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#366 - Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done…  [+] (7 new replies) 10/18/2013 on Letter to Congress 0
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
#363 - No, absolutely not. Have you not heard of the distribution of …  [+] (9 new replies) 10/18/2013 on Letter to Congress 0
User avatar #364 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
dictatorships get things done.
User avatar #366 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done. Huh? What about Hitler, Stalin, Mae Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Sadam Hussein.

Giving that much power to one person is asking for trouble.
Dictatorships kill people.
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
#350 - You missed the whole point entirely. In fact, I want the compl…  [+] (11 new replies) 10/17/2013 on Letter to Congress 0
User avatar #351 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
other countries with less power in their governments aren't as fucked up as we are right now. but by dictatorship, I am talking about when FDR was in charge and he basically had all parts of the government under his control. what is the point of having a president, if he doesn't have the power to settle the deadlock between the 2 houses.
User avatar #363 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
No, absolutely not. Have you not heard of the distribution of powers? This is so one majority cannot have too much power. Power breeds corruption don't you know?

And by the way FDR was the one who placed Japanese US citizens in intern camps (woefully unconstitutional) so now do you believe that power needs to be concentrated?
User avatar #364 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
dictatorships get things done.
User avatar #366 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done. Huh? What about Hitler, Stalin, Mae Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Sadam Hussein.

Giving that much power to one person is asking for trouble.
Dictatorships kill people.
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
#319 - Basic history will tell you why the Legislative branch is spli…  [+] (14 new replies) 10/17/2013 on Letter to Congress 0
User avatar #328 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
some may argue that the president may have the ability to ignore congress and house of reps according to section 4 of the 14th amendment. Personally I think it is a bit of a stretch. There just needs to be some sort of fail safe to guard against a government shut down due to the two houses not getting along. If government fails this much, they really shouldn't be meddling in the economy. all I am saying is that when one part of the government is broken, there should be something from the 2 other parts that should fix it. I doubt we can as a whole since humans tend to disagree. You sure are convincing me that America should become a dictatorship.
User avatar #350 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
You missed the whole point entirely. In fact, I want the complete opposite of a dictatorship. Less power needs to be placed in government. It has nothing to do with the 2 houses disagreeing, it just so happens that they disagree at this moment. Republicans tend to disagree with Democrats, its just that simple.

TL;DR Because the government disagrees so much and makes situations worse, less government and more free enterprise is needed.
User avatar #351 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
other countries with less power in their governments aren't as fucked up as we are right now. but by dictatorship, I am talking about when FDR was in charge and he basically had all parts of the government under his control. what is the point of having a president, if he doesn't have the power to settle the deadlock between the 2 houses.
User avatar #363 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
No, absolutely not. Have you not heard of the distribution of powers? This is so one majority cannot have too much power. Power breeds corruption don't you know?

And by the way FDR was the one who placed Japanese US citizens in intern camps (woefully unconstitutional) so now do you believe that power needs to be concentrated?
User avatar #364 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
dictatorships get things done.
User avatar #366 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done. Huh? What about Hitler, Stalin, Mae Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Sadam Hussein.

Giving that much power to one person is asking for trouble.
Dictatorships kill people.
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
User avatar #326 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
I was being rhetorical on why they wanted 2 houses. but it was a bad move that is causing a lot of problems now. It was a quick fix back then that is causing a huge rift in the government now
#277 - Dammit can't you look up anything? They didn't cause it, thoug…  [+] (17 new replies) 10/16/2013 on Letter to Congress 0
User avatar #291 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
Do you think the people should get the supreme court involved and sue both Congress and the House? there is a deadlock and we can't wait that long for them to fix it. we just need it done.
User avatar #282 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
why is the legislative branch separated into two parts in the first place. Personally, I think it was just asking for trouble. Shit is too heavily divided. sometimes a dictatorship might be better. Our government has multiple personality disorder. Boehner admitted that it was his party's fault. He didn't want to do this, but the extremists in the party pushed him to go for it. Even the Republicans are heavily divided.
User avatar #319 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
Basic history will tell you why the Legislative branch is split into two parts, this again shows your severe lack of researching skills.
Sue the House and Senate? Are you crazy? This activity isn't illegal.
When a government becomes so large and has extended its reach far beyond its scope, a shutdown only proves that less government and more free enterprise is needed to produce a better economic environment.
User avatar #328 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
some may argue that the president may have the ability to ignore congress and house of reps according to section 4 of the 14th amendment. Personally I think it is a bit of a stretch. There just needs to be some sort of fail safe to guard against a government shut down due to the two houses not getting along. If government fails this much, they really shouldn't be meddling in the economy. all I am saying is that when one part of the government is broken, there should be something from the 2 other parts that should fix it. I doubt we can as a whole since humans tend to disagree. You sure are convincing me that America should become a dictatorship.
User avatar #350 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
You missed the whole point entirely. In fact, I want the complete opposite of a dictatorship. Less power needs to be placed in government. It has nothing to do with the 2 houses disagreeing, it just so happens that they disagree at this moment. Republicans tend to disagree with Democrats, its just that simple.

TL;DR Because the government disagrees so much and makes situations worse, less government and more free enterprise is needed.
User avatar #351 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
other countries with less power in their governments aren't as fucked up as we are right now. but by dictatorship, I am talking about when FDR was in charge and he basically had all parts of the government under his control. what is the point of having a president, if he doesn't have the power to settle the deadlock between the 2 houses.
User avatar #363 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
No, absolutely not. Have you not heard of the distribution of powers? This is so one majority cannot have too much power. Power breeds corruption don't you know?

And by the way FDR was the one who placed Japanese US citizens in intern camps (woefully unconstitutional) so now do you believe that power needs to be concentrated?
User avatar #364 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
dictatorships get things done.
User avatar #366 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done. Huh? What about Hitler, Stalin, Mae Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Sadam Hussein.

Giving that much power to one person is asking for trouble.
Dictatorships kill people.
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
User avatar #326 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
I was being rhetorical on why they wanted 2 houses. but it was a bad move that is causing a lot of problems now. It was a quick fix back then that is causing a huge rift in the government now
#248 - You automatically assume because I didn't agree with your stat…  [+] (19 new replies) 10/16/2013 on Letter to Congress 0
User avatar #266 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
good. as long as you aren't a tea party member. they are crazy. for this particular instance, they are to blame for triggering it.
User avatar #277 - volleys (10/16/2013) [-]
Dammit can't you look up anything? They didn't cause it, though you could partially blame them for not giving in to the Democrats demands.

Lets look at it step by step.
The House has the power of crafting funding bills (our current House is Republican led)
The Senate only has to approve/reject these bills (they and the White House are Democrat led)
So 2/3 of our federal government are Democrat led
1. The House crafted 3 bills in total to fund the government, which the senate rejected every time.
2. The first bill funded everything, but Obamacare. Senate rejected it.
3. The second bill funded everything, but delayed Obamacare for a year. Senate again rejected it.
4. The third bill funded everything, but delayed the individual mandate for every American to purchase healthcare for a year. As you guessed it, Senate rejected it.

Now you tell me who seems more likely to have shut down the government. The Republicans who changed their bill 3 times, or the Democrats who didn't negotiate on anything.
User avatar #291 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
Do you think the people should get the supreme court involved and sue both Congress and the House? there is a deadlock and we can't wait that long for them to fix it. we just need it done.
User avatar #282 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
why is the legislative branch separated into two parts in the first place. Personally, I think it was just asking for trouble. Shit is too heavily divided. sometimes a dictatorship might be better. Our government has multiple personality disorder. Boehner admitted that it was his party's fault. He didn't want to do this, but the extremists in the party pushed him to go for it. Even the Republicans are heavily divided.
User avatar #319 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
Basic history will tell you why the Legislative branch is split into two parts, this again shows your severe lack of researching skills.
Sue the House and Senate? Are you crazy? This activity isn't illegal.
When a government becomes so large and has extended its reach far beyond its scope, a shutdown only proves that less government and more free enterprise is needed to produce a better economic environment.
User avatar #328 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
some may argue that the president may have the ability to ignore congress and house of reps according to section 4 of the 14th amendment. Personally I think it is a bit of a stretch. There just needs to be some sort of fail safe to guard against a government shut down due to the two houses not getting along. If government fails this much, they really shouldn't be meddling in the economy. all I am saying is that when one part of the government is broken, there should be something from the 2 other parts that should fix it. I doubt we can as a whole since humans tend to disagree. You sure are convincing me that America should become a dictatorship.
User avatar #350 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
You missed the whole point entirely. In fact, I want the complete opposite of a dictatorship. Less power needs to be placed in government. It has nothing to do with the 2 houses disagreeing, it just so happens that they disagree at this moment. Republicans tend to disagree with Democrats, its just that simple.

TL;DR Because the government disagrees so much and makes situations worse, less government and more free enterprise is needed.
User avatar #351 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
other countries with less power in their governments aren't as fucked up as we are right now. but by dictatorship, I am talking about when FDR was in charge and he basically had all parts of the government under his control. what is the point of having a president, if he doesn't have the power to settle the deadlock between the 2 houses.
User avatar #363 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
No, absolutely not. Have you not heard of the distribution of powers? This is so one majority cannot have too much power. Power breeds corruption don't you know?

And by the way FDR was the one who placed Japanese US citizens in intern camps (woefully unconstitutional) so now do you believe that power needs to be concentrated?
User avatar #364 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
dictatorships get things done.
User avatar #366 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done. Huh? What about Hitler, Stalin, Mae Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Sadam Hussein.

Giving that much power to one person is asking for trouble.
Dictatorships kill people.
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
User avatar #326 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
I was being rhetorical on why they wanted 2 houses. but it was a bad move that is causing a lot of problems now. It was a quick fix back then that is causing a huge rift in the government now
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#234 - gewehr (10/16/2013) [-]
A lot of fat needs to be cut from the budget, sure, but if they default, it screws over the citizens a hell of a lot more than it does anything to them. Thousands of people losing a paycheck and the US losing half of it's government institutions is not in any way worth them learning a lesson.
User avatar #237 - volleys (10/16/2013) [-]
You're right that it may not be the best way, but its long over due. We don't need all these harmful welfare programs which consumes almost half of the federal budget, we don't need all this extravagant military budget fighting needless wars, we don't need all this foreign aid, we don't need subsidies, we don't need unsuccessful federal education programs, we don't need most of government spending. All this harms the taxpayer, which only harms everyone. Get rid of un-successful government and the well-being of every citizen will improve drastically.
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I'm not saying they can't do it, or that it's illegal, and I don't think Obamacare is a good thing, but what will happen to our country if we default on our debt is a hell of a lot worse than what Obamacare will do.
User avatar #228 - volleys (10/16/2013) [-]
I actually think we should default. It's about time they see what uncontrolled spending creates. Get rid of the un-necessary.
#234 - gewehr (10/16/2013) [-]
A lot of fat needs to be cut from the budget, sure, but if they default, it screws over the citizens a hell of a lot more than it does anything to them. Thousands of people losing a paycheck and the US losing half of it's government institutions is not in any way worth them learning a lesson.
User avatar #237 - volleys (10/16/2013) [-]
You're right that it may not be the best way, but its long over due. We don't need all these harmful welfare programs which consumes almost half of the federal budget, we don't need all this extravagant military budget fighting needless wars, we don't need all this foreign aid, we don't need subsidies, we don't need unsuccessful federal education programs, we don't need most of government spending. All this harms the taxpayer, which only harms everyone. Get rid of un-successful government and the well-being of every citizen will improve drastically.
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User avatar #243 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
Voting out the tea party is the quickest fix. the problem is that we have 2 conflicting sides with equal power. Tea party is full of the biggest extremists with views I absolutely do not support. I am an independent, but the Tea Party alienates a lot of people with their extremism. I have things I am conservative about, but I am not that extreme. George Washington predicted this. Political parties are a bad idea. Which is why I am independent. I normally vote according to each person's views. So on the ballet, I look up each person before I vote. It does takes more time, but since I mail in my ballot I believe it is well worth it. I could just blame you and people like you who stick to voting along party lines, since you like blaming Democrats or the others that blame Republicans. I blame the extremists within the party
User avatar #248 - volleys (10/16/2013) [-]
You automatically assume because I didn't agree with your statement that I am a Tea Party member. I'm registered independent, but side with Libertarians on most issues. (We absolutely cannot blame them) Sounds like you don't do a whole lot of research if you believe the Tea Party is to blame for the shut down. And for extremism, you don't think that the Democrats have just as much extremist. Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein hello! Personally I think it great that we have as much gridlock as we do, it prevents many harmful laws from being created.
User avatar #266 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
good. as long as you aren't a tea party member. they are crazy. for this particular instance, they are to blame for triggering it.
User avatar #277 - volleys (10/16/2013) [-]
Dammit can't you look up anything? They didn't cause it, though you could partially blame them for not giving in to the Democrats demands.

Lets look at it step by step.
The House has the power of crafting funding bills (our current House is Republican led)
The Senate only has to approve/reject these bills (they and the White House are Democrat led)
So 2/3 of our federal government are Democrat led
1. The House crafted 3 bills in total to fund the government, which the senate rejected every time.
2. The first bill funded everything, but Obamacare. Senate rejected it.
3. The second bill funded everything, but delayed Obamacare for a year. Senate again rejected it.
4. The third bill funded everything, but delayed the individual mandate for every American to purchase healthcare for a year. As you guessed it, Senate rejected it.

Now you tell me who seems more likely to have shut down the government. The Republicans who changed their bill 3 times, or the Democrats who didn't negotiate on anything.
User avatar #291 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
Do you think the people should get the supreme court involved and sue both Congress and the House? there is a deadlock and we can't wait that long for them to fix it. we just need it done.
User avatar #282 - zeroxnight (10/16/2013) [-]
why is the legislative branch separated into two parts in the first place. Personally, I think it was just asking for trouble. Shit is too heavily divided. sometimes a dictatorship might be better. Our government has multiple personality disorder. Boehner admitted that it was his party's fault. He didn't want to do this, but the extremists in the party pushed him to go for it. Even the Republicans are heavily divided.
User avatar #319 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
Basic history will tell you why the Legislative branch is split into two parts, this again shows your severe lack of researching skills.
Sue the House and Senate? Are you crazy? This activity isn't illegal.
When a government becomes so large and has extended its reach far beyond its scope, a shutdown only proves that less government and more free enterprise is needed to produce a better economic environment.
User avatar #328 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
some may argue that the president may have the ability to ignore congress and house of reps according to section 4 of the 14th amendment. Personally I think it is a bit of a stretch. There just needs to be some sort of fail safe to guard against a government shut down due to the two houses not getting along. If government fails this much, they really shouldn't be meddling in the economy. all I am saying is that when one part of the government is broken, there should be something from the 2 other parts that should fix it. I doubt we can as a whole since humans tend to disagree. You sure are convincing me that America should become a dictatorship.
User avatar #350 - volleys (10/17/2013) [-]
You missed the whole point entirely. In fact, I want the complete opposite of a dictatorship. Less power needs to be placed in government. It has nothing to do with the 2 houses disagreeing, it just so happens that they disagree at this moment. Republicans tend to disagree with Democrats, its just that simple.

TL;DR Because the government disagrees so much and makes situations worse, less government and more free enterprise is needed.
User avatar #351 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
other countries with less power in their governments aren't as fucked up as we are right now. but by dictatorship, I am talking about when FDR was in charge and he basically had all parts of the government under his control. what is the point of having a president, if he doesn't have the power to settle the deadlock between the 2 houses.
User avatar #363 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
No, absolutely not. Have you not heard of the distribution of powers? This is so one majority cannot have too much power. Power breeds corruption don't you know?

And by the way FDR was the one who placed Japanese US citizens in intern camps (woefully unconstitutional) so now do you believe that power needs to be concentrated?
User avatar #364 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
dictatorships get things done.
User avatar #366 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
Let's think about what you said. Dictatorships get things done. Huh? What about Hitler, Stalin, Mae Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Sadam Hussein.

Giving that much power to one person is asking for trouble.
Dictatorships kill people.
User avatar #368 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
Hitler and most of Germany wanted the Jews to die. They got it done. Killing people is just a part of this world. People die. some sooner than others. when dictatorships are in place, crime is at a low. with the right people involved the economy would prosper under their leadership. Germany and the US quickly recovered from their economic collapse just moments after FDR and Hitler came into power. With one power and unity with the people, things get done. But with one power and the people not unified with the leader, shit becomes chaos like most dictatorships out there now. The lack of control on the economy leads to the businessmen playing with the stock market in a way that would lead us to downfall and that happened twice. the depression and the recession was caused by greedy businessmen that inflated the stocks and quickly sold it and made a profit out of inside information causing a domino effect. 2 times that happened. Although our recession had 2 things involved such as the people themselves taking too many house loans for houses they couldn't afford. the human population is stupid as a whole and the chaos needs to be controlled. but when the ones that are supposed to control the chaos are in chaos. that is when a dictator rises according to history. only because we need it and we let it happen. I would give it 50 years before that really happens if our government is this split apart.
User avatar #369 - volleys (10/18/2013) [-]
So you are forgiving Hitler for killing the Jews by his economic success?

Here's a question. Lets say you have someone that you absolutely love in office and you give him ultimate power. That power then stays with that position and someone gets elected that you do not like. He then uses that power and harms millions of people. Should that power remain? How would you feel if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany?

And again on the Great Depression and Recession you are wrong. The market did not cause those collapses. Right before our last recession, the federal reserve pumped in tons of money which created tremendous inflation. It is fairly similar for the Great Depression. The Federal Reserve mandated that all banks remain closed for a set amount of time, this made the situation far worse.
And to make things worse, every time the economy does well the Federal Reserve report always claims that the Federal Reserve is the main component to economic success. Every time the economy does not do well, the Federal Reserve Report claims that the market is to blame for economic failure. Doesn't that sound odd?
User avatar #370 - zeroxnight (10/18/2013) [-]
on the scale of things, i don't consider human beings all that important in the long run. no matter what dictatorship there is, the people have the true power. Make the people want a certain thing and they will go get it. you just have to make them want it a certain way. we all want the economy to do well, we all just have different preferences on how they want it.
User avatar #371 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
People do not have power under a dictatorship.

Let the market be free and people will buy things they deem necessary/desire and the economy will grow.
User avatar #372 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
supposedly. there is no power without people. brainwashed or not, without the support of people even in a country ruled by fear there is no power.
User avatar #373 - volleys (10/19/2013) [-]
Tell that to the North Koreans, they can't eat unless they join the military.
User avatar #374 - zeroxnight (10/19/2013) [-]
and it would not happen unless the people believe the kim family to be the greatest. fear and manipulation is one way to gain the support of the people. the people there are weak willed and let them do it.
User avatar #326 - zeroxnight (10/17/2013) [-]
I was being rhetorical on why they wanted 2 houses. but it was a bad move that is causing a lot of problems now. It was a quick fix back then that is causing a huge rift in the government now
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