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I personally think a lot of it goes back to the "red scare" where anything remotely traceable to communism was vilified as the death of liberty on a global level. So over the course of generations it is now a "tradition" of sorts to fear and hate socialistic ideals with few people bothering to question why. That and I think some people fail to consider distinctions. I personally see a change from capitalist economy to socialist to be almost unrealistic in the USA due to just how integrated the current infrastructure is, but to simply change one industry, healthcare for example, seems considerably more feasible. Though I think quite a few Americans eel that to adopt one socialist system would be to adopt socialism in entirety.
America is controlled by the rich. And the richer only want to get richer. This is evidenced by the comically high salaries Congress give themselves. If we let them take over healthcare, it's still going to be too expensive. Take the ACA for example. What was it, 60 million people got healthcare? Okay, that's all well and good for them. But what happened to the rest of the country? Premiums skyrocketed, millions upon millions could no longer afford coverage, and if you didn't enroll in Obamacare (y'know, because it was too expensive), then you got fined for it. Meanwhile, those that did enroll found that they were paying for shit that they could never use, like men having to pay for pap spears and mammograms, among other inapplicable things.
Government should remove itself entirely from the healthcare industry and let the free market run its course. Competition is absolutely essential in this country to ensure both affordability as well as reasonable coverage. Socialism may work in other countries but things are different here.
I agree that the US is so integrated with capitalism that a complete transition isn't realistic at least not within many generations. Though to say free market healthcare would solve all the problems doesn't sound correct to me either. Historically any industry that is left unregulated grows greedier and less humane. Coal companies would send miners (often to their deaths) to check for gas leaks as replacing a miner was cheaper than buying birds.
And in an industry such as healthcare where people literally depend on it, the supplier is effectively allowed to charge what they want as it is a service that has to be met. especially considering hospitals aren't exactly something you will always have in abundance for the sake of competition. Rural areas can easily have 45 minute or longer distances to a hospital. So there just isn't anyway that competition in this industry coukdnever adequately meet demand hence the supplier will always be in control of the price.
I am curious though, have you taken all that into consideration? If so how do you still feel so confident in free market fixing healthcare?
I'll concede to your point about competition not being as abundant in the health industry. But what you have to realize is that if we hand control over to the government, then competition won't just be rare. It'll be completely nonexistent. There will be nothing to keep prices and services in check. When you say, "any industry that is left unregulated grows greedier and less humane," I agree with that. However, the industry in which this problem is most severe is government. They're the ones that need regulating more than anyone else. But who's gonna regulate the government? Themselves?
To put this simply: A free market system can be difficult to live with. But a government-controlled system is impossible to live with. Those are the two options. So I say the former is preferable.
Ok, so you aren't proposing a "solution" so much as a lesser evil? I believe I see where you're coming from now.
Also I thought about mentioning this but decided to wait and see if you brought it up. Government control of a system is indeed far from ideal. When we think of inefficient and frustrating systems we often consider USPS (which by my experience is consistently inferior in quality to FedEx or UPS) the DMV, and one could even point out the legal and justice systems too. Systems where the Government is in control and we end up with extremely inefficient if not downright broken services as a result.
So I do agree that history seems to imply that the US government at least, is generally not the best at properly maintaining such large service-based systems thus healthcare could suffer considerably as a result.
Though ultimately I think what it comes down to is accountability and incentive. Competition in the free market improves systems and industries because the companies involved are held accountable by consumers that will refuse to do business with them if left unsatisfied, alternatively offering the best service for price leads to increased revenue thus giving incentive to improve quality and lower cost.
So theoretically a government system could work for healthcare if a proper method of accountability and incentive were in place. Indeed this is why on the purely theoretical level I can understand the appeal of socialist systems where the accountability and incentive are born from the fact the people themselves are responsible for the systems they use.
As you've said though, realistically as the world is now, I don't think there is an easy or clear solution.
I don't want to come off as saying a free market system is ONLY a lesser evil, because I do believe that it has the potential to be a solution too, given enough time. But I wouldn't extend that same faith to a socialized system, because a free market fluctuates organically in response to economic growth and shrinkage, whereas a lack of competition means the socialized system would only change manually and arbitrarily at the whim of the government.
You're right in saying that socialism could work in theory provided the government was held to a level of accountability, but as I said, in reality, there's no way to regulate the government, because, well, they're the government. They can pretty much do whatever they want. And as we've seen, the more they grow, the more they overreach. We need smaller government and more freedom.
My ideal government would be one whose only purpose was to defend the borders, and possibly invest in infrastructure (but only that which crosses state lines). Everything else can be handled on state and local levels, or by the private sector. That includes healthcare, education, environmental protection, etc.
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