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#35 - I hear ya. People don't really like having discussions like th…  [+] (1 reply) 9 hours ago on Something's Fucky 0
#39 - kinginthenorth (9 hours ago) [-]
Glad to know i managed to incite some scepticism. People should never blindly believe anything, even if they want to believe it. Making your own opinion first and foremost is a lot better than just believing someone else's. One of the many reasons that i don't care for any of the political youtubers that FJ seems to love. They're guaranteed to only provide biased information that works for them. Their opinion isn't any better than mine just because they're in a youtube video and they can ramble for 20 minutes.

There's never any justification for simply dismissing someone else's arguments. First i was called a "racist" by SJWs in discussion, now i'm called a "shill" by pizzagaters. Censoring and dismissing discussion is how the extreme SJWs happened and how pizzagaters will end up becoming conspiracy theorists if they keep doing it.

Cheers, i enjoy discussing once in a while. Thanks for being reasonable.
#32 - I see what you mean. It's easy for people with no real investi…  [+] (3 replies) 11 hours ago on Something's Fucky +2
#34 - kinginthenorth (10 hours ago) [-]
The only way for this investigation to become legitimate is if it gets a solid lead. Saying "Well they might be pedophiles" isn't enough to start a large scale investigation. It's easy to get caught up in the "They didn't investigate what i wanted them to, they're against me or they're working with them!" thought. They might be investigating something else, they might be dealing with other threats that you can't know about. And mass hysteria and witch hunts is what anyone would like to avoid. An article that says "There might be a child trafficking ring between rich people" will lead to unwanted concequences.
Until this investigation has solid evidence, it won't have any merit beyond being a conspiracy theory. The media might be early in dismissing it, but just because people believe it, doesn't make it true. It's the kind of thinking that makes people stop being skeptical and just believe anything.

I just think that most people aren't involved to the point of fucking kids. I can believe that powerful people have a favors for favors system where they get away with things or get certain things for eachother, but not to the point that some theories claim.

I appreciate that you respect my disbelief. I know others wont. It's become too easy for people to just call someone a "shill" and completely disregard someone's arguments. It reminds me of SJWs and the irony isn't funny anymore. The fact that there's already some paralels popping up between SJWs and poltards is concerning aswell.
#35 - uthannes (9 hours ago) [-]
I hear ya. People don't really like having discussions like this. After this conversation, I feel a little less convinced about the truth of these allegations. I'm still 100% that something shady is going on, and we're close to finding it, but I'm a little more willing to believe that something isn't a mass pedo ring, aside from Epstein's Lolita Express and island.

As for the parallels in behavior between SJWs and pizzagaters, I guess that's an aspect of human nature to shut down people who disagree, although I'd argue pizzagaters are a little more justified in doing so due to the amount of people who simply yell and scream at them saying they're wrong with no real discussion. But that's no reason to block out people who want a real debate.

That being said, thanks for the rational discussion, man. Cheers.
#39 - kinginthenorth (9 hours ago) [-]
Glad to know i managed to incite some scepticism. People should never blindly believe anything, even if they want to believe it. Making your own opinion first and foremost is a lot better than just believing someone else's. One of the many reasons that i don't care for any of the political youtubers that FJ seems to love. They're guaranteed to only provide biased information that works for them. Their opinion isn't any better than mine just because they're in a youtube video and they can ramble for 20 minutes.

There's never any justification for simply dismissing someone else's arguments. First i was called a "racist" by SJWs in discussion, now i'm called a "shill" by pizzagaters. Censoring and dismissing discussion is how the extreme SJWs happened and how pizzagaters will end up becoming conspiracy theorists if they keep doing it.

Cheers, i enjoy discussing once in a while. Thanks for being reasonable.
#24 - The reason we point to those things as potential evidence is b…  [+] (5 replies) 12 hours ago on Something's Fucky -3
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#31 - kinginthenorth (11 hours ago) [-]
I get that, but some people are connecting coincidences that aren't even related or they're really stretching it. To the point that people start thinking "Wow kinginthenorth is belgian, you know what else belgian people have had issues with? Yeah that's right, pedophiles. Thus, kinginthenorth is a pedophile." is valid reasoning just a ridiculous example though .
And some people are definitely crossing the line of what's research and what's just blatant conspiracy theories. They're no longer researching, they're just looking for a connection between the thing they're "researching" and the thing they want it to be. The fact that children disappear doesn't mean that all of those kids get put into trafficking. Kids get lost, parents dispose of their kids and report them missing (however messed up that might be), some kids run away from home and die, etc. Concluding that "Children disappear, therefore they must all be kept somewhere by child trafficking pedophiles!" is ridiculous.

All that's been discovered is that child trafficking exists. Which isn't too unusual, considering human trafficking also still exists. And how do you counter an accusation besides going "no i'm not"? Do you monitor them 24/7 just to make sure? Just because of an accusation? The burden of proof is still on the accuser and there's been no real proof, just theories and coincidences. At what point do you stop and think "Am i researching or am i just seeing things?"

Overall i think people have stopped being objective in this research. Coincidences (and they remain coincidences until they're proven to be related) are already being posted as if they're the TRUTH and accusations are already being made without evidence. It's hypocritical if you think back about how FJ cried about falce accusation rapes.
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#32 - uthannes (11 hours ago) [-]
I see what you mean. It's easy for people with no real investigative experience to get caught up in the chaos of all this and start getting off the track of due process. The thing about Pizzagate is that it's being conducted entirely by randoms on the internet, who only have access to so much information and, as I said before, mostly have no experience with things such as this. If only this investigation could become more legitimate - MSM acknowledging things properly, authorities getting involved and doing proper investigative work. But as things stand, that side of the world is pretty much ignoring the fact that this investigation exists, or is denying its merit entirely as a conspiracy theory.

I think Alex Jones and the folks at Infowars made an excellent point: There is clearly something going on here, but what? Just looking at the emails we can pretty safely conclude they're using some kind of code. Are they aware they're using code associated with pedophilia? Is that what they're using it for? Or is it something a little bit less sinister like drug trafficking or even a code for something related to politics that the rest of us don't understand. We don't really know. It just seems like pedophilia is the most likely because of all the coincidences I mentioned before.

I respect that you don't believe this shit. I wish I didn't either. We'll just have to hope that the people working on it don't cross the line in a way that negates the tiny bit of legitimacy they have and manage to get somewhere in their research, and get some real answers.
#34 - kinginthenorth (10 hours ago) [-]
The only way for this investigation to become legitimate is if it gets a solid lead. Saying "Well they might be pedophiles" isn't enough to start a large scale investigation. It's easy to get caught up in the "They didn't investigate what i wanted them to, they're against me or they're working with them!" thought. They might be investigating something else, they might be dealing with other threats that you can't know about. And mass hysteria and witch hunts is what anyone would like to avoid. An article that says "There might be a child trafficking ring between rich people" will lead to unwanted concequences.
Until this investigation has solid evidence, it won't have any merit beyond being a conspiracy theory. The media might be early in dismissing it, but just because people believe it, doesn't make it true. It's the kind of thinking that makes people stop being skeptical and just believe anything.

I just think that most people aren't involved to the point of fucking kids. I can believe that powerful people have a favors for favors system where they get away with things or get certain things for eachother, but not to the point that some theories claim.

I appreciate that you respect my disbelief. I know others wont. It's become too easy for people to just call someone a "shill" and completely disregard someone's arguments. It reminds me of SJWs and the irony isn't funny anymore. The fact that there's already some paralels popping up between SJWs and poltards is concerning aswell.
#35 - uthannes (9 hours ago) [-]
I hear ya. People don't really like having discussions like this. After this conversation, I feel a little less convinced about the truth of these allegations. I'm still 100% that something shady is going on, and we're close to finding it, but I'm a little more willing to believe that something isn't a mass pedo ring, aside from Epstein's Lolita Express and island.

As for the parallels in behavior between SJWs and pizzagaters, I guess that's an aspect of human nature to shut down people who disagree, although I'd argue pizzagaters are a little more justified in doing so due to the amount of people who simply yell and scream at them saying they're wrong with no real discussion. But that's no reason to block out people who want a real debate.

That being said, thanks for the rational discussion, man. Cheers.
#39 - kinginthenorth (9 hours ago) [-]
Glad to know i managed to incite some scepticism. People should never blindly believe anything, even if they want to believe it. Making your own opinion first and foremost is a lot better than just believing someone else's. One of the many reasons that i don't care for any of the political youtubers that FJ seems to love. They're guaranteed to only provide biased information that works for them. Their opinion isn't any better than mine just because they're in a youtube video and they can ramble for 20 minutes.

There's never any justification for simply dismissing someone else's arguments. First i was called a "racist" by SJWs in discussion, now i'm called a "shill" by pizzagaters. Censoring and dismissing discussion is how the extreme SJWs happened and how pizzagaters will end up becoming conspiracy theorists if they keep doing it.

Cheers, i enjoy discussing once in a while. Thanks for being reasonable.
#3 - Hey that's the toothpaste I use! I'm gonna go try this now  [+] (2 replies) 12/02/2016 on Colgate strong +4
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#4 - benadryl (12/02/2016) [-]
Is that... Guy Fieri without tv hair and clothes?
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#5 - uthannes (12/02/2016) [-]
No it's the mayor of Mildberg, sister city of Flavortown. People don't talk about it much.
Yeah that's a shopped Guy Fieri