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#109 - Well it depends on what that person was doing. If they were ju…  [+] (2 replies) 09/22/2013 on Guns 0
#110 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
no. you're wrong. you just are. owning a gun here DOES make you a criminal even if you do nothing with it but lick it and stroke it. and yes, that black person would be breaking the law. that law is wrong but the law is the law and disobeying it makes you a criminal. i think you may have a basic misunderstanding of what a criminal is.
a hell of a lot of things are illegal in all countries that don't harm anyone but the offender-drugs for example. also i think you would be hard pressed to argue that guns only harm their owners. a nuclear fucking bomb is just an object that can't act alone but i think you will agree that owning one should probably not be legal, and by the way most people here would consider owning a gun a heinous act.

in conclusion, owning a gun here IS a criminal offence which makes you, the owner of the gun, a criminal and it doesn't matter what you do with it. you can argue with that all you want but thats a fact and one which you seem to be struggling to underrstand. i wasn't trying to debate the rights and wrongs of gun ownership, i was simply making a joke about the fact they are illegal here.
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#112 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Guns shouldn't be illegal there because the banning of them has hurt your society.

If you believed in Liberty as I do, or examined the facts of barring citizens from guns you would be on my side.
#106 - No I wouldn't. I own guns, grew up around them, and know that …  [+] (4 replies) 09/22/2013 on Guns 0
#107 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
for fucks sake, none of that has anything to do with what i'm saying. i live in the UK, as indicated by the big fuck off union jack on my original comment. owning a gun here is illegal. therefore if you saw someone with a gun here you WOULD assume they are a criminal because owning a gun MAKES you a criminal. what are you not understanding?
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#109 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Well it depends on what that person was doing. If they were just shooting cans then he is not a criminal. If he is robbing someone he is a criminal. It all depends on the act, simply owning a gun(whether legal or not) is not harming anyone. An act that does not harm another individual should never be illegal. We can also rephrase the question. What about civil disobedience? How about the US era of the 1950's when a black person drank out of a whites only water fountain? Is he a criminal?

Mere gun ownership does not make someone a criminal. A gun is an object and cannot act alone. Performing heinous acts makes someone a criminal.
#110 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
no. you're wrong. you just are. owning a gun here DOES make you a criminal even if you do nothing with it but lick it and stroke it. and yes, that black person would be breaking the law. that law is wrong but the law is the law and disobeying it makes you a criminal. i think you may have a basic misunderstanding of what a criminal is.
a hell of a lot of things are illegal in all countries that don't harm anyone but the offender-drugs for example. also i think you would be hard pressed to argue that guns only harm their owners. a nuclear fucking bomb is just an object that can't act alone but i think you will agree that owning one should probably not be legal, and by the way most people here would consider owning a gun a heinous act.

in conclusion, owning a gun here IS a criminal offence which makes you, the owner of the gun, a criminal and it doesn't matter what you do with it. you can argue with that all you want but thats a fact and one which you seem to be struggling to underrstand. i wasn't trying to debate the rights and wrongs of gun ownership, i was simply making a joke about the fact they are illegal here.
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#112 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Guns shouldn't be illegal there because the banning of them has hurt your society.

If you believed in Liberty as I do, or examined the facts of barring citizens from guns you would be on my side.
#96 - Guns don't make someone a criminal thug. Being a criminal thug…  [+] (7 replies) 09/22/2013 on Guns 0
#102 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
seriously? i think you've missed the point. if you saw someone with a gun you would immediately assume they're a criminal because owning a gun makes you a criminal (usually)
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#106 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
No I wouldn't. I own guns, grew up around them, and know that responsible gun ownership is just fine. If citizens are allowed to own guns, criminals are deterred from robbing/murdering because an instant reactive force by the citizen can be imposed.

For example... If you had the choice of robbing a house in one of the following neighborhoods which would you choose? Everything is exactly the same in these neighborhoods except for one thing. One has very high gun ownership, say 75%, and the other has no gun ownership.

A: Neighborhood 1. 75% gun ownership
B: Neighborhood 2. 0% gun ownership

Which would you choose to rob?
#107 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
for fucks sake, none of that has anything to do with what i'm saying. i live in the UK, as indicated by the big fuck off union jack on my original comment. owning a gun here is illegal. therefore if you saw someone with a gun here you WOULD assume they are a criminal because owning a gun MAKES you a criminal. what are you not understanding?
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#109 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Well it depends on what that person was doing. If they were just shooting cans then he is not a criminal. If he is robbing someone he is a criminal. It all depends on the act, simply owning a gun(whether legal or not) is not harming anyone. An act that does not harm another individual should never be illegal. We can also rephrase the question. What about civil disobedience? How about the US era of the 1950's when a black person drank out of a whites only water fountain? Is he a criminal?

Mere gun ownership does not make someone a criminal. A gun is an object and cannot act alone. Performing heinous acts makes someone a criminal.
#110 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
no. you're wrong. you just are. owning a gun here DOES make you a criminal even if you do nothing with it but lick it and stroke it. and yes, that black person would be breaking the law. that law is wrong but the law is the law and disobeying it makes you a criminal. i think you may have a basic misunderstanding of what a criminal is.
a hell of a lot of things are illegal in all countries that don't harm anyone but the offender-drugs for example. also i think you would be hard pressed to argue that guns only harm their owners. a nuclear fucking bomb is just an object that can't act alone but i think you will agree that owning one should probably not be legal, and by the way most people here would consider owning a gun a heinous act.

in conclusion, owning a gun here IS a criminal offence which makes you, the owner of the gun, a criminal and it doesn't matter what you do with it. you can argue with that all you want but thats a fact and one which you seem to be struggling to underrstand. i wasn't trying to debate the rights and wrongs of gun ownership, i was simply making a joke about the fact they are illegal here.
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#112 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Guns shouldn't be illegal there because the banning of them has hurt your society.

If you believed in Liberty as I do, or examined the facts of barring citizens from guns you would be on my side.
#104 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
you know, because firearms are ilegal.
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