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#15 - Congratulations! Good luck to you, I'm sure you'll do great th…  [+] (2 new replies) 04/20/2015 on usafperson's profile 0
#16 - waffies (04/20/2015) [-]
Thanks man, finally living up to some dreams, and I'm excited beyond reason. Your support means a lot too!

Aaah, so Lockheed Martin developing the F-35 counts as private sector up until they start selling them to military forces? You wanna be where the real braniacs are at! Good on ya man, you have my utmost respect, and will likely have skills that I'd never dream of.

Invent some jetpacks while you're at it eh?
#17 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
Glad to hear it man.

Yeah, Lockheed Martin is a private company that's contracted by the government to design and build the F-35 and other things. The F-35s are sold to the government for use.

Haha, we'll see what happens. Good luck, again. And thanks for your service.
#13 - Also my grandfather was in the air force which is what origina… 04/20/2015 on usafperson's profile 0
#12 - I made this account a while ago while I was planning on going …  [+] (4 new replies) 04/20/2015 on usafperson's profile 0
#14 - waffies (04/20/2015) [-]
I enlisted just this month, basic training in August. Been a long time dream to get airborne, so Loadmaster on an aircrew is a heck of a way to kick things off!

Mind if i ask what you mean by the private sector? Like what you hope to do as a career? I'm afraid I don't really have a concept of anything that means!
#15 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
Congratulations! Good luck to you, I'm sure you'll do great things.

Private sector as in anything in private business, not government-run, etc. And specifically mechanical engineering. So for example, if I'm lucky I might end up working at Boeing or Northrop Grumman developing the aircraft that the Air Force would put to use. Or even in non-military related industries, if I'm successful I would be driving the American economy and technology forward.
#16 - waffies (04/20/2015) [-]
Thanks man, finally living up to some dreams, and I'm excited beyond reason. Your support means a lot too!

Aaah, so Lockheed Martin developing the F-35 counts as private sector up until they start selling them to military forces? You wanna be where the real braniacs are at! Good on ya man, you have my utmost respect, and will likely have skills that I'd never dream of.

Invent some jetpacks while you're at it eh?
#17 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
Glad to hear it man.

Yeah, Lockheed Martin is a private company that's contracted by the government to design and build the F-35 and other things. The F-35s are sold to the government for use.

Haha, we'll see what happens. Good luck, again. And thanks for your service.
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#6 - waffies (04/20/2015) [-]
Thank you! I know I probably learned that story at some point a while back, but for the life of me all i could think of was Hercules being made to kill his family when he got home
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#44 - John Cena (04/13/2015) [-]
I thought it said normal. Hard. Black. Like it's some kind of twisted hard core fucking difficulty setting.
User avatar #75 - Toshiro (04/14/2015) [-]
I read it as that too!
#69 - supercookieduster (04/14/2015) [-]
play on black difficulty. "you're never gettin those bobble heads back, kid"
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#46 - assassindash (04/13/2015) [-]
We're all going to fucking die....
#548 - Fair enough. I think differently, but I think we can agree to … 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
#546 - So you're saying that even if Islam was real, there wouldn't b…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #547 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
I don't think any religion has it completely right, they have some truth, some interpretations, and some ideas from the culture at the time of writing.

Its more a degree of how true it is, rather than an absolute.
User avatar #548 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Fair enough. I think differently, but I think we can agree to disagree on that.
#543 - Not necessarily. Let's say that Islam is actually true. I don'…  [+] (4 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #545 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
the problem is religious books are contradictory as shit, mostly because they were written by many different people. You can go into religious books and find passages that support all sorts of things.

There are places in the new testament where it says women must wear veils, must not instruct men, only speak when spoken to. Theres God loving everyone and sacrificing his son, and God that turns someone into salt for looking at a city that he destroyed.

Most people can find something in their holy book that supports what they are doing. The differences come from which passages they follow and ignore. In Christianity, theres a debate over which passage are symbolic and literal. So no, theres not 1 true islam, only interpretation of an unclear message. Same for most religions.
User avatar #546 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
So you're saying that even if Islam was real, there wouldn't be a true Islam? Or are you saying that contradictions are proof that it isn't a true religion at all?
Keep in mind that these books are written by people, even if God is real. They're divinely inspired, not divinely written, and the way that they're written (or the bible at least, I'm not sure about the Quran) is a huge mix of things like poetry, symbolic/moralistic stories, and historical accounts all along side each other which can make interpreting very difficult. That doesn't mean the religion is false.

By the way, the women part isn't contradictory, God sacrificing his son was actually showing his love, and the salt incident was actually in the old testament and he warned them not to look back at it if I remember correctly, which is besides the point anyway.
User avatar #547 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
I don't think any religion has it completely right, they have some truth, some interpretations, and some ideas from the culture at the time of writing.

Its more a degree of how true it is, rather than an absolute.
User avatar #548 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Fair enough. I think differently, but I think we can agree to disagree on that.
#539 - Christianity is a religion the same way Blue is a color, and N… 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
#537 - Exactly. (well I think technically the thumb isn't a finger bu…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #538 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Is Christianity not a religion? I was under the idea that Christianity was the big religion, and catholics/protestants/et cetra were all sects of the big religion.
User avatar #539 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Christianity is a religion the same way Blue is a color, and Navy Blue and Sky Blue are different colors, while both are still blue. Just like Catholics and the people of the West Borough Baptist Church are both Christian, but are far from the same religion because all the other things that go into a religion. Trying to continue the color analogy, I guess you could say those other things are like how bright/dark it is, and whatever else can influence something's color.
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#535 - You literally just said it. "Christian RELIGIONS." Y…  [+] (4 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #536 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
All thumbs are fingers, not all fingers are thumbs.

All it takes for you to be Christian is who you follow. That was my initial argument.

Literally nothing else matters. If you follow a deity named Jesus Christ, you are a christian.
User avatar #537 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Exactly. (well I think technically the thumb isn't a finger but I'm not entirely sure on that and I get the point anyway)
That doesn't make all Christians the same religion. That's the point I was making. And the only reason you seemed to bring it up was to push the idea that religions are based only on who you worship/follow, which isn't true either.
User avatar #538 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Is Christianity not a religion? I was under the idea that Christianity was the big religion, and catholics/protestants/et cetra were all sects of the big religion.
User avatar #539 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Christianity is a religion the same way Blue is a color, and Navy Blue and Sky Blue are different colors, while both are still blue. Just like Catholics and the people of the West Borough Baptist Church are both Christian, but are far from the same religion because all the other things that go into a religion. Trying to continue the color analogy, I guess you could say those other things are like how bright/dark it is, and whatever else can influence something's color.
#533 - So you admit that religion is more than just who you worship/f…  [+] (6 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #534 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Christian RELIGIONS. They are all under the same christian RELIGION. The different sects of christianity are all based on how you step up to the plate regarding an old book.

They all follow christ, therefore, they are all christian. You can follow the old testament or not, you are still under the same religion. You can either take communion or refuse it, you're still christian. You can either rest on Sunday or work on it, you're still a christian.

If you follow Christ, you are a christian.
If you do not follow christ, you are not a christian.

all the different sects are based on personal issues and all the other shit they choose to believe, but it has nothing to do with the fact that they are, at the end of the day, all CHRISTIAN.
User avatar #535 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
You literally just said it. "Christian RELIGIONS." Yes. Religions. As in multiple. Then you just took off the S next time you said it. It's not worth arguing with you as to whether or not the different Christian religions are the same religion or not, because you're just factually wrong and most people will know this and you could even look it up and find out for yourself that Catholicism and the West borough Baptist Church are not the same religion, even if they're both Christian. Additionally, it doesn't matter because you already admitted that there's more to religion than just who you worship/follow which was the entire point in the first place that you questioned.

They ARE all Christian. They are NOT all the same religion. Just like hornets and honey bees and wasps are all BEES but they're not the same SPECIES. You saying that all Christian religions are the same religion is about as logical as saying that all Crayola crayons are the same color just because they're all Crayola brand.

"If you follow Christ, you are a christian.
If you do not follow christ, you are not a christian."
Yes, if you follow Christ you are a Christian and if you don't you aren't.

"all the different sects are based on personal issues and all the other shit they choose to believe, but it has nothing to do with the fact that they are, at the end of the day, all CHRISTIAN."
Yes, they are all Christian. But that doesn't mean they're all the same religion.

Are Navy Blue and Baby Blue the same color? Fucking no. Yes, they're both blue. That doesn't make them the same color. Are Honey Bees and Wasps the same species? Fucking no. Yes, they're both bees, but they're not the same species.

And again, why are we even arguing about this? The point was that there's more to religion than who you worship/follow, which you questioned. Later on, you agreed. No big deal.
User avatar #536 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
All thumbs are fingers, not all fingers are thumbs.

All it takes for you to be Christian is who you follow. That was my initial argument.

Literally nothing else matters. If you follow a deity named Jesus Christ, you are a christian.
User avatar #537 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Exactly. (well I think technically the thumb isn't a finger but I'm not entirely sure on that and I get the point anyway)
That doesn't make all Christians the same religion. That's the point I was making. And the only reason you seemed to bring it up was to push the idea that religions are based only on who you worship/follow, which isn't true either.
User avatar #538 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Is Christianity not a religion? I was under the idea that Christianity was the big religion, and catholics/protestants/et cetra were all sects of the big religion.
User avatar #539 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Christianity is a religion the same way Blue is a color, and Navy Blue and Sky Blue are different colors, while both are still blue. Just like Catholics and the people of the West Borough Baptist Church are both Christian, but are far from the same religion because all the other things that go into a religion. Trying to continue the color analogy, I guess you could say those other things are like how bright/dark it is, and whatever else can influence something's color.
#531 - Just stop. Do you really think the entire religion of Islam ca…  [+] (8 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #532 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
No, the bible consists of lots of different shit. Lots of people can't agree on it. Some only follow certain parts of it. That's why there's different sects of Christianity. They all believe slightly different shit, but under the same god and the same prophet.
User avatar #533 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
So you admit that religion is more than just who you worship/follow. Good.

Also.
Catholicism =/= Methodism =/= baptistism =/= Mormonism =/= non-denominational Christianity =/= Orthodoxy =/= etc. etc.

These are not the same religion. They're all Christian religions because they all follow Jesus Christ. But they are not all the same religion because, as we've already established, there is more to a religion than who you worship/follow.
User avatar #534 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Christian RELIGIONS. They are all under the same christian RELIGION. The different sects of christianity are all based on how you step up to the plate regarding an old book.

They all follow christ, therefore, they are all christian. You can follow the old testament or not, you are still under the same religion. You can either take communion or refuse it, you're still christian. You can either rest on Sunday or work on it, you're still a christian.

If you follow Christ, you are a christian.
If you do not follow christ, you are not a christian.

all the different sects are based on personal issues and all the other shit they choose to believe, but it has nothing to do with the fact that they are, at the end of the day, all CHRISTIAN.
User avatar #535 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
You literally just said it. "Christian RELIGIONS." Yes. Religions. As in multiple. Then you just took off the S next time you said it. It's not worth arguing with you as to whether or not the different Christian religions are the same religion or not, because you're just factually wrong and most people will know this and you could even look it up and find out for yourself that Catholicism and the West borough Baptist Church are not the same religion, even if they're both Christian. Additionally, it doesn't matter because you already admitted that there's more to religion than just who you worship/follow which was the entire point in the first place that you questioned.

They ARE all Christian. They are NOT all the same religion. Just like hornets and honey bees and wasps are all BEES but they're not the same SPECIES. You saying that all Christian religions are the same religion is about as logical as saying that all Crayola crayons are the same color just because they're all Crayola brand.

"If you follow Christ, you are a christian.
If you do not follow christ, you are not a christian."
Yes, if you follow Christ you are a Christian and if you don't you aren't.

"all the different sects are based on personal issues and all the other shit they choose to believe, but it has nothing to do with the fact that they are, at the end of the day, all CHRISTIAN."
Yes, they are all Christian. But that doesn't mean they're all the same religion.

Are Navy Blue and Baby Blue the same color? Fucking no. Yes, they're both blue. That doesn't make them the same color. Are Honey Bees and Wasps the same species? Fucking no. Yes, they're both bees, but they're not the same species.

And again, why are we even arguing about this? The point was that there's more to religion than who you worship/follow, which you questioned. Later on, you agreed. No big deal.
User avatar #536 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
All thumbs are fingers, not all fingers are thumbs.

All it takes for you to be Christian is who you follow. That was my initial argument.

Literally nothing else matters. If you follow a deity named Jesus Christ, you are a christian.
User avatar #537 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Exactly. (well I think technically the thumb isn't a finger but I'm not entirely sure on that and I get the point anyway)
That doesn't make all Christians the same religion. That's the point I was making. And the only reason you seemed to bring it up was to push the idea that religions are based only on who you worship/follow, which isn't true either.
User avatar #538 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Is Christianity not a religion? I was under the idea that Christianity was the big religion, and catholics/protestants/et cetra were all sects of the big religion.
User avatar #539 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Christianity is a religion the same way Blue is a color, and Navy Blue and Sky Blue are different colors, while both are still blue. Just like Catholics and the people of the West Borough Baptist Church are both Christian, but are far from the same religion because all the other things that go into a religion. Trying to continue the color analogy, I guess you could say those other things are like how bright/dark it is, and whatever else can influence something's color.
#530 - Islam is a religion, and is therefore defined by it's beliefs.…  [+] (6 new replies) 02/04/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #541 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
In the nationality case, the person is arguing that something certain (being scottish) is something different (whatever a true scotsman is).

In the muslim case, you are arguing that something uncertain(being a muslim) is something different (whatever a "true muslim" is according to op)

The same problem occurs in both, the definition is being changed to fit the argument. This is the problem. Just because a definition is uncertain does not mean that you can define it however you wish. It should either be an extremely loose definition "believes allah is the one true god" or self definition (anyone that says they are a muslim is)
User avatar #543 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Let's say that Islam is actually true. I don't believe this, but just for the sake of argument, let's say so. There can only be one correct answer right? Either it's supposed to be violent to all infidels or it's not. Take away the truness, Islam is a false religion. There's still only one correct way to practice it among people who call themselves Muslim, they still believe it's true. Being a true Muslim is achieved by having the right beliefs to make them a Muslim. What those are is debatable, yes, but it doesn't change anything. Meanwhile, you're a Scotsman no matter what you do or believe.
User avatar #545 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
the problem is religious books are contradictory as shit, mostly because they were written by many different people. You can go into religious books and find passages that support all sorts of things.

There are places in the new testament where it says women must wear veils, must not instruct men, only speak when spoken to. Theres God loving everyone and sacrificing his son, and God that turns someone into salt for looking at a city that he destroyed.

Most people can find something in their holy book that supports what they are doing. The differences come from which passages they follow and ignore. In Christianity, theres a debate over which passage are symbolic and literal. So no, theres not 1 true islam, only interpretation of an unclear message. Same for most religions.
User avatar #546 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
So you're saying that even if Islam was real, there wouldn't be a true Islam? Or are you saying that contradictions are proof that it isn't a true religion at all?
Keep in mind that these books are written by people, even if God is real. They're divinely inspired, not divinely written, and the way that they're written (or the bible at least, I'm not sure about the Quran) is a huge mix of things like poetry, symbolic/moralistic stories, and historical accounts all along side each other which can make interpreting very difficult. That doesn't mean the religion is false.

By the way, the women part isn't contradictory, God sacrificing his son was actually showing his love, and the salt incident was actually in the old testament and he warned them not to look back at it if I remember correctly, which is besides the point anyway.
User avatar #547 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
I don't think any religion has it completely right, they have some truth, some interpretations, and some ideas from the culture at the time of writing.

Its more a degree of how true it is, rather than an absolute.
User avatar #548 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Fair enough. I think differently, but I think we can agree to disagree on that.
#392 - Don't look up "violent quran quotes" on the internet…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/03/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... +1
User avatar #550 - schnizel (02/04/2015) [-]
You know these verses are orders, no descriptions of events. Those are hadiths.
#384 - Being Islam is something that you choose to do. A baseball pla…  [+] (8 new replies) 02/03/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... +1
#436 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
The fallacy is that person A defines the membership of a group through a person's actions, without reference to any specific objective rule. If a religion contains contradictory ideas, who is to say which is correct and who are "true" muslims?

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Quran (8:12)

I say that if you don't follow this and behead non-muslims, you are not a true muslim. Why is what I say less valid than anyone else?

Its a fallacy of re-definition of terms, not about whether the group is something you are born into or become(and people are often born into religion).

And would you say everyone that voted yes in this poll is not a true muslim?
User avatar #530 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Islam is a religion, and is therefore defined by it's beliefs. The point I was making was not about who are the "true" Muslims, but simply that the "true Scotsman" fallacy doesn't work here because they are not inherently Muslim and being Muslim is defined by beliefs. In this case, people can argue over who are correctly following the religion and who isn't, or even if both are. But in the case of the Scotsman, there is no argument in that. They are all Scotsmen, regardless. See what I mean, one can be argued that one is true and the other is not, while with the other, there is no "true" to begin with.

I'd be careful using quotes you find on the internet for the Quran. You need to make sure of the context. Some guy in this thread somewhere was saying these were quotes applied specifically to wars or something like that. I personally haven't read through the whole Quran and I don't pretend to understand it or know any of the context of the these quotes. Islam, for all I know, could very well be an inherently violent religion. But it can be argued back and forth, while the Scotsman is always a Scotsman.

And being born into a religion doesn't mean the religion isn't something that you choose to be or that you're inherently that religion. It doesn't work like nationality or race that way.
User avatar #541 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
In the nationality case, the person is arguing that something certain (being scottish) is something different (whatever a true scotsman is).

In the muslim case, you are arguing that something uncertain(being a muslim) is something different (whatever a "true muslim" is according to op)

The same problem occurs in both, the definition is being changed to fit the argument. This is the problem. Just because a definition is uncertain does not mean that you can define it however you wish. It should either be an extremely loose definition "believes allah is the one true god" or self definition (anyone that says they are a muslim is)
User avatar #543 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Not necessarily. Let's say that Islam is actually true. I don't believe this, but just for the sake of argument, let's say so. There can only be one correct answer right? Either it's supposed to be violent to all infidels or it's not. Take away the truness, Islam is a false religion. There's still only one correct way to practice it among people who call themselves Muslim, they still believe it's true. Being a true Muslim is achieved by having the right beliefs to make them a Muslim. What those are is debatable, yes, but it doesn't change anything. Meanwhile, you're a Scotsman no matter what you do or believe.
User avatar #545 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
the problem is religious books are contradictory as shit, mostly because they were written by many different people. You can go into religious books and find passages that support all sorts of things.

There are places in the new testament where it says women must wear veils, must not instruct men, only speak when spoken to. Theres God loving everyone and sacrificing his son, and God that turns someone into salt for looking at a city that he destroyed.

Most people can find something in their holy book that supports what they are doing. The differences come from which passages they follow and ignore. In Christianity, theres a debate over which passage are symbolic and literal. So no, theres not 1 true islam, only interpretation of an unclear message. Same for most religions.
User avatar #546 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
So you're saying that even if Islam was real, there wouldn't be a true Islam? Or are you saying that contradictions are proof that it isn't a true religion at all?
Keep in mind that these books are written by people, even if God is real. They're divinely inspired, not divinely written, and the way that they're written (or the bible at least, I'm not sure about the Quran) is a huge mix of things like poetry, symbolic/moralistic stories, and historical accounts all along side each other which can make interpreting very difficult. That doesn't mean the religion is false.

By the way, the women part isn't contradictory, God sacrificing his son was actually showing his love, and the salt incident was actually in the old testament and he warned them not to look back at it if I remember correctly, which is besides the point anyway.
User avatar #547 - geese (02/04/2015) [-]
I don't think any religion has it completely right, they have some truth, some interpretations, and some ideas from the culture at the time of writing.

Its more a degree of how true it is, rather than an absolute.
User avatar #548 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Fair enough. I think differently, but I think we can agree to disagree on that.
#382 - A religion is more than who you worship/follow ******* .  [+] (10 new replies) 02/03/2015 on Islam - The Religion of... 0
User avatar #519 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
such as?
User avatar #531 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Just stop. Do you really think the entire religion of Islam can be summed up by "Worship: Allah. Follow: Mohammed?"
Do you think the entire Bible consists entirely of one sentence saying "Worship God, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit?"

A religion is a huge set of beliefs and values.
User avatar #532 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
No, the bible consists of lots of different shit. Lots of people can't agree on it. Some only follow certain parts of it. That's why there's different sects of Christianity. They all believe slightly different shit, but under the same god and the same prophet.
User avatar #533 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
So you admit that religion is more than just who you worship/follow. Good.

Also.
Catholicism =/= Methodism =/= baptistism =/= Mormonism =/= non-denominational Christianity =/= Orthodoxy =/= etc. etc.

These are not the same religion. They're all Christian religions because they all follow Jesus Christ. But they are not all the same religion because, as we've already established, there is more to a religion than who you worship/follow.
User avatar #534 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Christian RELIGIONS. They are all under the same christian RELIGION. The different sects of christianity are all based on how you step up to the plate regarding an old book.

They all follow christ, therefore, they are all christian. You can follow the old testament or not, you are still under the same religion. You can either take communion or refuse it, you're still christian. You can either rest on Sunday or work on it, you're still a christian.

If you follow Christ, you are a christian.
If you do not follow christ, you are not a christian.

all the different sects are based on personal issues and all the other shit they choose to believe, but it has nothing to do with the fact that they are, at the end of the day, all CHRISTIAN.
User avatar #535 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
You literally just said it. "Christian RELIGIONS." Yes. Religions. As in multiple. Then you just took off the S next time you said it. It's not worth arguing with you as to whether or not the different Christian religions are the same religion or not, because you're just factually wrong and most people will know this and you could even look it up and find out for yourself that Catholicism and the West borough Baptist Church are not the same religion, even if they're both Christian. Additionally, it doesn't matter because you already admitted that there's more to religion than just who you worship/follow which was the entire point in the first place that you questioned.

They ARE all Christian. They are NOT all the same religion. Just like hornets and honey bees and wasps are all BEES but they're not the same SPECIES. You saying that all Christian religions are the same religion is about as logical as saying that all Crayola crayons are the same color just because they're all Crayola brand.

"If you follow Christ, you are a christian.
If you do not follow christ, you are not a christian."
Yes, if you follow Christ you are a Christian and if you don't you aren't.

"all the different sects are based on personal issues and all the other shit they choose to believe, but it has nothing to do with the fact that they are, at the end of the day, all CHRISTIAN."
Yes, they are all Christian. But that doesn't mean they're all the same religion.

Are Navy Blue and Baby Blue the same color? Fucking no. Yes, they're both blue. That doesn't make them the same color. Are Honey Bees and Wasps the same species? Fucking no. Yes, they're both bees, but they're not the same species.

And again, why are we even arguing about this? The point was that there's more to religion than who you worship/follow, which you questioned. Later on, you agreed. No big deal.
User avatar #536 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
All thumbs are fingers, not all fingers are thumbs.

All it takes for you to be Christian is who you follow. That was my initial argument.

Literally nothing else matters. If you follow a deity named Jesus Christ, you are a christian.
User avatar #537 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Exactly. (well I think technically the thumb isn't a finger but I'm not entirely sure on that and I get the point anyway)
That doesn't make all Christians the same religion. That's the point I was making. And the only reason you seemed to bring it up was to push the idea that religions are based only on who you worship/follow, which isn't true either.
User avatar #538 - Zaxplab (02/04/2015) [-]
Is Christianity not a religion? I was under the idea that Christianity was the big religion, and catholics/protestants/et cetra were all sects of the big religion.
User avatar #539 - usafperson (02/04/2015) [-]
Christianity is a religion the same way Blue is a color, and Navy Blue and Sky Blue are different colors, while both are still blue. Just like Catholics and the people of the West Borough Baptist Church are both Christian, but are far from the same religion because all the other things that go into a religion. Trying to continue the color analogy, I guess you could say those other things are like how bright/dark it is, and whatever else can influence something's color.
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User avatar #224 - didactus (01/23/2015) [-]
Christopher Hitchens would like to have a word with you about that.
#214 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
At the time the Torah was written, the most advanced people lived in Egypt.

At the time the New Testament and the Quran were written, the most advanced people (at least in the Western Hemisphere) lived in Rome and Greece.
User avatar #203 - babyanalraper (01/23/2015) [-]
China was about equally as advanced at the time
#175 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
that didn't happen tho.
#165 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
im sorry, but this is just incorrect
#159 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
the most advanced civilizations on the planet were under Roman Imperial rule? The best substitute for brains is silence.
User avatar #173 - rockamekishiko (01/23/2015) [-]
Rome didn't come until later. Did you study history? the Sumerians, Egyptians? Mesopotamia? ring a bell?
#194 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
So Romans didn't crucify Jesus? ring a bell? shut the fuck up.
User avatar #75 - YllekNayr (01/23/2015) [-]
>most advanced civilizations of the time
>not China
User avatar #91 - theghostrider (01/23/2015) [-]
Han, Song, Ming and the Tang Dinasty were amazing.
User avatar #121 - wtel (01/23/2015) [-]
Wasn't the tang dynasty fictional?
User avatar #123 - theghostrider (01/23/2015) [-]
I think you could possibly be talking about the Xia Dinasty that is considered semi-fictional.
#69 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
Also remember that since people didn't' have cars and shit, the typical person didn't' travel very far from where they were born.
#64 - comradewinter (01/23/2015) [-]
Well, maybe so while Judaism was made, but Christianity and Islam were created long after Arabia was the greatest.
User avatar #49 - jfbyers (01/23/2015) [-]
it used to be the most advanced place in the world, and then sand-niggers
User avatar #172 - rockamekishiko (01/23/2015) [-]
it was the same people. It's just that their time passed already, then that title went to asia and europe, then the americas
#25 - christhechris (01/22/2015) [-]
"most advanced civilization of the time..."

Funny, I see neither Rome, Greece or China in that little circle.
#134 - innocentbabies (01/23/2015) [-]
He has a very valid point, though. Rome had utter hegemony over the Mediterranean around the time of the New Testament's writing, still has nothing about any part of the Roman Empire outside of Israel iirc.
#48 - John Cena (01/23/2015) [-]
Still the cradle of civilisation, dude
#29 - John Cena (01/22/2015) [-]
Christianity and Islam are the two dominant and still growing religions in the world so I'd say it wasn't pointless. That little area was appearently the best place to start and spread christianity from.
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User avatar #19 to #18 - usafperson (04/28/2015) [-]
No, sorry. Why?
#11 - waffies ONLINE (04/20/2015) [-]
Hiya! You answered my Oedipus question, and I saw your username and felt compelled to ask my fellow FJer what his involvement with the USAF is! Are you actively enlisted, veteran, retired, or just a big fan?
Hiya! You answered my Oedipus question, and I saw your username and felt compelled to ask my fellow FJer what his involvement with the USAF is! Are you actively enlisted, veteran, retired, or just a big fan?
User avatar #13 to #11 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
Also my grandfather was in the air force which is what originally got me interested.
#12 to #11 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
I made this account a while ago while I was planning on going to the Air Force Academy. I wanted to be a pilot, and had been obsessed with military aircraft for a long time. I worked pretty hard for it, and even applied to the summer seminar there and was accepted and attended, which I'm very proud of. Unfortunately I won't ever know if I would have actually gotten in because I eventually decided that I, personally, could do more for my country in the private sector than as an air force pilot. I figure anyone skilled enough for the Air Force to let them into an F-22 will get the job done exceedingly well. So I'm currently at uni studying engineering. Still a huge fan though!
What about yourself?
#14 to #12 - waffies ONLINE (04/20/2015) [-]
I enlisted just this month, basic training in August. Been a long time dream to get airborne, so Loadmaster on an aircrew is a heck of a way to kick things off!    
   
Mind if i ask what you mean by the private sector? Like what you hope to do as a career?  I'm afraid I don't really have a concept of anything that means!
I enlisted just this month, basic training in August. Been a long time dream to get airborne, so Loadmaster on an aircrew is a heck of a way to kick things off!

Mind if i ask what you mean by the private sector? Like what you hope to do as a career? I'm afraid I don't really have a concept of anything that means!
#15 to #14 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
Congratulations! Good luck to you, I'm sure you'll do great things.

Private sector as in anything in private business, not government-run, etc. And specifically mechanical engineering. So for example, if I'm lucky I might end up working at Boeing or Northrop Grumman developing the aircraft that the Air Force would put to use. Or even in non-military related industries, if I'm successful I would be driving the American economy and technology forward.
#16 to #15 - waffies ONLINE (04/20/2015) [-]
Thanks man, finally living up to some dreams, and I'm excited beyond reason. Your support means a lot too!   
   
Aaah, so Lockheed Martin developing the F-35 counts as private sector up until they start selling them to military forces? You wanna be where the real braniacs are at! Good on ya man, you have my utmost respect, and will likely have skills that I'd never dream of.   
   
Invent some jetpacks while you're at it eh?
Thanks man, finally living up to some dreams, and I'm excited beyond reason. Your support means a lot too!

Aaah, so Lockheed Martin developing the F-35 counts as private sector up until they start selling them to military forces? You wanna be where the real braniacs are at! Good on ya man, you have my utmost respect, and will likely have skills that I'd never dream of.

Invent some jetpacks while you're at it eh?
#17 to #16 - usafperson (04/20/2015) [-]
Glad to hear it man.

Yeah, Lockheed Martin is a private company that's contracted by the government to design and build the F-35 and other things. The F-35s are sold to the government for use.

Haha, we'll see what happens. Good luck, again. And thanks for your service.
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Thank you.
User avatar #9 to #8 - usafperson (10/01/2012) [-]
You're welcome bro. I feel for you. Let me know how it works out.
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User avatar #1 - jmezfm (04/07/2012) [-]
Why the add?
User avatar #2 to #1 - usafperson (04/07/2012) [-]
no reason, just thought i would add a a random person as a friend, clicked your username, saw you said you accept requests, added, you accepted, we are here. How do you do?

User avatar #3 to #2 - jmezfm (04/07/2012) [-]
Haha awesome. And I do fine, and yourself?
User avatar #4 to #3 - usafperson (04/07/2012) [-]
quite fine myself, thank you
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You're very welcome, fine sir.
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