I'm 15 anyway, why would that be illegal unless the party itself has illegal activities going on?

And no, I'm not a no-life, well at least I wasn't in high school. All these things I simply didn't do because I don't like breaking the law unnecessarily.

Avoiding prison is really fucking easy. 15 or not.
User avatar #253 - shiningfinger (11/11/2014) [-]
Not saying its HARD, but most people break a few laws.
User avatar #593 - commontroll (11/11/2014) [-]
Yeah, but not enough to put you in prison for a sentence longer than 5 years and actually have to be in there for 5 of them. The law goes super easy on them because they're minors, and they'll be in for a year when an adult would be in anywhere from 5-15 years.
User avatar #315 - mcroflskates (11/11/2014) [-]
Generally not the ones that get you five years in prison.
User avatar #45 - syfygeek (11/11/2014) [-]
I remember being 15, good times

I don't recall breaking any laws

furthermore, I recall I knew what laws were. because i wasn't a fucking dumbass.
#69 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
you have never downloaded anything illegally? It is a federal crime you know
#307 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada
Ya, in your country. Here it's fine if you follow private copying guidelines.
#257 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
No it's not. The movie and record industry have told us over and over it is but it's not in the law. It's a civil offense, but for some reason thanks to all the money they have they manage to get to FBI, Police and who ever else to do their "piracy patrol" just as if it was a crime.
User avatar #111 - syfygeek (11/11/2014) [-]
except no one gives a fuck
User avatar #56 - hydraetis (11/11/2014) [-]
I think the problem is that everyone nowadays has a massive hard-on for breaking rules, and then they get upset and call it unfair when they're caught and punished for doing shit they damn well know they shouldn't have been doing.
User avatar #57 - syfygeek (11/11/2014) [-]
I feel that's an extension of society

the next generation is going to be a generation of pussies and criminals
User avatar #59 - hydraetis (11/11/2014) [-]
It's funny, I'm half-white, half-filipino, moved to Canada from another country, and yet the only thing that makes me feel like a minority is the fact I don't need to do stupid shit.
User avatar #66 - syfygeek (11/11/2014) [-]
I've seen a lot of dumbasses in my day.
#37 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
You know, I was 15 once.
User avatar #36 - kacem (11/11/2014) [-]
that because fucking queer like you corrupt the country that there is some much gay teen faggot
#34 - slias (11/11/2014) [-]
I wasn't that much of a dumbarse when I was fifteen. They may be young, but they're not retards.
User avatar #17 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
When I was 15 I didn't commit a crime.
Turns out 15 year olds have the moral ability to determine right from wrong.
If they do it anyway, they're a fucking dumbass. End of story.
User avatar #139 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
>When I was 15 I didn't commit a crime
So you never jaywalked, torrented content, drank underage, smoked underage, used any illegal substances, or partied with kids underage

>Turns out 15 year olds have the moral ability to determine right from wrong
So that's implying that all other kids are exactly like you.

>If they do it anyway, they're a fucking dumbass. End of story.
Now you just seem like a total redneck jack ass who is incapable of any higher level thinking and doesn't know shit about debate. Maybe you shouldn't dub criminals as idiots as they weren't able to fully develop their morality.

The reason why they committed the crime could stem from their neurological deficits. And these could have even come even from their mother ingesting toxic substances or drugs during pregnancy. There are numerous studies which show that a persons biology (which is completely out of their influence) can lead to crime.

So what? Some might argue that criminals are evolutionary throwbacks or scum.

But the truth is a person's environment and upbringing can make them more deviant. Growing up with a broken home, or criminal parents can increase likelihood of criminal behavior. How might have your parents have been different from OPs parents? Also there are many studies that show that peer groups and where people group up can influence crime. So growing up in a poor neighbourhood vs a rich neighbourhood can turn a child into a hardened criminal. Even the environment itself can affect the child's development in many different ways. The child's role models, peer groups, self fulfilling prophecy (to name some) can all affect a person's moral development.

Environment also predisposes a person to opportunities to commit crime. For example maybe you lived in a place where it snowed a lot so you threw snowballs at cars for fun. But OP lived in a place where he could first smoke weed, then do a couple drops for a friend, then start dealing, and finally dealing large amounts.
#300 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
youre stupid and youre words are stupid
#172 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
The crimes you listed will not be caught and don't add up to the five year prison time.

Another reason they could have committed a crime was because they wanted to. Sometimes it is that simple but everyone has to be a special case where their life was so fucked up that there was no choice left.

User avatar #144 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
Furthermore, what OP is arguing is that one mistake that he made in his life should not dictate THE REST OF HIS FUCKING LIFE.

So ok dealing large quantities of weed is bad. Having that mindset is bad and everything about it is bad. Later on in life, OP realizes this and wants to start his new life where he rejects his former mindset and his former actions. He should have the right to do that. Honestly, I cannot think of a reason why not to let OP do that.

Another point is that OP even said himself that he has two options in life right now. 1 live a dirt poor life where he his whole life is complete shit or 2 he can go back to crime and make big bucks and enjoy a life of (arguably) success. C'mon, even I would choose the former
#154 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
Holy fucking shit, is this how you spend your time?
Writing book reports on internet comments?
User avatar #156 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
You call this a book report? LOL. Also nice ad hominem

No it's how I spend my midnight on a monday night.

I just finished a 3000 word Crim paper. All this stuff is still fresh in my mind. Also look at my post below
User avatar #158 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
Pointing out logical fallacies, wowee.
You must feel so intellectually superior to me, your lowly opponent who can't even make a reasoned argument without resorting to personal slander.
Boy, the local debating team must be proud to have you in their ranks.
And I'll bet you feel so secure in your victory that you won't even need to reply to this comment!
User avatar #164 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
>baller
>pretty much
>i suck at debate to be honest
>nope
#140 - moocowsz (11/11/2014) [-]
As you can see by everyone elses comments you are trying to reason with a man who does not believe in logic, so to say.
User avatar #147 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
Sure if Scant wants to refrain from logic and instead use that gut feeling called cognitive dissonance he can go ahead.

But there are plenty of other people on this site as well. My goal was to educate as many people as I can on criminology and encourage higher-level thinking (I also wanted to vent some rage). There are probably a bunch of kids or teens here. If my post can make them at least slightly more educated, I'll be good.
#152 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
You guys are so cute, talking about me as though I'm not here.
"If my post can make them at least slightly more educated, I'll be good."
That was my favourite line.
You probably know everything there is to know, eh?
Man, must feel good being 20.
User avatar #161 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
Man I do not care if you are here or not. Your just some uneducated dumbass.
Your acting like you know everything yourself.
I acknowledge that I don't know everything. But I'm using research and theories from fields which have been developing for hundreds of years.
User avatar #163 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
See my above comment for more reasons to feel morally superior.
Such intellectual righteousness mustn't go to waste. Quickly! I bet there are others on the internet who are also wrong! Better go make an example of them, too!
Honestly, you guys are like social justice warriors. Intellectual justice warriors, maybe?
User avatar #166 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
intellectual justice warriors LOL

Maybe. Idiots and cognitive dissonance disgust me. I mean sure have a different opinion than me or belong to a different group, but at least fashion a well rounded argument.

Also your replying to my posts as well.
#171 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
I'm glad you managed to get a total handle on my intellectual capacity simply by reading a couple of my Funnyjunk comments, which I put so much effort into. After all, how are people going to judge my worth if not through the quality of things I type on the internet?

In all seriousness, I'm curious as to how old you are. 22 maybe?
I sure hope for your sake that your bubble of intelligence is never shattered.
You can say you're disgusted by idiots all you want. Wait until you have to work for one in the real world. Can't say to them any of the shit you've said to me, or else you get your ass fired. Temperance is a good thing, lad.

You're absolutely right. I could be playing Binding of Isaac right now. L8R FGT.
User avatar #174 - laky (11/11/2014) [-]
I read people easily. Has always been a gift of mine. Doesn't matter whether its over the internet.

Honestly I'm 18. Spent time working, traveling to foreign countries, IB and go to uni now. Maybe I worded myself wrong. You just have low empathy and low ability for critical thinking. Sure you can have other types of intelligence. Also I wouldn't say the same shit to my coworkers or someone else. Just because I rant on some shitty site doesn't mean I'm a total autist irl

l8r g8r
#125 - moocowsz (11/11/2014) [-]
Remember when you saw those claims on porn sites saying you needed to be 18 or older to click on them?
User avatar #128 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
Dunno about you, but I'm pretty sure you won't get 5 years for that.
#138 - moocowsz (11/11/2014) [-]
Some good logic you have there.
#143 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
I don't really care enough about this to have an internet argument with a tard.
Thumb me down all you want. Hell, I won't even delete my comments, just to give you fair sport.
#146 - moocowsz (11/11/2014) [-]
#155 - scant (11/11/2014) [-]
Yeah dude.
Not wanting to have a pointless back-and-forth with some asshole on the internet about problems that have been plaguing society for longer than you've been alive is totally bait.
#129 - moocowsz (11/11/2014) [-]
"When I was 15 I didn't commit a crime. "
#71 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
never downloaded anything without having the appropriate rights? No movies? Not even once? Wow. A true angel
#106 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Better yet, I bet they always used a crosswalk.
User avatar #13 - tannerninja (11/11/2014) [-]
would have been a very big fucking mistake to have a youth get sent to jail for who knows how long and actually serve 5 years of it
User avatar #10 - makotoitou (11/11/2014) [-]
Pretty sure 15 year olds know what crime is.
User avatar #123 - psykobear (11/11/2014) [-]
You're taking it too literally.
A 15 year old doesn't fully understand how fucked up their life would become due to crime. While they know there are consequences, they don't grasp the intensity of them.
#175 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
So people have to know the outcome of being found guilty of a crime to not break the law? lol k
User avatar #718 - psykobear (11/11/2014) [-]
Not all people. Kids.
People your age don't realize the outcome.
#65 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
A 15 year old isn't mature enough to understand the consequences. Im 21 and i feel like i was a toddler when i was 15. I also got my private pilots license at 14 so in no way was I a dumb kid. Your understanding of the world completely changes when you rely on your paycheck to survive
User avatar #42 - Visual (11/11/2014) [-]
Doesn't mean they know exactly what consequences entail crime.
User avatar #288 - cocopopsonfire (11/11/2014) [-]
I'm sorry but i knew years before i was 15 the difference between right and wrong

Just because i don't know the consequences of a specific crime doesn't mean i should go about murdering people and robbing banks.

There are very few crimes that can be committed without knowing in your conscience that it is wrong
#664 - bearception (11/11/2014) [-]
What if you fight someone because they ganged up on you and now you have a criminal record, yeah you might only have to go to jail for a little while, but you'll still have a record, and most jobs don't ask for details because they fear criminals will lie, because all criminals are lying murderers. basically there are minor crimes/ circumstances that don't deserve this punishment, and these circumstances are usually the ones found in bad neighborhoods, we are disadvantaging our perfectly capable and bright citizens who live in bad neighborhoods more than they already are.
#521 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
doing something wrong, and being held accountable for it for 70 years, isnt exactly what the 15 y/o expected when he committed that minor crime.
#563 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
such as smoking marijuana.
#31 - locke (11/11/2014) [-]
watch the movie Le Miserables (not the musical version) the slightly older version was an adaptation of the story line of the musical into an actual movie and it's very good. It's about a man who stole a piece of bread because he was starving on the street, he was sentenced to 10 years in prison then when he was released he was told to report somewhere for probation lasting the rest of his life. luckily he comes across a priest who brings him in for a night and feeds him and since his future looks so bleak he tries to steal the silver from the priest to help buy his was out of there. when the police catch him he's brought back the the priest who tells them he gave the silver to the convict and in fact gives him more silver, when the convict asks why the priest says because he's buying the convicts soul back for god. the convict later goes on the be one of the governor of a town and do great things because he ran away from his parole.

my over arcing point here is, if someone does something stupid it doesn't define them for their entire lives unless society demands it, and if society demands it they can expect nothing better of him. silly little things like drug convictions, a minor assault, and other things brand them for life. people will only go so long slaving away to make ends meat, being told their a criminal for so long before they revert back to a way they can finally get away from working like a slave only to be told their trash and far too often that is the same crime that put them in prison in the first place, the system doesn't rehabilitate minor criminals, it makes them worse by taking away all their options.
User avatar #598 - misanthrizzle (11/11/2014) [-]
That sounds great because most people don't want to see musicals
I wish I knew about it in high school so I could have suggested the movie instead so to actually be interested and engaged in the script..
#18 - >One person cannot speak for all >Several people can…  [+] (21 new replies) 11/10/2014 on not too stupid for Obama... +159
User avatar #368 - ChewyConor (11/11/2014) [-]
1 type definitely works and another is a theoretical one which might work.
The first is a benevolent dictatorship. An overruling leader who leads with honest intentions and with the best interests of his or her people at heart. This is extremely rare and extremely fragile because power corrupts people and assholes lie their way into power. One example of this system in effect is Bhutan; ruled by a dictator King, and ruled peacefully and happily for just about everyone.
The second is a theoretical version of democracy with a weighted vote. By that I mean your vote counts for as much as your knowledge/experience justifies. Basic weight is 1 and a maximum could be set. The values can be played around with to find the best balance.
I like the system where when you turn 14 you get a core vote weight of 1, it increases steadily with age so that at 16 that becomes 2, 18 it becomes 3 and 21 it becomes 4. At 30 it becomes 5 and at 50 it becomes 6. With job experience your vote in relation to matters relating to your job or job industry increases logarithmically (e.g. +1 for 6 months, then +1 for every doubling of experience). Academic studies beyond standard education increase your vote weight with regards to that area of knowledge.
There is a senate/parliament type system with voted leaders in various fields of industry/academics attending, each with a 'score' relating to other topics.
When government is discussing an infrastructure issue, the 50 year old politician with little engineering knowledge/experience has less say than the 25 year old civil engineer. As it should be.
#234 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
I think the problem is more that we have most of what we need already, but are trying to make the government come up with laws for things that they shouldn't have anything to do with, so it has left the realms of what is needed and moved to the realm of what is wanted. And no one wants the same thing.
User avatar #169 - carthos (11/11/2014) [-]
quote from the hitchhikers guid to the galaxy
"The major problem — one of the major problems, for there are several — one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.
#112 - ojallday (11/11/2014) [-]
I think that a semi-agricultural tribal organization would be a good option you gain the ability to make all of your decisions at the expense of lost exponential technological growth.
#99 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Anarchy any one?
User avatar #268 - nigeltheoutlaw (11/11/2014) [-]
Anarchy is about as viable as a purely communist or purely libertarian society; all assume that humans are good beings who would never act improperly or greedily.
User avatar #111 - ojallday (11/11/2014) [-]
its viable but humans need some sort of organization now because most people are too stupid to survive without the structure.
#116 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
It's already anarchy. People just haven't realized it yet. At any moment in time you could decide to just go out into public, find somebody to follow, and when they're alone kill them. In the middle of a conversation you could just straight out punch somebody in the face. You could burn down a school just because. You could even make the choice to just flat our kill yourself, slit your wrists with a kitchen knife. And no law would be able to stop you.

On the flip side, you could start a charity, tear out some grass wherever you please and make a farm to feed the homeless, leave the country and become a doctor without borders, colonize an island, live in the wilderness, rehabilitate dogs, whatever you wish to do. All without the permission of any government, beyond what you tell yourself you need.

But if that's to... wordy for you, I suppose I should just invoke Rule 0: Any rule that is not enforcable or enforced does not truly exist. And the rules only exist because we think they do.
User avatar #123 - ojallday (11/11/2014) [-]
That was back handed anon, I read. I'm just too lazy to articulate myself fully sometimes. but yes you are right there is truly nothing stopping an individual from doing what they want, however you have to take into account the value all other humans put into these rules. Because they are willing to hunt you down, strip you of all humanity and sometimes even kill you for breaking their sacred rules. but if your willing to take the risk then nothing is stopping you.
#97 - peterdivine (11/11/2014) [-]
The only solution I can see, is that humanity has proven it cannot rule itself. Even when the systems work, they either remain too static to deal with change over time, or become too corrupted to function as originally intended.

The only true rule humanity can have, then, can only be done by something non-human. Something that cannot be corrupted by worldly desires, but has the capacity to adapt its governance to changing times and environments. Something like...
User avatar #96 - syntheticdoll (11/11/2014) [-]
A thing that would most probably work is a GOOD king/minister/ruler or a council of each level of society.
#81 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
I can't believe how disillusioned people are nowadays, there are plenty of better societal structures than what we have now that could benefit all of mankind. You don't have to have a system that existed in the past, with the technology we have there are many new systems that could benefit everyone.
#238 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Someone doesn't understand what disillusioned means.
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#71 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
I love you. I've been saying this shit forever when people bitch, they don't get it.
#65 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Don't you realize that democracy is the closest thing we have to "consulting literally every person about the decision". Do you know why the science community agrees that peer review is the only judge of legitamacy? Because it just makes sense, if we are a group and want the best decisions, we'd need to each weigh in on it, but after so many decisions this gets tedious, so we just delegate a leader, whom we think will make good decisions. The choice of leader is very important. So why the fuck would we not use peer review and just ask every person whom they want to lead and go from there. This system is about approaching ultimate agreement on what to do, You can try to fuck with it, but ultimately, if you want everyone to agree, you need to ask everyone. I dont give a fuck if we choose a leader who is 'less intelligent' or 'makes bad choices'. because atleast the majority of us wanted that man and views those choices as good, or mistakes. If you are in a group with dumb people, leave.
#66 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
TLDR; governments are just group dynamics, if you try to leave people out, you create a fucked up group. and people leave. if you want stability, majority rules is the only way.
User avatar #20 - wotterpatch (11/10/2014) [-]
I personally think we should go back to kings.

King not working out? Revolt.
This policy is also a great way to prevent overpopulation
#35 - Common Pepe (11/11/2014) [-]
Kings only worked because people had no access to technology.
User avatar #43 - jusktiinah (11/11/2014) [-]
Not exactly. A monarchy can very well work out, if justified by calling the right ends. Having a monarchy would ease the people of the burden of choice; the liberties that most of them would deliberately give away for safety; the period of anyone who might follow shortens down, because heritage is ruled beforehand by the law.
Also, a king as a Leviathan can always be seen as the safest of all ways to ensure the social contract. Anyone voted in democrately has a strive for more power, so they will attempt do fight a social contract; a king however, one with absolute powers wouldn't have to strive for more power, which means that he would have nearly no reasons to ignore the social contract. Also, binding the people to a royal family can ensure the safety of the contract from the losing side and promotes Nationalism, which can be useful if you strive for even more power in disregard of basic human rights by building an imperialist country based on authocracy in the form of monarchy.
Hope that helped.
User avatar #36 - wotterpatch (11/11/2014) [-]
and because the kings were stupid.

doesn't have to be familial rule, just pick someone who's smart to rule for life.
better than changing the entire countries motives every four years
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#62 - swiggityswooty (11/10/2014) [-]
i wouldnt say stupid, i would put it more as a, wrapped up in thought.
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#31 - swiggityswooty (11/10/2014) [-]
being high doesnt make stuff magically disappear.
User avatar #61 - whatugawkinat (11/10/2014) [-]
...but it does, however, make you much more likely to forget and misplace things. There's no denying the fact that weed makes you quite a bit more "stupid" than sober.
#62 - swiggityswooty (11/10/2014) [-]
i wouldnt say stupid, i would put it more as a, wrapped up in thought.
#39 - fuckinfuckinfuck (11/10/2014) [-]
But it can make you more unaware of what's going on around you. When people do dumb stoner shit, it's not because weed makes you forgetful or dumb, but it's really easy to just lose yourself in your thoughts and become kind of ADD. As a smoker with ADHD, can confirm true.

I've used my phone flashlight to look for my phone at least a good four times.
#40 - swiggityswooty (11/10/2014) [-]
im a fellow stoner, but im kinda tryna destroy the clumsy, aloof stoner steryotype, that way people will begin to see us as people instead of addicts and realize we arent so different.
User avatar #42 - fuckinfuckinfuck (11/10/2014) [-]
I'm with you on that one. It is a misconception that weed automatically makes you clumsy/forgetful/slow. People who are naturally forgetful will become more so when high, but it won't make you forgetful and unaware if you typically aren't. It just exaggerates that stereotype.
User avatar #47 - mcroflskates (11/10/2014) [-]
I smoke because I think too much. I like being dumbed down, I'm always stressing over little things when I'm not.
User avatar #48 - fuckinfuckinfuck (11/10/2014) [-]
Interesting. That's the exact opposite from me. I actually think more when I'm high. I get more tense because I feel like I can't slow down my train of thought, and my thinking becomes super internalized and analytical. If I smoke too much after stopping for a couple months or so, I feel like my train of thought is just going off the rails, and I start to panic and freak out. It's too much, and it feels like I'm thinking many thoughts at the same time, like some kind of schizophrenia.
User avatar #51 - fuckinfuckinfuck (11/10/2014) [-]
Hmm, I've heard that weed tends to make extoverts more introverted, and introverts more extroverted. Maybe it has that same opposite effect on stress or it's somehow related. I'm naturally really relaxed and not worried about anything. Maybe it makes me more anxious/stressed because I'm usually not, and makes you more calm and mentally relaxed because you're usually not?
#44 - swiggityswooty (11/10/2014) [-]
thank you
#41 - swiggityswooty (11/10/2014) [-]
if i make no sense i apologize
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#64 - ffffffffuuuuuuuu (10/29/2014) [-]
I work at Casey's General Store. It's a small gas station with a kitchen in back. I mostly do pizzas but I've been there for 4 years so I know everything. Customers are super anal about their pizza. They ask for shit we don't even have, like thin crust, thick crust, stuffed crust. I'll tell them I can try to make the crust as thin as I can and they still bitch. They bitch cause the dough his too soft. They bitch cause it's too crispy saying its burnt. They bitch because it's too greasy. bitch I don't add the fucking grease to the fucking pizza shut the fuck up.

Sorry, I just got off my shift. Shitty night.
#52 - oinos (10/29/2014) [-]
I would still pick you guys over starbucks. Because unlike starbucks you guys aren't cunts to customers. Then again I drink my coffee with so much cream and sugar that it can't be considered coffee anymore so I'm not a picky fucker. Just want caffeine in a cup unlike most people who are coffee aficionado's or some shit. (Plus you guys don't sell everything at some exorbitantly high mark up. fuck all when I buy a doughnut from starbucks that is a shit doughnut for like 9 bucks. Dunkin has them for like less than a buck and the dunkin's are better too. )
User avatar #48 - successfully (10/29/2014) [-]
Thank you for telling your tale. As a resident of a small city with a Dunkin' in an T-Bird, I have more respect for the shit the counter workers put up with.
#22 - zepherius (10/29/2014) [-]
I managed a Dunkins that was in a Shell gas station. Fucking dunkins addicts are retarded when they haven't had their dose. Had this one guy order a medium hot coffee with a tiny bit of hot chocolate on top, didnt put any hot chocolate in it and it was returned with the guy saying it hard to much hot chocolate. Fuck Dunkins
#25 - Common Pepe (10/29/2014) [-]
And here in my country, we Dunkins doesn't exist and considering the stories you people tell of them, these donuts must be worthy of royalty.
#26 - zepherius (10/29/2014) [-]
They blow more ass than a korean prostitute. Americans are just easy as fuck to get addicted to shit.
User avatar #33 - cacti (10/29/2014) [-]
Yeah dunkin donuts taste like shit.
#15 - Common Pepe (10/28/2014) [-]
get out
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User avatar #81 - wobblewub (10/26/2014) [-]
full cans of lube that are empty?

What kind of sick twisted individual do you have to be to come up with something like that? I need lube!
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User avatar #78 - volksunion (10/26/2014) [-]
and probably your own personal torture
User avatar #79 - whatugawkinat (10/26/2014) [-]
...a billion full cans of monster ultra blue......all of them are empty.
User avatar #81 - wobblewub (10/26/2014) [-]
full cans of lube that are empty?

What kind of sick twisted individual do you have to be to come up with something like that? I need lube!
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User avatar #70 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
I'm not saying you should live in terror,its just the thought that there could be nothing afterwards is the scary part.It 's not preventing me from enjoying life
User avatar #96 - ninjaroo (10/26/2014) [-]
I'd like to think my bank account has millions of dollars in it, that doesn't make it true.
User avatar #98 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
Uhm,what exactly is your point?I can't tell what your trying to say
User avatar #99 - ninjaroo (10/26/2014) [-]
That you shouldn't base what you believe on what's comforting.
User avatar #100 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
Well,its not entirely based on comforting thought.I don't believe in god entirely cause heaven sounds nice.
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#67 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
I'd like to think there is a heaven,because whats so great about thinking about ceasing to exist,mind,body and soul?Its terrifying
User avatar #69 - whatugawkinat (10/26/2014) [-]
I find it comforting, knowing that I have ~ 80 years of life on this earth, to learn its secrets, discover its places, discover ME and what I want out of the life I've been granted. Life is a gift, not a curse. no offense to anyone with religious views or you and your view of heaven/hell. I was raised a fundamental baptist and spent 11 years in a small private church owned school, I just drifted into my own beliefs, thoughts and realities and found it illogical to turn back. I'd like to think there is a heaven as well, but why not make your time on earth your heaven for the time being....could end up with two heavens!
User avatar #70 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
I'm not saying you should live in terror,its just the thought that there could be nothing afterwards is the scary part.It 's not preventing me from enjoying life
User avatar #96 - ninjaroo (10/26/2014) [-]
I'd like to think my bank account has millions of dollars in it, that doesn't make it true.
User avatar #98 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
Uhm,what exactly is your point?I can't tell what your trying to say
User avatar #99 - ninjaroo (10/26/2014) [-]
That you shouldn't base what you believe on what's comforting.
User avatar #100 - checkemtrain (10/26/2014) [-]
Well,its not entirely based on comforting thought.I don't believe in god entirely cause heaven sounds nice.
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User avatar #76 - volksunion (10/26/2014) [-]
well it wouldnt make sense if it was just sitting there now would it
User avatar #77 - whatugawkinat (10/26/2014) [-]
sitting there, bored, no internet...for eternity.
User avatar #78 - volksunion (10/26/2014) [-]
and probably your own personal torture
User avatar #79 - whatugawkinat (10/26/2014) [-]
...a billion full cans of monster ultra blue......all of them are empty.
User avatar #81 - wobblewub (10/26/2014) [-]
full cans of lube that are empty?

What kind of sick twisted individual do you have to be to come up with something like that? I need lube!
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User avatar #96 - littleliz (10/16/2014) [-]
we cant save them all the reality is they get sick and sickness spreads and wolves used to eat the sick ones and then the sickness doesnt spread but there are barely any wolves left so we need to take that place. the best thing we can do is help them and respect them and keep them safe and hunters do all of that.
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