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|#8 - Same **** here in Norway... [+] (29 new replies)||10/15/2014 on Meanwhile in the U.K.||+115|
#106 - ompalomper (10/15/2014) [-]
"yes, lets only take in those who have no education, will to learn the language or desire to work."
"it's the governments fault that the unemployment, homelessness, crime and poverty is rising!"
"you can't point out that there is a direct correlation between these facts, that's racist!"
"no we don't want those that have a job, experience, know or want to learn the language to come here, they will take all the jobs. never mind the fact that we have a massive country side that could be populated or that our cities are due an expansion."
and people can't understand why the nationalist party has gained support.
"that support is only from old racist people!"
even though the statistics show that the majority of the new support comes from second generation immigrants who are sick and tired of getting a bad image from the dreg that comes here to sit in the streets and illegally live in parks. meanwhile the rest of europe are just sitting there, happy that we are taking the sole responsibility of helping these families in need and is some cases encourages their poor to go be poor here instead so that their own statistics can get better without any effort.
seriously, fuck the public, fuck the poor dreg, fuck the rest of europe, and fuck the socialist democratic party that started the whole "you can come here, but not work here" shit back when they where fucking up the swedish golden age.
#59 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/15/2014) [-]
That is so scared of muslims he didn't touch them and went to kill kids instead?. O yes, hero.
#70 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/15/2014) [-]
you have to get rid of the source, before draining the sink for water. Or else it will continue to flow.
#32 - comradewinter (10/15/2014) [-]
Muslims stand for more crimes and violence than Breivik did, tho. And it was reactionary to the immigration.
Not gonna defend that idiot. He did everything wrong, and killed innocent people. Still, immigration is a damn problem when symphatizers are waving IS-flags in the middle of the capital.
#78 - somekindofname (10/15/2014) [-]
The difference being that no 100 percent norwegian ever asked to become a part of norway. That's just how it is, but these asshats claim to have come here to escape the horrors of their homeland and homeculture, then tries to make the exact same shit happen here.
They sit on the corners and beg in a country where begging should be impossible, because if you are allowed to stay here we pay you to get eduacated, stay of the streets and get a fucking job.
PS, I'm not talking about the good guys that I view as my fellow country men, who escaped horrors and hell and found peace.
#80 - katha (10/15/2014) [-]
No, they didn't ask to be part of Norway, that's true. But not all immigrants asked for it either.. and essentially, they're both doing the same. No-one's forcing the "useless white Norwegians" (for lack of a better term) to stay here either, no-one's asking them to drop out of school or leave their jobs, and there's definitely no-one here begging all these lazy fucks to exploit NAV so that they don't have to peel their lazy asses off the sofa. You know, that thing is that most of our anti-immigrant opinion holders, are those that are at least equally useless as their much-hated immigrants. Go to Oslo, and tell me it's only the immigrants that cause problems. Look at the alcoholic, 18-year-old high school dropouts and tell me they're all immigrants. Look at those complaining and bitching day in and day out.... it's both of us: Norwegians and immigrants alike.
Also, might I remind you that most immigrants in Norway are from Sweden? They far outnumber any other immigrant nationality, yet no-one bats an eye because they "look Norwegian".
I do see your side as well though; I have absolutely no respect towards people of any nationality/religion/culture that is very different from ours and who refuse to adapt to Norwegian law. Those Muslims who demand Sharia law in Norway can go fuck themselves up the ass with a chainsaw, and they shouldn't be tolerated. But still, they come off as the "stereotypical immigrant" to us, and that makes me very, very sad.
#93 - somekindofname (10/15/2014) [-]
The thing is that most of these people follow let's just call it "Scandinavian culture". The thing is that we can't just send our fellow norwegians out because they are, if not completely ours, at least our countries responsibility. Where else can they go? We can't just shovel them in, for example, Englands general direction. They'd give us a huge "U wot m8" and hang up the phone on us.
But the lazy immigrant, should he be arab, paki or, so-god-help-me, svenskefaen, is first and foremost a representative of his homeland, and in part their responsibility. If he makes it hard/impossible for his new home to integrate him, then he gets thrown out. You do not go to a strangers home and starts taking down is paintings and refurnish his bedroom without getting thrown out. Your son might do it, and for that he should get a smack, but a stranger is back on the street in no time.
Now this example is of course somewhat mediocre, home and country are two different entities, but there is some truth in it still. We have invited these people into our home, they have to respect that.
Now of course, if you came here below age 18 then you should be allowed to stay. The poor russian lady that was sent out some years back represents some of the reddest cheeks I've ever had for my country.
#97 - katha (10/15/2014) [-]
Ah, now we've reached a point we both agree on. I have said it before and I'll say it again; tearing down any country's laws and policies after they gave you the rights to stay is not excusable.
It's just, we tend to generalise so much. I've spent some years in a reeally small village somewhere in the middle of Norway, and Jesus Christ are people racist and full of prejudice. Not just the damn brats, but the adults, too! Have a non-Norwegian sounding name? Åh beklager, we're not fucking interested in your skills and qualifications. Hadetbra. This is of course somewhat different in the bigger cities, but in the countryside racism is very much a prevailing issue. I just don't find it fair to not even give people a chance, man. And I'm 3/4 an asshole, so that says something.
I don't recall any such happenings taking place; mind to educate me/ send me a link?
#124 - somekindofname (10/15/2014) [-]
Here is one of them.
And yes, we have to be educated in generalization/stereotypes and why they exist. They should only account for some thirty percent of our first impressions and be discounted after first contact.
#90 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/15/2014) [-]
but the problem isntthatthe swedish is the problemmakers, its the immigrants from Grønland, and the eastern part of Oslo. i read and interwiev with White people from Grorudalen, they are afraid to live there, because they are a minority, and there is ALOT of crime in those areas. i think Norway should, instead of throwing them in prison, they shoud just get one chance, and if you fuck up in the first 5 years, you get a one way ticket out of here
#94 - katha (10/15/2014) [-]
Hmm.. I like your idea, at least in theory. But still, what should we do with similar -100% Norwegian- troublemakers? Can't toss them out, too, can we?
Anyway, we'd be getting so much shit from the EU and whatnot that your idea would be impossible to carry out.
...I thought you meant the country Greenland at first. Was confused as fuck.
#85 - xxxsonic fanxxx (10/15/2014) [-]
> yet no-one bats an eye because they "look Norwegian".
The Swedish Culture is very similar to the norwegian one
#92 - katha (10/15/2014) [-]
Yeah, I know. Never claimed anything else.
But the main argument from stuck-up Norwegians is something along the lines of "damn immigrants, coming in here and stealing all our jobs and welfare!" yet all they think of when saying that is "damn dark-skinned people being too close to me for my comfort." We simply use one statement to justify a completely different opinion, and it pisses me off. Either you're against all immigrants, or you specify which ones you're against. I'm German, making me an immigrant, but I don't get the same shit as a Pakistani immigrant who might be way more skilled and dedicated to being a good member of society than me.
#132 - cyellowan (10/15/2014) [-]
I am not sure if you actually speak AND understand Norwegian, so i'll stick to English.
It really depends where in Norway you live though, me staying in Drammen, shit gets a LOT different.
It's almost as if, by DNA, something unethical and awful AT TIMES power darker skinned people, making them do illegal, retarded shit, RATHER than it being done to white skinned people.
ALSO, by history, and THUS by DNA and environment, which general type of person has been going out in the world and done just incredible things? What i see, read about, and experience... What i have seen other people also mention is how the social norms of these people are going down the drain.
Here in drammen, black people move in, get 7 children, act nice, gets a job, raise their children in such a way that makes 2 random little shits on the street threaten 3 metalheads that are 4 years older than them with a fucking pocket knife as long as your pinky finger?
A WHOLE shopping chain in Olso run by SLAVE LABOR? Illegally imported black people?
I also want to point out how during my childhood, RARELY, you would hear any news of any black people doing anything of criminal nature in Norway, but as time went on, the white people killing other people for retarded reasons started to get outshined by darker skinned folks. What the fuck is up with that? Norway consists of about 4 Million white people and 1 million dark skinned folks, and they still accomplish media coverage as if that was their intent?
What really locks me onto this being a deep issue that just NEED to be fixed is from a 100% random youtube video i went into 2 year ago. Some muslim-esc stranger swore that their "master plan" was to slowly but surely out-number Norwegians by moving into our country. The matter of fact that some fuck with broken English spewed out something that literary seems insane, and yet he can NOT be stopped even if it is NOT someone's agenda.. I am not against the people, but their shitty, retarded way of life.
#212 - katha (10/16/2014) [-]
Oh, I've been here for 6 years and speak the language better than several of my native classmates. So if you prefer Norwegian, go for it.
So what you're essentially saying is that something triggers black immigrants to misbehave once they enter Norway? Or do you think that they're just as 'fucked up' when in their country of origin?
Anyway, of course some immigrants are bound to get into violent clashes with our culture and our ethics.. But you know what I believe? I believe that's mainly for two reasons. One: Norway is a gentle country. We don't like to hurt people, our politicians are made out of water and bullshit and don't have any sort of backbone (eg saying "we're proud not to be part of the EU" while licking the dirt off EU's boots, or how they treat Breivik in prison... "oh no he's going on a hunger strike, I guess we gotta buy him the newest model of the PlayStation then"- FOR FUCKS SAKE, tie him up and force-feed him you spineless pieces of shit)
And two: We have this general attitude towards immigrants, like a membrane that keeps them out from our inner circles. So of course, if they don't feel like they belong in the community, they will form their own flocks, they'll start gangs, they'll do their own little riots to protest against always being the 'outcast'. Please keep in mind that these are generalisations. There will- luckily- always be exceptions, and sadly there also are a lot of immigrants from those countries with a poor society and terrible cultures, and they come here to exploit Norway's wealth. But again, Point One, we're too mild on crimes. Yes we focus on rehabilitation and that's fucking fantastic, believe me I love it, but sometimes we need to toughen up a bit.
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