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#34 - anonymous poster (05/01/2013) [-]
I believe in self responsibility, taking responsibility for your own actions and not blaming them on anyone/anything else. Fuck all that psychology bullshit. I don't give a damn about their childhood, that's stupid as hell. All I hear are excuses. I'm in college now getting a degree in criminal justice so I hear about this shit all the time in my Criminology class. I don't agree with any of those theories that are used as excuses. People need to take responsibility for their own actions, it's no one else's fault but their own.
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#11 - Vandeekree (03/05/2013) [-]
Of course, that started with my parents when I was young. They taught me what was right and wrong and it was only as i began to grow up that I saw they were right. So now that I am of this age would it be wise to say "yup, now I'm an adult so everything I think must be right"?
As far as i can tell, no human is more omnipotent than me. We all walk around with limited perception and comparable brain power to process it all. So then what else is there to trust? The only answer I have found is to trust God. If this world is fair then there is a moral code left here for us to follow because how else are we to know what to even do? It's not something you can figure out for yourself unless God left that there for you to find and study. Would not that be most fair? But then what if that's wrong and there is no god? Then I will have lost nothing at all because the world is not fair, and if the world is not fair then there's little I can do about it.
So to summarize, I follow the best divinely inspired moral code I can find. There should only be one that is truly right, in order to find it, you simply need to look at as many as you can get your hands on and compare them because a just god would put the truth within your short sighted reach.
#14 - Vandeekree (03/05/2013) [-]
And that is just what i meant is the problem. You are good "by your definition" which is arbitrary and can change with the wind. That is why the foundation that is a moral code made for us by an omnipotent being is required.
And as far as slavery goes, biblical slavery was much different than modern slavery. You could not force someone into it, you could not kill your slave or you would be killed yourself, you couldn't leave a permanent mark on them such as knocking out a tooth nor an eye. Slavery back then was actually indentured servitude, mostly voluntary expect in the cases of parents selling their children into it but it wasn't a life long thing either. When you read that verse you misunderstand it, the bible is not saying "you can both own and beat your slaves" the bible does not actually condone slavery even in the indentured servitude sense, but it says "if you are going to own a slave, this is the limit of what you are allowed to do to them"
Those verses are there to protect workers from their bosses.
#17 - Vandeekree (03/05/2013) [-]
Sorry but I must point out the humorous hypocrisy in you calling Christianity hateful when you end you comment with "Fuck the bible, fuck god."
But like I said, you are misunderstanding the term slavery. Back then it did not mean what it does now. A slave agreed to the contract of working for the master, most often to get out of poverty, and was still considered a full citizen who was now contract bound and not allowed to break the contract and stop working until the agreed upon time was up. So the bible does not condone slavery, it condones contractual work agreements and then gives rules to limit how the owner of worker can treat his or her worker.
And i suppose i can agree that it is designed to manipulate but in the same way a mother manipulates her child into behaving or a father manipulates his offspring into being what he believes is an upstanding human being. If you really look at the bible it teaches things i don't think you can call disgusting. It tells you that above all else you should love others the same way you love yourself, seeing them as just as important. That you should be humble and empathetic. To never kill another human nor lie to them nor steal from them.
And it does cause fear, fear of not being a righteous person, fear that you are doing something wrong in your life, fear of the righteous and infallible judgement of God.
So let me ask you, are you fearless?
#21 - Vandeekree (03/06/2013) [-]
You do realize an educated guess requires at least some sort of backing right?
And yes, a just god does reward those who do what is right, and what is right is to worship that just god for creating you, giving you life, and most importantly for giving you the choice to worship him or not.
See, there are no good or bad deeds, only good or bad intentions. And part of doing good is doing it for the right reason.
You are right though, there is no reason to worry, you see if you are right, then you get nothing as a reward, but if you are wrong, you get a punishment. The worst i could get is the best you would. In that way, your beliefs are simply illogical unless you have some evidence to show me that proves there is nothing beyond this life.
#22 - ITDOITDO (03/06/2013) [-]
What? I'm illogical? because I don't believe in a magic man in the sky? If there were any and i mean any evidence that there was a god then i would take it seriously, but as we all know. There could just as easily be a flying spagitty monster floating through space. just because you cant prove there is no noodles in space does not mean there is any reason to believe there are.
#23 - Vandeekree (03/06/2013) [-]
There is evidence. The bible itself is evidence. It is a book written by God long ago and then amended by him again when Jesus came. There is no such text written by the noodle monster.
And magic is simply science we do not yet understand. Just because you don't understand how something could be is no reason to discount it.
#24 - ITDOITDO (03/06/2013) [-]
If you believe the bible can be taken as evidence then I have wasted my time even talking to you. The bible was written by MAN, passed around by MAN, changed and translated countless times to be manipulated into what it is today by... you guessed it MAN.
Do not reply, I will feel obliged to respond to you if you do but it is a massive waste of my time. The fact that people like you exist conflicts within me, I find you funny but I feel sorry for the planet if we are doomed to put up with people like you.
And not to mention, why just the bible? The Quran is supposedly the word of god, not your god but hey they must be wrong right? all other religions are wrong but yours right? Wrong you are incorrect please read your fucking bible again and if you can look deep within yourself and still say you are a Christian then I feel sorry for you
#25 - Vandeekree (03/06/2013) [-]
And you can mock all you want but you do not know that. It was written by a man(several of them) but they were divinely guided by God. You cannot, being a logical and thinking person, look at the bible, or the koran, or any other text, and say "well that's just silly because it falls out of my experiences."
And I have looked at the bible, and the koran, and some others, and why my studies are still on going, the one that stands out is the bible. It is superior in many ways which include the accuracy and truth of the prophesies it predicted, some of which have yet to come true. While not all are definitely provable, the ones that are have been proven and none have been disproved. The historical accuracy of the bible has not been disproved, only ever proven. And most importantly the moral message of the bible itself. All you atheists just default to ending the argument when the bible is brought up, and I can understand that, it's hard to argue against, but I'm not talking about the parts that have to be taken on faith because there's no way to proven or disprove them. I'm talking about that parts that have nothing to directly do with God, the ones that are simple comparison to the rest of the religious texts and to our current understanding of the world.
I have read the bible more so than any other religious text i admit, but it's hard not to when it's so perfect. I'm sure you've seen plenty of claims of contradiction in the bible, i have personally followed as many of these out to see what they claimed contradiction was and every one falls apart when looked at either in context or back at the original text, not the flawed English translations.
Lastly, no, i wouldn't say all other religions are wrong expect mine, i'd say all other religions are wrong except the right one. I could come upon reasons to drop Christianity and switch to another at some point, but i haven't, and the harder i search, the less reason i am finding to think i will ever need to switch.
#26 - ITDOITDO (03/06/2013) [-]
Dont tell me the bible is even historicaly accurate because its not, I dont want to have to waste my time on you any more. If you wish to live your life in a little bubble then do so but dont try and convince others you are sane in doing so.
So they were guided by god? bullshit how the fuck do you know? you dont your talking shit and for some reason im responding to you.
And all the loop holes and contradictions are still there, you just look at it in your god tinted glasses that your to thick to see it. I am not hateful, i come to this site to have a laugh but you keep banging on about your poxy religion, and assume what religion I am.
Nest you will tell me the world is only 5000 years old and a talking snake gave a woman an apple which pissed god off (why? fuck you thats why) and that jesus is coming tomorrow.
Simply because i cant prove there is no god does not prove there is one. I am god, until you can prove me wrong we will have to assume that i really am god.
Wait even better lets use Haruhi (atleast shes hot). the universe was created by a Japanese highschool girl who simply wished it to be so. And the anime and manga about her? thats our bible, thats her guiding us to tell us how everything came to be.
You know what im an brony and ive decided that Princess Celestia and Luna are our real gods. They rise the sun in the morning and then the moon at night. You cant prove im wrong so i mush be fucking right. And i tell you what, if the world did follow the morals of MLP rather than your idiotic religion we would be in a much better place.
#27 - Vandeekree (03/06/2013) [-]
While i don't think it's quite fair to get mad at me for reply after you asked me not too(you can stop replying as well you know) i would like to say that i fully understand your side. It only makes sense that, sense you can't read my mind, to take into account that i might have a bias. But in doing so you really should look at yourself to see if there are similar biases there. Though it's hard to prove without taking a lot of time to walk you through my studies, i do my absolute best to be unbiased. When reading any "holy" book i try to look at it from the point that this is wrong and needs to prove itself to me. That's what has taken me out of Christianity and back in again.
But please understand it is nothing short of insulting to say that i have looked at the same evidence as you and come to a different conclusion, so thus i must be in a bubble.
But your examples do not hold water because the inability to disprove something does not make it true(something i did not claim, please do not put words in my mouth)
Here is how it works, the burden of searching for proof is on you, it is your responsibility to seek out what is right, but the burden of proving itself is on the book you are reading, this is where(let's use your example) the amine Haruhi is in falls short, there is nothing to back it up. While, though you claim it doesn't, the bible has many such places where it gives evidence, the anime does not. When compared side by side, one falls short.
Not to provoke you into more debate which you are clearly not enjoying, but if you have a place in the bible where there is contradiction please tell me, i would enjoy researching and showing you why that's not right.
As far as the 500 year old Earth thing, i do not personally subscribe to it, but yes, the snake in a garden did communicate with Eve though i don't actually know how.
So to reiterate, please do not insult others just because they disagree with you, it comes off as crude.
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