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wertologist

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#55 - It would likely depend on the event and how good of a lawyer y… 07/14/2016 on Sooppiluso Owsoft Finsemr 0
#39 - self·ish/ˈselfiSH/ adjective (of a person, …  [+] (1 new reply) 07/14/2016 on wuyah 0
#40 - professorjaded (07/14/2016) [-]
You should probably read the definition you searched up and take a minute or 2 to consider whether or not it actually invalidates my argument.

"By your logic I'd be selfish for kicking a puppy because I was mad." -Wert

This appears to be pretty selfish, according to the definition of selfishness. Relieving stress by kicking a puppy sounds like an action concerning your own pleasure.
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"Even if it makes you feel better," -Wert
"concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure. " -Wert
"You can be greedy and angry" -Wert

"risking the world and being a Benedict Arnold to his friends by proxy. "
We already established you can be upset or angry and still take actions that are selfish by definition, since his betrayal at the time was motivated because he was upset and thought joining the bad guys would make him feel better even at the cost of other people.
If selling out the world and your friends because you wanted to feel better does not fit within the category of selfish actions then that seems silly to me.
#36 - That wasn't selfishness. He was just pissed. His motivation wa…  [+] (3 new replies) 07/14/2016 on wuyah 0
#37 - professorjaded (07/14/2016) [-]
Ok, it should be said acting out of anger is an action motivated in order to make yourself feel better. Since he sided with the bad guys precisely because he felt he wasn't being treated fairly, he's also risking the world and being a Benedict Arnold to his friends by proxy.

If this is the case then his motivation at the time was exactly for himself at the cost of other people, therefore the logical conclusion would be to suggest his motivation at the time has to also be selfish.

If you can be upset and selfish at the same time then do you think it would be right or wrong to say the conclusion in this case would be accurate?
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#39 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
self·ish/ˈselfiSH/
adjective

(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

He had no desire for gain. He was just angry. Acting on anger isn't selfish. It's just acting on anger. By your logic I'd be selfish for kicking a puppy because I was mad.

Stop trying in to twist it. It's not that complex. He did it because of anger. Not greed or selfishness. His motivation was anger. When Wuya took over the world, he started to feel bad because he betrayed his friends.

Acting on anger isn't selfishness. Even if it makes you feel better, it's not being selfish. What you are confusing selfishness for is wrath.
#40 - professorjaded (07/14/2016) [-]
You should probably read the definition you searched up and take a minute or 2 to consider whether or not it actually invalidates my argument.

"By your logic I'd be selfish for kicking a puppy because I was mad." -Wert

This appears to be pretty selfish, according to the definition of selfishness. Relieving stress by kicking a puppy sounds like an action concerning your own pleasure.
-Riposte


"Even if it makes you feel better," -Wert
"concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure. " -Wert
"You can be greedy and angry" -Wert

"risking the world and being a Benedict Arnold to his friends by proxy. "
We already established you can be upset or angry and still take actions that are selfish by definition, since his betrayal at the time was motivated because he was upset and thought joining the bad guys would make him feel better even at the cost of other people.
If selling out the world and your friends because you wanted to feel better does not fit within the category of selfish actions then that seems silly to me.
#1466115 - Just did the Early Master Sword glitch in Twilight Princess fo…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/14/2016 on Video Games Board - console... 0
#1466160 - anon (07/14/2016) [-]
What is this glitch and how do you do it?
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#1466273 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
The glitch let's you have the master sword before the forest temple. This also let's you transform whenever you want and warp. Apparently the glitch can cause you to not be able to enter Goron mine, but another glitch can bypass it.

It's a huge hassle to do though. You have to time and angle your instagram kill death move on a shadow beast to launch yourself on a ledge then you run off the ledge and hope you aimed for the ledge that leads to the sacred Grove. Look it up on YouTube if you're curious.
#34 - I know what greed is. I think you may want to give those episo…  [+] (5 new replies) 07/14/2016 on wuyah 0
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#35 - professorjaded (07/14/2016) [-]
I dunno, potentially endangering the entire world and betraying your friends over something petty seems kind of selfish. "greed isn't limited to money or possessions. It's about doing things for yourself even at the cost of other people."

I also don't get the false dichotomy here, are you saying you can't be simultaneously selfish and upset at the same time?
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#36 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
That wasn't selfishness. He was just pissed. His motivation was anger and it was pretty clear. You can be greedy and angry, but he wasn't. Just anger, man. Trust me, I've seen every episode more times than I can count.

Remember when Hannibal tries to get him to turn again? He sees Guan treating him like shit and Hannibal saw history repeating itself(even though it was an elaborate hoax).

Acting out in anger isn't greed or being selfish. It's far closer to wrath.
#37 - professorjaded (07/14/2016) [-]
Ok, it should be said acting out of anger is an action motivated in order to make yourself feel better. Since he sided with the bad guys precisely because he felt he wasn't being treated fairly, he's also risking the world and being a Benedict Arnold to his friends by proxy.

If this is the case then his motivation at the time was exactly for himself at the cost of other people, therefore the logical conclusion would be to suggest his motivation at the time has to also be selfish.

If you can be upset and selfish at the same time then do you think it would be right or wrong to say the conclusion in this case would be accurate?
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#39 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
self·ish/ˈselfiSH/
adjective

(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

He had no desire for gain. He was just angry. Acting on anger isn't selfish. It's just acting on anger. By your logic I'd be selfish for kicking a puppy because I was mad.

Stop trying in to twist it. It's not that complex. He did it because of anger. Not greed or selfishness. His motivation was anger. When Wuya took over the world, he started to feel bad because he betrayed his friends.

Acting on anger isn't selfishness. Even if it makes you feel better, it's not being selfish. What you are confusing selfishness for is wrath.
#40 - professorjaded (07/14/2016) [-]
You should probably read the definition you searched up and take a minute or 2 to consider whether or not it actually invalidates my argument.

"By your logic I'd be selfish for kicking a puppy because I was mad." -Wert

This appears to be pretty selfish, according to the definition of selfishness. Relieving stress by kicking a puppy sounds like an action concerning your own pleasure.
-Riposte


"Even if it makes you feel better," -Wert
"concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure. " -Wert
"You can be greedy and angry" -Wert

"risking the world and being a Benedict Arnold to his friends by proxy. "
We already established you can be upset or angry and still take actions that are selfish by definition, since his betrayal at the time was motivated because he was upset and thought joining the bad guys would make him feel better even at the cost of other people.
If selling out the world and your friends because you wanted to feel better does not fit within the category of selfish actions then that seems silly to me.
#57 - I just found this on the wiki. "In Dead Rising 3… 07/14/2016 on Fuck yea Canada 0
#56 - Again, this isn't a debate about yours and my views on their s… 07/14/2016 on Fuck yea Canada 0
#69 - Always hated Seth Rogen. All of his roles are the essentially … 07/14/2016 on New Ghostbusters = dog poop +2
#54 - Killing Alzheimer patients is not in any way comparable. They …  [+] (3 new replies) 07/14/2016 on Fuck yea Canada 0
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#55 - dndxplain (07/14/2016) [-]
the entire point of C.U.R.E.s existence in DR is to promote that delimah. try to get off your high horse.
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#57 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
I just found this on the wiki.

"In Dead Rising 3, a museum exhibit revealed that at some point scientists who were studying zombies revealed that the brain of a zombie is completely in control of a parasite, and whoever that person was is completely gone. This may have resulted in CURE losing followers and possibly shutting down, due to no mention of it in the game."

The zombies don't even have control. They are puppets of a parasite. Without the parasite, they would drop dead. They are just dead meat suits.
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#56 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
Again, this isn't a debate about yours and my views on their stance. The debate was on their motives. They do want more accessible Zombrex, but their main goal is zombie rights. It's even in their name.

C.U.R.E: Citizens for Undead Rights and Equality.

There is no question on what their main goal is. It's even kind of funny because they don't want experiments to be done on them, but also want zombrex to be cheaper. Without experimenting, they will never find a definite cure and they would only ever have a limited supply of zombrex. The whole scheme of the Fortune City outbreak was to harvest queens so they could keep making zombrex. Without queens, there is no zombrex. Without zombrex, people will turn. C.U.R.E is like peta. They have good intentions, but often do more harm than good and don't understand the consequences of getting what they want.

>get off your high horse
This isn't a superiority complex. That doesn't even make sense in this.

There is no dilemma either. Throughout all of two, it completely destroys any defense C.U.R.E had for "zombies are people too!". Zombies literally do not feel any emotion. They do not think. They only kill. They only resemble people because they were once people. They lost all humanity when they turned.

Again, this isn't a debate on our views on their stance. Stop trying to change the subject. It is completely irrelevant what our views are. The debate was what they protested for.
#52 - They lost all aspects of humanity. They resemble nothing of th…  [+] (5 new replies) 07/14/2016 on Fuck yea Canada 0
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#53 - dndxplain (07/14/2016) [-]
it's basically the same argument for euthanizing alzheimer patients. Do they have to be "people" to be human, or does the fact thath they are a member of our species trump that.
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#54 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
Killing Alzheimer patients is not in any way comparable. They are still living and people. Zombies are lacking any qualities a person has and will attack anything living without caring of the dangers or morality. Alzheimer patients severity varies, but some can still resemble their former selves. Unless they are drooling vegetables, they still are people who can interact, have emotions, feel pain, etc. Zombies only can interact in the ways of relentlessly trying to eat living things. No emotions, no morality, no remorse. Just mindless killing machines.
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#55 - dndxplain (07/14/2016) [-]
the entire point of C.U.R.E.s existence in DR is to promote that delimah. try to get off your high horse.
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#57 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
I just found this on the wiki.

"In Dead Rising 3, a museum exhibit revealed that at some point scientists who were studying zombies revealed that the brain of a zombie is completely in control of a parasite, and whoever that person was is completely gone. This may have resulted in CURE losing followers and possibly shutting down, due to no mention of it in the game."

The zombies don't even have control. They are puppets of a parasite. Without the parasite, they would drop dead. They are just dead meat suits.
User avatar
#56 - wertologist (07/14/2016) [-]
Again, this isn't a debate about yours and my views on their stance. The debate was on their motives. They do want more accessible Zombrex, but their main goal is zombie rights. It's even in their name.

C.U.R.E: Citizens for Undead Rights and Equality.

There is no question on what their main goal is. It's even kind of funny because they don't want experiments to be done on them, but also want zombrex to be cheaper. Without experimenting, they will never find a definite cure and they would only ever have a limited supply of zombrex. The whole scheme of the Fortune City outbreak was to harvest queens so they could keep making zombrex. Without queens, there is no zombrex. Without zombrex, people will turn. C.U.R.E is like peta. They have good intentions, but often do more harm than good and don't understand the consequences of getting what they want.

>get off your high horse
This isn't a superiority complex. That doesn't even make sense in this.

There is no dilemma either. Throughout all of two, it completely destroys any defense C.U.R.E had for "zombies are people too!". Zombies literally do not feel any emotion. They do not think. They only kill. They only resemble people because they were once people. They lost all humanity when they turned.

Again, this isn't a debate on our views on their stance. Stop trying to change the subject. It is completely irrelevant what our views are. The debate was what they protested for.