underrated
tho i have to mention that chap choy is traditionally a vegetable dish

Yes. Nobody is living up to their full potential.

Thanks Maxson.

They stole the reactor that powered rivet city so they could build an airship.

Yeah. They stole the one thing that kept on of the only major settlements in the DC area so they could build an airship. Granted it was elder Lyons Idea to build the ship using what was left at Adams airforce base. But he died before the ship was finished.

They also claim that the DC wasteland is much worse than the Commonwealth. What with it's clean water, towns, and heavily armored warriors.

The commonwealth has one actual city. Everything else is family run farms or wasters trying to eak out a life. One settlement of any kind of size, surrounded on all sides by raiders, ghouls and supermutants.

Maybe the BoS got huge boners from all the free power armor just lying around and came to a unanimous decision that the commonwealth is fuckin rad?

That might be it.

Ok here I go.

The chosen one wiped out most of the Enclave the NCR wiped out the few remaining Enclave soldiers at Nevarro after the Enclave leadership was gone and most of them fled east. The NCR did this through sheer numbers. (Like how the Russians beat the Nazis. Fancy guns mean nothing when you're drowning in blood. Both yours and theirs)
The brotherhood never went to war with the Enclave until Lyons took it upon himself to fight them in the capitol wasteland. Many BoS members though highly of the Enclave and wondered why they weren't as effective as them. Later on they realized how bad they were and were apart of the purging of Navarro (Which was around for several years after the loss of the Oil Rig)

The NCR army consists of thousands upon thousands of individuals who have basic military training, equipment and so on. They also have the NCR and Desert Rangers who are some of the toughest troops around. The NCR wiped out the Enclave with the brotherhoods help and fought the Legion to a halt, legion regularly raids NCR lands and slaughter caravans, townspeople, soldiers and everything else they choose. The NCR does wipe out plenty of the Legion patrols though.

The brotherhood can/ could be divided into three distinct groups. The West coast BoS, the old honorguard of the brotherhood who have survived by simply being far better dug in, defended and equiped in comparison to the people of the wasteland. They are slowly dying.

The Mid western BoS who are/ were fairly large and heavily equipped (Most of their lore has been scrapped otherwise they would be the strongest BoS faction), they openly recruited and had control of massive chunks of land, comparable to the NCR.

The East Coast BoS did some open recruiting to keep up numbers but were already small and poorly equipped to begin with. they were sent on a fools errand to get rid of upstarts and dissenters. Lyons made this a new chapter and the only power in the Capital wasteland. Before the brotherhood there was only the super mutants. No matter how bad you thought it was in the capitol wasteland, it was far worse before Lyons showed up. Given time they would have become comparable to the NCR, but the Lyons died and Maxson took over, he's forced the brotherhood back into the role thats killing it.

Maxson is a mixed bag. He's a Maxson, so he's suppose to uphold the traditions set by his ancestors, but he also grew up around Sara and Owen lyons who tried to show him that the people were more important than the old ways.

When Maxson took over he changed things. He went back to hoarding tech as the number 1 priority, he cut back on the open recruiting (Can't stay superior to wasteland savages when your forces are made up of them) he drew the Outcasts back in, and established contact with the West coast BoS again. The West coast BoS leaders had to stop cults that were worshiping Maxson as a new god because of course they would.
he's a Chad who's had the good luck to be surrounded by people who think he's the next coming of jesus. He is a sound leader and such but he's also rides the fine line of being a Gary sue character.

Might wanna let you know that I did mention that.

The brotherhood fought with the NCR to destroy Navarro and then fought with them over technology because the West coast BoS does nothing but try and get technology. They got beaten like the Nazis got beat by the reds.

Full on war. As in declared open war on them.

its not really war when it's the old guard in a military base against the combined forces of two major players. It's more of an operation, or a skirmish.

Operation remove Enclave.

Owen Lyons was originally from the BoS home bunkers. As he grew older he became unhappy with the brotherhoods methods and often spoke out against their ways and traditions. Over the years he gained a fairly large following among him peers. The BoS command could silence him due to his ability as a leader and his ever growing following. So they gave him and his group the task of traveling to the East coast to scavenge the DC wasteland for technology and set up a new chapter. With him gone no one would join his cause and he might even straighten out.

Months passed and Lyons and company made it to the DC wasteland where they found the ruins of the pentagon, super mutants, and the ailing people of the Capital. Not only did he not straighten out, but he outright forsook the teachings of the brotherhood to help the people of the wasteland and beat back the mutant hoards and the other terrors of the wasteland. He's been out on the east coast for 20 years trying to make things better. But he and his men don't have the manpower, technology or the resources to fight a war on the scale needed. Thats when the Wanderer showed up. This one man army came in and did what the brotherhood needed done, paving the way for them to become the powerhouse that they are.

Thanks to the wanderer the brotherhood beat the Enclave, gained vast amounts of tech, secured new bases and were able to set forth plans to build the Prydwen. That's when Lyons died of old age, shortly after that his daughter died in battle. And after that some poor group of wrighters had to wright out most of the named BoS characters who would have been viable Elders so that Maxson could be elder and lead the brotherhood.

Yeah. I like that they have fun with their own canon and lore but at the same time the serious and visible stuff that alters the whole state of the world has to stay consistent and good. Otherwise they turn into Games workshop.

I love Fallout 4 and the rest of the franchise. But compared to the Elder Scrolls series, they are lazy with Fallout. Elder scrolls keeps coming back with deeper and deeper lore and history, characters that make sense, a vibrant world. On the other hand they treat Fallout as far less than that, a franchise they can do what they want with even if it turns to shit.

Yeah. I find little pockets everywhere, but they are very little pockets and are very few. Elder scrolls has a bajillion books, NPCs willing to tell you the whole history of the universe, and enough random dialogue that it fills out the world as a cohesive whole.

Fallout 4 feels like a deep world but they refused to fill it in with history and interesting tidbits. I find new stuff all the time, and I love it. But it feels they spent more time putting the world together than they did... well everything else.

Thats why I have high hopes for the expansions. Bethesda has shown before that they have the chops needed to make a deep story, look at the Elder scrolls, very deep world. The expansions need to be like New vegas, but better. In New Vegas the DLC formed a coherent and full story broken into chapters. Fallout 4s DLC needs to do the same on a greater scale. I hope in a year or two people go around saying "Man the expansions for fallout 4 are some of the best pieces of content bethesdas put out. I bought fallout 4, for the expansions". It's terrible to rely on DLC but i feel bethesda can pull it of.

yeah. I've heard speculation about at least one of the DLC taking place on the moon. Theres a bunch of stuff in game that references the moon and even the sea of tranquility. So maybe moon commies, maybe more aliens. Doesn't matter. They could turn fallout into full on 1950s scyfy campyness and as long as the writing was good I wouldn't care.

Sorry, apparently he died about a year after Fallout 3 of natural causes.

His daughter took charge, but died in combat shortly after. So that little twerp Maxson from Fallout 3 is now in charge.

I'd say fuck the refugees, not to be rude, but fuck ehm.
They had their chance, they let terrorist take over their country, they could of fought back but stayed their ass inside and did nothing. Then they run off to other countries and demand to live in mansions, for governments to give them loads of money so they can eat good, they attack the locals, destroy homes, destroy the neighborhood, you think I care about these ruthless ungrateful animals. All of that is not getting any coverage. But if you look at how these animals behave, the things they demand, do you think you would let them into your country? Giving them free stuff and they aren't happy, food everyday, a roof over your head but nope.. Fuck ehm, kill every last of ehm in europe or send them back. I don't feel pitty or remorse for anyone like that, hell gimme a gun and i'll do the job..