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#106 - No I wouldn't. I own guns, grew up around them, and know that …  [+] (4 new replies) 09/22/2013 on Guns 0
#107 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
for fucks sake, none of that has anything to do with what i'm saying. i live in the UK, as indicated by the big fuck off union jack on my original comment. owning a gun here is illegal. therefore if you saw someone with a gun here you WOULD assume they are a criminal because owning a gun MAKES you a criminal. what are you not understanding?
User avatar #109 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Well it depends on what that person was doing. If they were just shooting cans then he is not a criminal. If he is robbing someone he is a criminal. It all depends on the act, simply owning a gun(whether legal or not) is not harming anyone. An act that does not harm another individual should never be illegal. We can also rephrase the question. What about civil disobedience? How about the US era of the 1950's when a black person drank out of a whites only water fountain? Is he a criminal?

Mere gun ownership does not make someone a criminal. A gun is an object and cannot act alone. Performing heinous acts makes someone a criminal.
#110 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
no. you're wrong. you just are. owning a gun here DOES make you a criminal even if you do nothing with it but lick it and stroke it. and yes, that black person would be breaking the law. that law is wrong but the law is the law and disobeying it makes you a criminal. i think you may have a basic misunderstanding of what a criminal is.
a hell of a lot of things are illegal in all countries that don't harm anyone but the offender-drugs for example. also i think you would be hard pressed to argue that guns only harm their owners. a nuclear fucking bomb is just an object that can't act alone but i think you will agree that owning one should probably not be legal, and by the way most people here would consider owning a gun a heinous act.

in conclusion, owning a gun here IS a criminal offence which makes you, the owner of the gun, a criminal and it doesn't matter what you do with it. you can argue with that all you want but thats a fact and one which you seem to be struggling to underrstand. i wasn't trying to debate the rights and wrongs of gun ownership, i was simply making a joke about the fact they are illegal here.
User avatar #112 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Guns shouldn't be illegal there because the banning of them has hurt your society.

If you believed in Liberty as I do, or examined the facts of barring citizens from guns you would be on my side.
#100 - It is never fair when groups of people are barred from gun own… 09/22/2013 on Guns 0
#96 - Guns don't make someone a criminal thug. Being a criminal thug…  [+] (7 new replies) 09/22/2013 on Guns 0
#102 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
seriously? i think you've missed the point. if you saw someone with a gun you would immediately assume they're a criminal because owning a gun makes you a criminal (usually)
User avatar #106 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
No I wouldn't. I own guns, grew up around them, and know that responsible gun ownership is just fine. If citizens are allowed to own guns, criminals are deterred from robbing/murdering because an instant reactive force by the citizen can be imposed.

For example... If you had the choice of robbing a house in one of the following neighborhoods which would you choose? Everything is exactly the same in these neighborhoods except for one thing. One has very high gun ownership, say 75%, and the other has no gun ownership.

A: Neighborhood 1. 75% gun ownership
B: Neighborhood 2. 0% gun ownership

Which would you choose to rob?
#107 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
for fucks sake, none of that has anything to do with what i'm saying. i live in the UK, as indicated by the big fuck off union jack on my original comment. owning a gun here is illegal. therefore if you saw someone with a gun here you WOULD assume they are a criminal because owning a gun MAKES you a criminal. what are you not understanding?
User avatar #109 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Well it depends on what that person was doing. If they were just shooting cans then he is not a criminal. If he is robbing someone he is a criminal. It all depends on the act, simply owning a gun(whether legal or not) is not harming anyone. An act that does not harm another individual should never be illegal. We can also rephrase the question. What about civil disobedience? How about the US era of the 1950's when a black person drank out of a whites only water fountain? Is he a criminal?

Mere gun ownership does not make someone a criminal. A gun is an object and cannot act alone. Performing heinous acts makes someone a criminal.
#110 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
no. you're wrong. you just are. owning a gun here DOES make you a criminal even if you do nothing with it but lick it and stroke it. and yes, that black person would be breaking the law. that law is wrong but the law is the law and disobeying it makes you a criminal. i think you may have a basic misunderstanding of what a criminal is.
a hell of a lot of things are illegal in all countries that don't harm anyone but the offender-drugs for example. also i think you would be hard pressed to argue that guns only harm their owners. a nuclear fucking bomb is just an object that can't act alone but i think you will agree that owning one should probably not be legal, and by the way most people here would consider owning a gun a heinous act.

in conclusion, owning a gun here IS a criminal offence which makes you, the owner of the gun, a criminal and it doesn't matter what you do with it. you can argue with that all you want but thats a fact and one which you seem to be struggling to underrstand. i wasn't trying to debate the rights and wrongs of gun ownership, i was simply making a joke about the fact they are illegal here.
User avatar #112 - volleys (09/22/2013) [-]
Guns shouldn't be illegal there because the banning of them has hurt your society.

If you believed in Liberty as I do, or examined the facts of barring citizens from guns you would be on my side.
#104 - draxdiesel (09/22/2013) [-]
you know, because firearms are ilegal.
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#309 - That doesn't match up, $1.50 then =/= $20 now. 09/21/2013 on Comments (1) 0
#64 - "... **** ...!"- those feminist 09/20/2013 on 2spooky 0
#247 - How can those prices reflect minimum wage disadvantages? It's …  [+] (4 new replies) 09/20/2013 on Comments (1) +1
User avatar #260 - artistforlife (09/20/2013) [-]
Did you see the post yesterday, that said if the minimum wage had gone up with inflation starting from the 60's we'd all be making $20 an hour. So, yes it's due to inflation, but since they haven't been raising the minimum wage to match inflation, we're slowly being paid less, and less. If I remember correctly the minimum wage in the 60's was like $1.50 which is equivalent to $20 today, not the $7.25 we've been getting, or at least according to the post that made the front page yesterday.
User avatar #309 - volleys (09/21/2013) [-]
That doesn't match up, $1.50 then =/= $20 now.
User avatar #291 - deathleprechaun (09/20/2013) [-]
If you did a little research instead of blindly believing what people tell you you would know that $1.50 in the 60's is closer to $10 today.
User avatar #298 - artistforlife (09/20/2013) [-]
That's why I said "according to the post" because I didn't expect the post to be 100% accurate, in fact I expected it to be exaggerated to get the point across, but I didn't care enough to look it up myself, until heyabusa posted some links. I'm not even sure if $1.50 was the minimum wage back in the 60's, I got that from the post too. Either way I don't care for the specifics, I just find inflation interesting. btw according to the posts hayabusa posted $1 in 1960 is worth $7.80-7.90, each one is off by a few cents.
#91 - Correction you walk past 35 murderers in your lifetime. 09/20/2013 on fun indeed +1
#30 - His FW  [+] (1 new reply) 09/19/2013 on Play On +20
#47 - arcticassassin (09/19/2013) [-]
That was a loaded surprise
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#69 - Remember IQ tests are made by educated people about "book…  [+] (3 new replies) 09/16/2013 on Harvest +3
User avatar #93 - thebestpieever (09/16/2013) [-]
Not even book smarts, but IQ test smarts. Books require verbal agility and facility of language. IQ tests are usually graphical and wordless except for the explanation about the questions at the beginning of the test.
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#70 - schnizel (09/16/2013) [-]
Nigger please, asians are more inteligent than me and do you see me complaining?
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#872 - somberzeus (09/13/2013) [-]
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#31 - But a plate is also a tool no matter the form. A frisbee could… 09/12/2013 on Takeout +1
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#114 - You're not admin!  [+] (1 new reply) 09/12/2013 on Kapow +5
#137 - luigiyoshi (09/12/2013) [-]
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#227 - I was hinting at something. Don't you think it would've been g… 09/12/2013 on Evil exists. 0
#162 - Actually those Jehova's witnesses should have used self defens… 09/12/2013 on Evil exists. 0
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User avatar #3 - volleys (07/12/2013) [-]
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