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#210 - I don't hate fat people. But calling obesity a disease is ridi…  [+] (8 new replies) 06/21/2013 on Here we go again 0
#211 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
what disease can you do nothing about and have it just get better? Anything that did that would not be a disease.

many diseases get better when treated, that doesnt make them any less a disease.

Aids was a choice to have unprotected sex, aka a lifestyle choice. Tetanus was a choice to pick up a rusty object.

a disease being preventable doesn't make it not a disease. Malaria is preventable if you avoid tropical areas and mosquitos, this goes for all catch-able diseases.

Definition of disease: "an impairment of the normal state of the living animal or plant body or one of its parts that interrupts or modifies the performance of the vital functions, is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms, and is a response to environmental factors (as malnutrition, industrial hazards, or climate), to specific infective agents (as worms, bacteria, or viruses), to inherent defects of the organism (as genetic anomalies), or to combinations of these factors"

obesity fits that therefore it can be classified as a disease. I dont see how calling it one is ridiculous. Malnutrition is a disease, so is obesity.
User avatar #212 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not saying a disease has to be caught or born with. It also seems as though by that definition that being paralyzed. And who knows what normal is to people. Normal is a relative term, something normal for me might seem crazy to you. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you because you did do research on the definition. I'm just disagreeing that the term "disease" seems too broad.
User avatar #213 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
fair enough.

I think we need to do something about the fatties. By classifying it as a serious problem maybe more will be done to try to make our society less fat-producing. Things like removing corn subsidies, encouraging exercise, educating people on healthy eating, having containers list their total calories (not just serving sizes that noone follows,) etc.

I dont have the solutions, but fuck we need to do something.
User avatar #214 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, being overweight should be considered a health risk if its not already. It's a hard problem to tackle because (not to be rude or anything) its not my problem that they are fat.
#215 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
well somewhat its not your problem. But their health costs us all in health care costs, insurance, etc. A generation of americans will live shorter lives than their parents, and that is a problem for all of us. In addition if there arent enough fit people we wont have an effective army.

Mostly i dont want to look at them or listen to the europeans call us fatties >.<
imagine when every girl you talk to is this

User avatar #216 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, thats somewhat true. Especially if this Obamacare gets started we'll be paying for everyone, so then we should regulate it I guess. Although I'm usually totally against all regulations because they end up costing more than they prevent.
User avatar #217 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
we already pay for it. You think insurance companies dont pass on the cost of fat people to you under private healthcare?

regulations are one thing, but encouraging healthy habits is another.
User avatar #218 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Oh yeah, I was meaning it would cost even more.
#49 - 30 yards is not hard to hit with a BB gun 06/21/2013 on My Grandpa -1
#221 - No its not. Most accidental firearm discharges with children, … 06/21/2013 on Is it in 0
#204 - You are forgetting that someone pays for TV service. Yes some … 06/21/2013 on Piracy -1
#134 - I agree, it should be common sense. Lets say someone has a chi… 06/21/2013 on Is it in +1
#249 - Exactly. Most of those liberals, along with many other people,… 06/21/2013 on Don't mess with Texas.... +2
#179 - A disease is typically something that can spread or is unavoid…  [+] (10 new replies) 06/21/2013 on Here we go again 0
User avatar #208 - sanguinesolitude (06/21/2013) [-]
there are many diseases that do not fit your description. alcoholism is quite similar to obesity including an addictive component and lifestyle choices.

Many other diseases like lung cancer, heart disease, gout, kidney stones, etc. (literally hundreds more) result from dietary choices or smoking and lack of excercise. Do these count as diseases.

just because you hate fat people (and i dont entirely disagree) doesn't mean that the serious medical problem of obesity shouldn't be classified as a disease.
User avatar #210 - volleys (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't hate fat people. But calling obesity a disease is ridiculous. It makes these fat people think they can do nothing about it and won't become more fit. AIDS is a disease, being obese is not. Once you have AIDS it doesn't go away(as far as we know). I don't agree that alcoholism is a disease, although it is classified as one. It was a choice, and ultimately an addiction that dramatically changed their lives. Now heart disease and kidney stones can be diseases because it can family related, not that being over weight cant, but being over weight can be preventable as can some effects of heart disease can be prolonged. I could be totally wrong as I'm no expert as these are my opinions.
#211 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
what disease can you do nothing about and have it just get better? Anything that did that would not be a disease.

many diseases get better when treated, that doesnt make them any less a disease.

Aids was a choice to have unprotected sex, aka a lifestyle choice. Tetanus was a choice to pick up a rusty object.

a disease being preventable doesn't make it not a disease. Malaria is preventable if you avoid tropical areas and mosquitos, this goes for all catch-able diseases.

Definition of disease: "an impairment of the normal state of the living animal or plant body or one of its parts that interrupts or modifies the performance of the vital functions, is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms, and is a response to environmental factors (as malnutrition, industrial hazards, or climate), to specific infective agents (as worms, bacteria, or viruses), to inherent defects of the organism (as genetic anomalies), or to combinations of these factors"

obesity fits that therefore it can be classified as a disease. I dont see how calling it one is ridiculous. Malnutrition is a disease, so is obesity.
User avatar #212 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not saying a disease has to be caught or born with. It also seems as though by that definition that being paralyzed. And who knows what normal is to people. Normal is a relative term, something normal for me might seem crazy to you. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you because you did do research on the definition. I'm just disagreeing that the term "disease" seems too broad.
User avatar #213 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
fair enough.

I think we need to do something about the fatties. By classifying it as a serious problem maybe more will be done to try to make our society less fat-producing. Things like removing corn subsidies, encouraging exercise, educating people on healthy eating, having containers list their total calories (not just serving sizes that noone follows,) etc.

I dont have the solutions, but fuck we need to do something.
User avatar #214 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, being overweight should be considered a health risk if its not already. It's a hard problem to tackle because (not to be rude or anything) its not my problem that they are fat.
#215 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
well somewhat its not your problem. But their health costs us all in health care costs, insurance, etc. A generation of americans will live shorter lives than their parents, and that is a problem for all of us. In addition if there arent enough fit people we wont have an effective army.

Mostly i dont want to look at them or listen to the europeans call us fatties >.<
imagine when every girl you talk to is this

User avatar #216 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, thats somewhat true. Especially if this Obamacare gets started we'll be paying for everyone, so then we should regulate it I guess. Although I'm usually totally against all regulations because they end up costing more than they prevent.
User avatar #217 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
we already pay for it. You think insurance companies dont pass on the cost of fat people to you under private healthcare?

regulations are one thing, but encouraging healthy habits is another.
User avatar #218 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Oh yeah, I was meaning it would cost even more.
#45 - Technically it is theft. If you copied a car like it says in t…  [+] (6 new replies) 06/20/2013 on Piracy +5
#181 - Womens Study Major (06/21/2013) [-]
How is it theft if the only way you know a theft occured is by catching the alledged "thief". If you get robbed you know what items are missing whether or not you know who robbed you. This is the problem, the fact that your items, (which have no exact copies on earth, there are many similar but no one is the exact same item), are scarce and only one person at one time can use them (the person controlling the remote is the only one controlling the TV although others can still watch with them they ultimately own the consumption of that TV). Information, knowledge, ideas, and other things lumped under intellectual "property" laws are not scarce, (I can consume , or use, the knowledge that 2+2=4 to determine that 2 pounds of dirt and 2 pounds of water will make 4 pounds of sludge while you simultaneously determine that 2 dimes plus 2 dimes equals 4 dimes. Because any piece of information can be simultaneously consumed, it cannot be owned.
User avatar #204 - volleys (06/21/2013) [-]
You are forgetting that someone pays for TV service. Yes some things are shared, but last I recalled no one owns 2+2=4.
#59 - evebishop (06/20/2013) [-]
Getting an illegal or pirated version of say a video game, means the game company makes less money and that impacts the people who put in hours and hours to make the games you love. The companies will suffer because they make less profit but the workers are the ones that will suffer first.

On a side note, I think the video game companies are charging way too much for junk games....
#98 - Womens Study Major (06/21/2013) [-]
did you know these people would almost never buy a copy of said game even if they were never able to pirate it.
#61 - admiralamory has deleted their comment.
User avatar #63 - evebishop (06/20/2013) [-]
They are also spending way too much on producing games, it seems like 80% of the money goes into graphics and I mean I like the awesome graphics but so many games have had junk stories lately... remember when 8-16bit games came out and were done for dirt cheap but had tons of personality and great stories?
#29 - And this is why kids need to be taught gun safety.  [+] (6 new replies) 06/20/2013 on Is it in +8
#195 - Womens Study Major (06/21/2013) [-]
Thats why you need to keep guns away from children
User avatar #221 - volleys (06/21/2013) [-]
No its not. Most accidental firearm discharges with children, not to mention many adults, occur from them not knowing how to safely and properly operate the weapon. Children are naturally curious, so showing them how it works and that it can be very dangerous prevents accidents. It appeases their natural curiosity.
User avatar #101 - botherandbefuddle (06/21/2013) [-]
It doesn't take a very smart person to know that pointing a gun at your face isn't a good idea.
User avatar #134 - volleys (06/21/2013) [-]
I agree, it should be common sense. Lets say someone has a child. That child, especially if it was a boy, would naturally be curious if they found a gun. Most accidental shootings occur from the lack of knowledge associated with firearms, if these children are taught taught that these weapons are very dangerous and how they operate many accidents would be avoided.
User avatar #108 - thebannedzombie (06/21/2013) [-]
Practicing gun safety makes it a reflex, rather than common sense.
User avatar #36 - fazza (06/20/2013) [-]
In britain we can really have guns
#37 - Thats exactly the point of CCW laws. A criminals best friend i… 06/20/2013 on Don't mess with Texas.... +1
#36 - What exactly is retarded about Texans allowing citizens to con… 06/20/2013 on Don't mess with Texas.... +4
#110 - A disease? Are you serious?  [+] (12 new replies) 06/20/2013 on Here we go again 0
User avatar #128 - sanguinesolitude (06/20/2013) [-]
yep. it causes health issues and is treatable, its pretty much a disease.
User avatar #179 - volleys (06/21/2013) [-]
A disease is typically something that can spread or is unavoidable. Of course some people, often rare cases, possess genes causing them to be heavy set.
User avatar #208 - sanguinesolitude (06/21/2013) [-]
there are many diseases that do not fit your description. alcoholism is quite similar to obesity including an addictive component and lifestyle choices.

Many other diseases like lung cancer, heart disease, gout, kidney stones, etc. (literally hundreds more) result from dietary choices or smoking and lack of excercise. Do these count as diseases.

just because you hate fat people (and i dont entirely disagree) doesn't mean that the serious medical problem of obesity shouldn't be classified as a disease.
User avatar #210 - volleys (06/21/2013) [-]
I don't hate fat people. But calling obesity a disease is ridiculous. It makes these fat people think they can do nothing about it and won't become more fit. AIDS is a disease, being obese is not. Once you have AIDS it doesn't go away(as far as we know). I don't agree that alcoholism is a disease, although it is classified as one. It was a choice, and ultimately an addiction that dramatically changed their lives. Now heart disease and kidney stones can be diseases because it can family related, not that being over weight cant, but being over weight can be preventable as can some effects of heart disease can be prolonged. I could be totally wrong as I'm no expert as these are my opinions.
#211 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
what disease can you do nothing about and have it just get better? Anything that did that would not be a disease.

many diseases get better when treated, that doesnt make them any less a disease.

Aids was a choice to have unprotected sex, aka a lifestyle choice. Tetanus was a choice to pick up a rusty object.

a disease being preventable doesn't make it not a disease. Malaria is preventable if you avoid tropical areas and mosquitos, this goes for all catch-able diseases.

Definition of disease: "an impairment of the normal state of the living animal or plant body or one of its parts that interrupts or modifies the performance of the vital functions, is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms, and is a response to environmental factors (as malnutrition, industrial hazards, or climate), to specific infective agents (as worms, bacteria, or viruses), to inherent defects of the organism (as genetic anomalies), or to combinations of these factors"

obesity fits that therefore it can be classified as a disease. I dont see how calling it one is ridiculous. Malnutrition is a disease, so is obesity.
User avatar #212 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
I'm not saying a disease has to be caught or born with. It also seems as though by that definition that being paralyzed. And who knows what normal is to people. Normal is a relative term, something normal for me might seem crazy to you. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you because you did do research on the definition. I'm just disagreeing that the term "disease" seems too broad.
User avatar #213 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
fair enough.

I think we need to do something about the fatties. By classifying it as a serious problem maybe more will be done to try to make our society less fat-producing. Things like removing corn subsidies, encouraging exercise, educating people on healthy eating, having containers list their total calories (not just serving sizes that noone follows,) etc.

I dont have the solutions, but fuck we need to do something.
User avatar #214 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, being overweight should be considered a health risk if its not already. It's a hard problem to tackle because (not to be rude or anything) its not my problem that they are fat.
#215 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
well somewhat its not your problem. But their health costs us all in health care costs, insurance, etc. A generation of americans will live shorter lives than their parents, and that is a problem for all of us. In addition if there arent enough fit people we wont have an effective army.

Mostly i dont want to look at them or listen to the europeans call us fatties >.<
imagine when every girl you talk to is this

User avatar #216 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Yeah, thats somewhat true. Especially if this Obamacare gets started we'll be paying for everyone, so then we should regulate it I guess. Although I'm usually totally against all regulations because they end up costing more than they prevent.
User avatar #217 - sanguinesolitude (06/22/2013) [-]
we already pay for it. You think insurance companies dont pass on the cost of fat people to you under private healthcare?

regulations are one thing, but encouraging healthy habits is another.
User avatar #218 - volleys (06/22/2013) [-]
Oh yeah, I was meaning it would cost even more.
#138 - Trust me some people like me are working on it. 06/19/2013 on Scumbag America -1
#164 - Oh **** ! 06/18/2013 on Zoom in. 0
#102 - Technically Canada is not doing good with their healthcare system.  [+] (2 new replies) 06/17/2013 on Canada +1
#104 - thisdickk (06/17/2013) [-]
how about you healthcare these nuts in your face.
User avatar #153 - yunablade (06/17/2013) [-]
I doubt this guy is Canadian.

He didn't even apologized.
#240 - They aren't supposed to according to the 4th amendment, howeve… 06/16/2013 on Obongo -1
#223 - That has nothing to do with a private life. The government doe…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/14/2013 on Obongo -1
User avatar #236 - inyourmind (06/15/2013) [-]
They can not view or listen to emails or calls of U.S. citizens without a warrant. They merely collect them.
User avatar #240 - volleys (06/16/2013) [-]
They aren't supposed to according to the 4th amendment, however I do not trust the government to collect my calls and emails.
#7 - Don't I have the right to live a private life??  [+] (4 new replies) 06/13/2013 on Obongo -1
User avatar #8 - inyourmind (06/13/2013) [-]
only so long as you stay on your property and do not make use of any public land or services. AKA no you do not and never have you.
User avatar #223 - volleys (06/14/2013) [-]
That has nothing to do with a private life. The government doesn't need to monitor my emails or calls. Some people say "If I do nothing bad I have nothing to hide." Even if you haven't done something bad, I still do not want people knowing some things.
User avatar #236 - inyourmind (06/15/2013) [-]
They can not view or listen to emails or calls of U.S. citizens without a warrant. They merely collect them.
User avatar #240 - volleys (06/16/2013) [-]
They aren't supposed to according to the 4th amendment, however I do not trust the government to collect my calls and emails.
#284 - Unfortunately many, if not most, people don't do their researc… 06/13/2013 on Picture banned from facebook +1
#73 - I would say they are evil. Most want to rid us of our second a… 06/10/2013 on Young love is dumb love. +2
#70 - True. But eventually Libertarians will get a spot. The Republi…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/10/2013 on Young love is dumb love. 0
User avatar #71 - ivoryhammer (06/10/2013) [-]
I wouldn't say Democrats are evil, they're just controlled by the corporations.
User avatar #73 - volleys (06/10/2013) [-]
I would say they are evil. Most want to rid us of our second and fourth amendment rights, yet hide behind the first and fifth amendments. Not to mention they love the sixteenth amendment. I actually cannot stand how our party system works, our founding fathers warned us of this thing.
#67 - Ehhhhhemmm Gary Johnson.  [+] (4 new replies) 06/10/2013 on Young love is dumb love. 0
User avatar #68 - ivoryhammer (06/10/2013) [-]
Unfortunately because of the fucked up political system there's usually only 2 candidates that will get elected, it was either Obama or Romney
User avatar #70 - volleys (06/10/2013) [-]
True. But eventually Libertarians will get a spot. The Republicans are falling apart and the Democrats are evil, both want to deny our rights.
User avatar #71 - ivoryhammer (06/10/2013) [-]
I wouldn't say Democrats are evil, they're just controlled by the corporations.
User avatar #73 - volleys (06/10/2013) [-]
I would say they are evil. Most want to rid us of our second and fourth amendment rights, yet hide behind the first and fifth amendments. Not to mention they love the sixteenth amendment. I actually cannot stand how our party system works, our founding fathers warned us of this thing.
#280 - Not quite as stupid as the one time I read some girls arguing … 06/10/2013 on Facebook ishygddt's 0
#83 - Ron Paul guysssss 06/07/2013 on Voting +1
#319 - Pope Francis is the best thing that happened for Catholics/Chr… 06/04/2013 on Damn It Vatican 0
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User avatar #3 - volleys (07/12/2013) [-]
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