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I'll be taking a break from the site, at least until it finds a new punching bag than feminism. I want to keep fighting the good fight, but I'm tired. To paraphrase Theoden, what can one do against such reckless hate? I came here to be entertained, not to have to defend women's rights and basic common sense on every third post. This isn't quitting in a huff, it's that can't keep commenting, but I can't in good conscience be on the site and say nothing. Goodbye admin, goodbye all, for the moment.
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|#247 - You do know that this isn't really a representation of f… [+] (15 new replies)||05/20/2014 on Efects of feminism #∞||+1|
#286 - devout feminist (05/20/2014) [-]
Feminism has become conflated with the idea of women > men misogyiny. I would be looking for a new word, frankly.
#292 - twistedwoodthing (05/20/2014) [-]
Why, because of the misconceptions of people who's understanding of gender equality come from sites like this? Did muslims change the name of their religion after 9/11? Would you change your name just because someone decides they'd like to call you Susan rather than Steve?
Feminism has its roots in an attempt to address systemic (not perpetrated by individual dudes, but the society we were all born into) inequalities faced by women. I see no reason at all for a name change.
#260 - twistedwoodthing (05/20/2014) [-]
Feminists wanted, and still want, gender equality. Movements change over time, just like the societies they try to change, just like the insults from detractors ("bluestockings" to "feminazis") change. But the fundamental precepts remain the same. The belief is that people are not limited by their gender, and I think most people agree with that.
Unless people are actually challenging that concept (feminism), they aren't actually arguing with ideas, they're just pointing out flaws in the adherents (individual feminists).
It's ad hominem, which is both easy and useless.
#263 - timmywankenobi (05/20/2014) [-]
well there are problems with some of the core beliefs of feminism as well particularly the Hypothesis all men are oppressing all women through an invisible patriarchy that favors men by giving extra rights and special treatment to women in most areas of society epically legally. Also feminism can't be about equality because ti claims all women might fight all men because men are the Bourgeoisie and women are the Proletariat and all crimes the proletariat commit against the bourgeoisie are righteous and justified .
Such a foundation cannot create a house of equality of opportunity ever.
#279 - twistedwoodthing (05/20/2014) [-]
I don't think Marxist terminology is helpful here: is classicism an issue, and potentially interrelated with gender? Sure. But I don't think you can - or that feminists do - associate women simply with the proletariat and men with the bourgeoisie.
Also, it's a misconception that feminists believe all men are oppressing women. It's not like men do it by virtue of their existence. The problem is the social structures we've inherited.
In fact, the gender biases of society that feminists oppose hurt men too! The assumption men should "be tough", preventing them from accessing mental health services. Court assumptions that women are "naturally" better caregivers. The painting of women as passive sex objects and men as sex fiends. These are limiting gender stereotypes that should be rejected for everyone's benefit.
Feminism isn't the threat to men people think it is, it can make things better for both genders.
#288 - timmywankenobi (05/20/2014) [-]
I agree with most of what you are saying but I would point out painting all men as sex fiends is entirely feminist doing in order to fear-monger other women into line with feminist thought. Also the feminist lobby are the biggest opponents to shared parenting and reform of the family court system,ending MGM and wish to end due process for men accused of crimes against women. these thing hardy sound like the actions of a equality minded group to me. I judge groups by their action not their words, words are cheap and often hold no meaning to people saying them only for political gains.
#300 - twistedwoodthing (05/20/2014) [-]
Painting men as sexual fiends is only logically acceptable if you a) have negative views on sexuality itself and b) assume that women are to be sexually passive. It involves being anti sex and assuming women aren't empowered, which is pretty much the opposite of feminism. Using it as a scare tactic would just be stupid (I'm not saying some people don't do it, but I'm saying they're wrong).
Similarly, it's not like there's an official bureau for all of feminism, some groups are going to oppose custody laws. I'm just making the point that we have a lot more in common than we do to fight about.
#498 - timmywankenobi (05/20/2014) [-]
yes all that is true but I would draw you attention to the "Rape Culture Scam" they are running in the Us and Canada the pump the TV and Radio full of nonsense and fear and complete made up statistics like 1/4 or 1/5 or 2/4 (it depends what feminist group paid for the ad campaign) college women are raped when in reality the odd of a college age woman being raped at a party or on campus is closer to 1 in 2000 in bad cities like Detroit and LA and 1 in 4800 in better cities, and here in Montreal it's closer to 1 in 8000 ! and that includes date rape,drugged drinks,the woman being too drunk to consent (even if the man was drunk too) and violent rape. Yet these feminists would have you believe rape of women is epidemic even though the police say it's at a historical low. to counter this feminists claim 99.8% of women do not report their rape. How can they know a unknown ? for year they have been spouting shit about men "all men are potential rapists ! " "don't be that guy" "all men are capable of rape so treat them like they have !" , "all men are potential pedophiles so if you see a man near children confront him ! " "all men want sex all them time they are animals" etc . These are scare tactics and demonizing men to gain support, and it worked since the feminist lobby got the president to say 1/5 on TV despite it being completely false in order to gain feminist support and donations for the democrats.
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