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| #550 - Okay. So does homosexuality. Is that a mental illness? [+] (11 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
| and for that matter, on what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? And don't just say that they do, say why. Are scientists, who go against biology, to cure genetic disease, also mentally ill? Wrong, you said that a mental illness is something that goes against biology, evolution and the need to survive and procreate. My point is, I seriously doubt you actually believe that, otherwise you'd contradict a lot of your own beliefs, and therefore, you don't really have any grounds using it as your reason for deciding that trans-gendered people are mentally ill. But again, great use of the terminology! But that suggest that what transgendered people are doing does ANYTHING to affect humanity! Skateboarders do more to hurt themselves than further humanity, by your logic, they are also mentally ill? You can accuse me of being a bigot and giving straw men all you like but the fact remains your reasoning takes 2 seconds to show for how fallible it is. But again, for someone claiming how much of a bigot I am, you've sure dodged a lot of points. I'll just ask again, can't hurt. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. Still hasn't been answered. Are you going to, or does this question just make me a bigot? Look, I'm not going to bother arguing something like this when proffessionals have already had this argument years before us. 'In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.' Yes, that's from wikipedia, but you can look it up elsewhere as it is a common fact. Not to mention, the fact that people even consider homosexuality a bad thing is a relatively recent thing. It was only really deemed an unhealthy practice in america when all of these elitist views were put into place, around about the 1920s. The simple fact that most bigoted people refuse to admit, is that there is nothing natural about homophobia. It's a simple argument, but it's true; While homosexuality is found in a wide variety of animals, homophobia is only found in one. Either way I'm done, you're obviously too far gone to consider any other world view than your own, and too concerned with maintaining your intellectual ego to uphold a decent conversation. | ||
| #543 - I can't be bothered to argue semantics anymore either. But ser… [+] (4 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
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rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] It is harmful to society though. Sex is an major part of our lives and affects us in ways we do not understand. Some psychologists would even go as far as saying everything we do, we do to get laid. Keeping that in mind you can extrapolate that sexual deviancy is not a good thing for society. Once people start seeing sex as a normal thing you can play around then things start to go down hill. There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred. Most Empires and civilizations started to accept things like premarital sex and homosexuality during their declines. To quote Saladin, "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". That is why transexuality is wrong. You're playing around with something that is not supposed to be toyed with. This is tantamount to letting the nukes go off. So no it does not affect me but it will bring society to its knees. "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". Quote is completely misplaced, there is no inherent = connection to young people and other sexualities. Can't quote said psychologists, so I don't see how that argument is any different to someone saying that psychologists can say that sex and achievement have no correlation. 'There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred' So you're assuming tansgendered people don't hold sex (either the act or gender) as sacred? Then why would they care enough to change it? And as for empires accepting such concepts in their decline, that's basically the equivalent in a fallacy of causation as tribes folk saying 'Hey, I did a dance and it rained the next day! Science!' I.E it proves absolutely nothing. #596 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] Dude it is well known that pervasive sexual deviancy is always seen during the decline of civilizations. It destroys the family unit and in turn fucks up the younger generations. It is naturally revolting to the average person because biology is telling us "fuck that". Why are you so opposed to these ideas? You know exactly the point I'm trying to make but all you do is jumping at ambiguities and bringing up random points. If you want more info read libido dominandi. I'm going to sleep. Might respond to you tomorrow. Why am I so opposed to those idea's? You're just sugercoating hate and calling it an idea. Why are you so opposed to something that doesn't affect you? You keep using this very far fetched argument that this kind of behaviour is seen in the decline of civilizations, yet have no proof to back up that wild claim. I'm not jumping at ambiguities, your logic is full of holes. And seriously, you are some kind of brainwashed if you think alternate sexualities 'fuck up' the family unit. All that opinion is is years worth of indoctrination that there is only one true family unit, a very american thing which needs to stop. I mean seriously, do I need to explain to you why it's wrong to tell people how to live their lives? Like why the fuck is that even a question? As long as these people are hardworking, productive people, who support their families, you have fuck all proof that they 'destroy the family unit'. | ||
| #537 - Nice usage of a term you don't fully understand, but whatever.… [+] (13 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
| and for that matter, on what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? And don't just say that they do, say why. Are scientists, who go against biology, to cure genetic disease, also mentally ill? Wrong, you said that a mental illness is something that goes against biology, evolution and the need to survive and procreate. My point is, I seriously doubt you actually believe that, otherwise you'd contradict a lot of your own beliefs, and therefore, you don't really have any grounds using it as your reason for deciding that trans-gendered people are mentally ill. But again, great use of the terminology! But that suggest that what transgendered people are doing does ANYTHING to affect humanity! Skateboarders do more to hurt themselves than further humanity, by your logic, they are also mentally ill? You can accuse me of being a bigot and giving straw men all you like but the fact remains your reasoning takes 2 seconds to show for how fallible it is. But again, for someone claiming how much of a bigot I am, you've sure dodged a lot of points. I'll just ask again, can't hurt. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. Still hasn't been answered. Are you going to, or does this question just make me a bigot? Look, I'm not going to bother arguing something like this when proffessionals have already had this argument years before us. 'In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.' Yes, that's from wikipedia, but you can look it up elsewhere as it is a common fact. Not to mention, the fact that people even consider homosexuality a bad thing is a relatively recent thing. It was only really deemed an unhealthy practice in america when all of these elitist views were put into place, around about the 1920s. The simple fact that most bigoted people refuse to admit, is that there is nothing natural about homophobia. It's a simple argument, but it's true; While homosexuality is found in a wide variety of animals, homophobia is only found in one. Either way I'm done, you're obviously too far gone to consider any other world view than your own, and too concerned with maintaining your intellectual ego to uphold a decent conversation. | ||
| #520 - Nice way to just completely dodge my point once proved wrong, … [+] (6 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
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rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] All words are ambiguous friend. If they all had just one or more solid meanings attached to them then literature would be non existent. You used liberal in one context. I used it in another context. You attempted to try to dismantle my argument by commenting on how I used a certain word because you did not understand it the context. That is a dead end that leads to nothing as it does not discredit my ideas or propagate yours. But lets get onto the real subject at hand. Why do you think being trans is okay? I can't be bothered to argue semantics anymore either. But seriously, are you actually asking my why i think being trans is ok? Because I don't see who it harms, that's why. The same reason I consider most things in the world okay. How, in any way shape or form, does the content of someone's pants affect my life in any way? Even less so, how does the original content of a person's pants affect anything either? #570 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] It is harmful to society though. Sex is an major part of our lives and affects us in ways we do not understand. Some psychologists would even go as far as saying everything we do, we do to get laid. Keeping that in mind you can extrapolate that sexual deviancy is not a good thing for society. Once people start seeing sex as a normal thing you can play around then things start to go down hill. There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred. Most Empires and civilizations started to accept things like premarital sex and homosexuality during their declines. To quote Saladin, "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". That is why transexuality is wrong. You're playing around with something that is not supposed to be toyed with. This is tantamount to letting the nukes go off. So no it does not affect me but it will bring society to its knees. "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". Quote is completely misplaced, there is no inherent = connection to young people and other sexualities. Can't quote said psychologists, so I don't see how that argument is any different to someone saying that psychologists can say that sex and achievement have no correlation. 'There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred' So you're assuming tansgendered people don't hold sex (either the act or gender) as sacred? Then why would they care enough to change it? And as for empires accepting such concepts in their decline, that's basically the equivalent in a fallacy of causation as tribes folk saying 'Hey, I did a dance and it rained the next day! Science!' I.E it proves absolutely nothing. #596 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] Dude it is well known that pervasive sexual deviancy is always seen during the decline of civilizations. It destroys the family unit and in turn fucks up the younger generations. It is naturally revolting to the average person because biology is telling us "fuck that". Why are you so opposed to these ideas? You know exactly the point I'm trying to make but all you do is jumping at ambiguities and bringing up random points. If you want more info read libido dominandi. I'm going to sleep. Might respond to you tomorrow. Why am I so opposed to those idea's? You're just sugercoating hate and calling it an idea. Why are you so opposed to something that doesn't affect you? You keep using this very far fetched argument that this kind of behaviour is seen in the decline of civilizations, yet have no proof to back up that wild claim. I'm not jumping at ambiguities, your logic is full of holes. And seriously, you are some kind of brainwashed if you think alternate sexualities 'fuck up' the family unit. All that opinion is is years worth of indoctrination that there is only one true family unit, a very american thing which needs to stop. I mean seriously, do I need to explain to you why it's wrong to tell people how to live their lives? Like why the fuck is that even a question? As long as these people are hardworking, productive people, who support their families, you have fuck all proof that they 'destroy the family unit'. | ||
| #505 - Assuming you're not being a child, and referring to the litera… [+] (15 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
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rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] No, but like I said, wanting to chop of your dick and pretend to be a girl is a mental illness. You need to take into account varying extremes, suffering from being different is normal but people grow out of it. Cutting of your dick is a whole new extreme. So don't strawman my argument. Nice usage of a term you don't fully understand, but whatever. So you just get to draw the line at different 'extremes' arbitrarily? Where are these lines then? At the end of the day, your dick is just a clump of cells decided by your DNA, and I personally wouldn't go down the route of arguing that DNA is always a solid guideline to go by. But anyway, you still haven't said why wanting to chop off your dick is a mental illness. People don't just grow out of feeling different, in some cases sure, they might get over whatever troubled them with age, but what about race? Where are these random lines in what is considered extreme getting drawn and by whom? and for that matter, on what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? And don't just say that they do, say why. Are scientists, who go against biology, to cure genetic disease, also mentally ill? Wrong, you said that a mental illness is something that goes against biology, evolution and the need to survive and procreate. My point is, I seriously doubt you actually believe that, otherwise you'd contradict a lot of your own beliefs, and therefore, you don't really have any grounds using it as your reason for deciding that trans-gendered people are mentally ill. But again, great use of the terminology! But that suggest that what transgendered people are doing does ANYTHING to affect humanity! Skateboarders do more to hurt themselves than further humanity, by your logic, they are also mentally ill? You can accuse me of being a bigot and giving straw men all you like but the fact remains your reasoning takes 2 seconds to show for how fallible it is. But again, for someone claiming how much of a bigot I am, you've sure dodged a lot of points. I'll just ask again, can't hurt. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. Still hasn't been answered. Are you going to, or does this question just make me a bigot? Look, I'm not going to bother arguing something like this when proffessionals have already had this argument years before us. 'In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.' Yes, that's from wikipedia, but you can look it up elsewhere as it is a common fact. Not to mention, the fact that people even consider homosexuality a bad thing is a relatively recent thing. It was only really deemed an unhealthy practice in america when all of these elitist views were put into place, around about the 1920s. The simple fact that most bigoted people refuse to admit, is that there is nothing natural about homophobia. It's a simple argument, but it's true; While homosexuality is found in a wide variety of animals, homophobia is only found in one. Either way I'm done, you're obviously too far gone to consider any other world view than your own, and too concerned with maintaining your intellectual ego to uphold a decent conversation. | ||
| #490 - Liberal isn't a politcal party before anything else, it is a m… [+] (8 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
| Nice way to just completely dodge my point once proved wrong, which is funny because I believe you attempted to argue the point in an earlier comment. Words (real words, found in the dictionary, not slang) have solid meanings attached to them. If you want to argue that, then go ahead and speak whatever gibberish you want, but don't expect people to take you seriously. #529 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] All words are ambiguous friend. If they all had just one or more solid meanings attached to them then literature would be non existent. You used liberal in one context. I used it in another context. You attempted to try to dismantle my argument by commenting on how I used a certain word because you did not understand it the context. That is a dead end that leads to nothing as it does not discredit my ideas or propagate yours. But lets get onto the real subject at hand. Why do you think being trans is okay? I can't be bothered to argue semantics anymore either. But seriously, are you actually asking my why i think being trans is ok? Because I don't see who it harms, that's why. The same reason I consider most things in the world okay. How, in any way shape or form, does the content of someone's pants affect my life in any way? Even less so, how does the original content of a person's pants affect anything either? #570 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] It is harmful to society though. Sex is an major part of our lives and affects us in ways we do not understand. Some psychologists would even go as far as saying everything we do, we do to get laid. Keeping that in mind you can extrapolate that sexual deviancy is not a good thing for society. Once people start seeing sex as a normal thing you can play around then things start to go down hill. There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred. Most Empires and civilizations started to accept things like premarital sex and homosexuality during their declines. To quote Saladin, "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". That is why transexuality is wrong. You're playing around with something that is not supposed to be toyed with. This is tantamount to letting the nukes go off. So no it does not affect me but it will bring society to its knees. "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". Quote is completely misplaced, there is no inherent = connection to young people and other sexualities. Can't quote said psychologists, so I don't see how that argument is any different to someone saying that psychologists can say that sex and achievement have no correlation. 'There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred' So you're assuming tansgendered people don't hold sex (either the act or gender) as sacred? Then why would they care enough to change it? And as for empires accepting such concepts in their decline, that's basically the equivalent in a fallacy of causation as tribes folk saying 'Hey, I did a dance and it rained the next day! Science!' I.E it proves absolutely nothing. #596 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] Dude it is well known that pervasive sexual deviancy is always seen during the decline of civilizations. It destroys the family unit and in turn fucks up the younger generations. It is naturally revolting to the average person because biology is telling us "fuck that". Why are you so opposed to these ideas? You know exactly the point I'm trying to make but all you do is jumping at ambiguities and bringing up random points. If you want more info read libido dominandi. I'm going to sleep. Might respond to you tomorrow. Why am I so opposed to those idea's? You're just sugercoating hate and calling it an idea. Why are you so opposed to something that doesn't affect you? You keep using this very far fetched argument that this kind of behaviour is seen in the decline of civilizations, yet have no proof to back up that wild claim. I'm not jumping at ambiguities, your logic is full of holes. And seriously, you are some kind of brainwashed if you think alternate sexualities 'fuck up' the family unit. All that opinion is is years worth of indoctrination that there is only one true family unit, a very american thing which needs to stop. I mean seriously, do I need to explain to you why it's wrong to tell people how to live their lives? Like why the fuck is that even a question? As long as these people are hardworking, productive people, who support their families, you have fuck all proof that they 'destroy the family unit'. | ||
| #447 - Well, if you were to actually look up the definition of mental… [+] (17 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
| Assuming you're not being a child, and referring to the literal pain that must cause, I don't see how that's any different from the suffering of wanting to identify as something different to what you are. By your logic then, does everyone who has suffered as a result of being part of a group that does not satisfy their own needs and wants (say in school, for a simple example) have a mental illness? #524 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] No, but like I said, wanting to chop of your dick and pretend to be a girl is a mental illness. You need to take into account varying extremes, suffering from being different is normal but people grow out of it. Cutting of your dick is a whole new extreme. So don't strawman my argument. Nice usage of a term you don't fully understand, but whatever. So you just get to draw the line at different 'extremes' arbitrarily? Where are these lines then? At the end of the day, your dick is just a clump of cells decided by your DNA, and I personally wouldn't go down the route of arguing that DNA is always a solid guideline to go by. But anyway, you still haven't said why wanting to chop off your dick is a mental illness. People don't just grow out of feeling different, in some cases sure, they might get over whatever troubled them with age, but what about race? Where are these random lines in what is considered extreme getting drawn and by whom? and for that matter, on what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? And don't just say that they do, say why. Are scientists, who go against biology, to cure genetic disease, also mentally ill? Wrong, you said that a mental illness is something that goes against biology, evolution and the need to survive and procreate. My point is, I seriously doubt you actually believe that, otherwise you'd contradict a lot of your own beliefs, and therefore, you don't really have any grounds using it as your reason for deciding that trans-gendered people are mentally ill. But again, great use of the terminology! But that suggest that what transgendered people are doing does ANYTHING to affect humanity! Skateboarders do more to hurt themselves than further humanity, by your logic, they are also mentally ill? You can accuse me of being a bigot and giving straw men all you like but the fact remains your reasoning takes 2 seconds to show for how fallible it is. But again, for someone claiming how much of a bigot I am, you've sure dodged a lot of points. I'll just ask again, can't hurt. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. Still hasn't been answered. Are you going to, or does this question just make me a bigot? Look, I'm not going to bother arguing something like this when proffessionals have already had this argument years before us. 'In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.' Yes, that's from wikipedia, but you can look it up elsewhere as it is a common fact. Not to mention, the fact that people even consider homosexuality a bad thing is a relatively recent thing. It was only really deemed an unhealthy practice in america when all of these elitist views were put into place, around about the 1920s. The simple fact that most bigoted people refuse to admit, is that there is nothing natural about homophobia. It's a simple argument, but it's true; While homosexuality is found in a wide variety of animals, homophobia is only found in one. Either way I'm done, you're obviously too far gone to consider any other world view than your own, and too concerned with maintaining your intellectual ego to uphold a decent conversation. | ||
| #436 - Wwhat, the Wikipedia definition? What other definition is ther… [+] (10 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
| Bro, that is the most pathetically truncated definitions ever released, and wiki is not a dictionary. Liberal as defined by Meriam Webster (an actual dictionary) in teh context you are using is believing that the government should be active in supporting social and political change. Not what you said. I'm not some sort of right wing nutjob, I support someone right to do this, but you need to realize that noone in politics gives a fuck about you and they are all out for their own gain. Liberal isn't a politcal party before anything else, it is a mindframe or thought process. Which most dictionaries state as at least one of their descriptions. I don't give a crap about what political parties support this right, that was never a part of the argument at hand, and is a pretty piss poor attempt at a strawman on your part. That's probably because I'm not an american. The fact that 'no-one [in politics] gives a fuck about you and they are all out for their own gain' has very little relevance to your beliefs anyway. Nice way to just completely dodge my point once proved wrong, which is funny because I believe you attempted to argue the point in an earlier comment. Words (real words, found in the dictionary, not slang) have solid meanings attached to them. If you want to argue that, then go ahead and speak whatever gibberish you want, but don't expect people to take you seriously. #529 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] All words are ambiguous friend. If they all had just one or more solid meanings attached to them then literature would be non existent. You used liberal in one context. I used it in another context. You attempted to try to dismantle my argument by commenting on how I used a certain word because you did not understand it the context. That is a dead end that leads to nothing as it does not discredit my ideas or propagate yours. But lets get onto the real subject at hand. Why do you think being trans is okay? I can't be bothered to argue semantics anymore either. But seriously, are you actually asking my why i think being trans is ok? Because I don't see who it harms, that's why. The same reason I consider most things in the world okay. How, in any way shape or form, does the content of someone's pants affect my life in any way? Even less so, how does the original content of a person's pants affect anything either? #570 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] It is harmful to society though. Sex is an major part of our lives and affects us in ways we do not understand. Some psychologists would even go as far as saying everything we do, we do to get laid. Keeping that in mind you can extrapolate that sexual deviancy is not a good thing for society. Once people start seeing sex as a normal thing you can play around then things start to go down hill. There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred. Most Empires and civilizations started to accept things like premarital sex and homosexuality during their declines. To quote Saladin, "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". That is why transexuality is wrong. You're playing around with something that is not supposed to be toyed with. This is tantamount to letting the nukes go off. So no it does not affect me but it will bring society to its knees. "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". Quote is completely misplaced, there is no inherent = connection to young people and other sexualities. Can't quote said psychologists, so I don't see how that argument is any different to someone saying that psychologists can say that sex and achievement have no correlation. 'There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred' So you're assuming tansgendered people don't hold sex (either the act or gender) as sacred? Then why would they care enough to change it? And as for empires accepting such concepts in their decline, that's basically the equivalent in a fallacy of causation as tribes folk saying 'Hey, I did a dance and it rained the next day! Science!' I.E it proves absolutely nothing. #596 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] Dude it is well known that pervasive sexual deviancy is always seen during the decline of civilizations. It destroys the family unit and in turn fucks up the younger generations. It is naturally revolting to the average person because biology is telling us "fuck that". Why are you so opposed to these ideas? You know exactly the point I'm trying to make but all you do is jumping at ambiguities and bringing up random points. If you want more info read libido dominandi. I'm going to sleep. Might respond to you tomorrow. Why am I so opposed to those idea's? You're just sugercoating hate and calling it an idea. Why are you so opposed to something that doesn't affect you? You keep using this very far fetched argument that this kind of behaviour is seen in the decline of civilizations, yet have no proof to back up that wild claim. I'm not jumping at ambiguities, your logic is full of holes. And seriously, you are some kind of brainwashed if you think alternate sexualities 'fuck up' the family unit. All that opinion is is years worth of indoctrination that there is only one true family unit, a very american thing which needs to stop. I mean seriously, do I need to explain to you why it's wrong to tell people how to live their lives? Like why the fuck is that even a question? As long as these people are hardworking, productive people, who support their families, you have fuck all proof that they 'destroy the family unit'. | ||
| #408 - 'just because I am not liberal does not mean I am a bigot.' … [+] (32 new replies) | 04/11/2014 on whore | 0 |
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rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] Your taking the definition of liberal literally and not in the America liberal context which is a totally different from classical liberalism. If you knew anything about the world you would be able to work that out, instead of looking for ambiguities in my comment. And please explain to me how being trans is not a mental illness. So why don't you take your autistic ass out of here. Well, if you were to actually look up the definition of mental illness, it refers to a condition which causes suffering in the individual, which is not the case in trans-gendered people. That's literally 2 seconds worth of googling. And I'm the autist? Assuming you're not being a child, and referring to the literal pain that must cause, I don't see how that's any different from the suffering of wanting to identify as something different to what you are. By your logic then, does everyone who has suffered as a result of being part of a group that does not satisfy their own needs and wants (say in school, for a simple example) have a mental illness? #524 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] No, but like I said, wanting to chop of your dick and pretend to be a girl is a mental illness. You need to take into account varying extremes, suffering from being different is normal but people grow out of it. Cutting of your dick is a whole new extreme. So don't strawman my argument. Nice usage of a term you don't fully understand, but whatever. So you just get to draw the line at different 'extremes' arbitrarily? Where are these lines then? At the end of the day, your dick is just a clump of cells decided by your DNA, and I personally wouldn't go down the route of arguing that DNA is always a solid guideline to go by. But anyway, you still haven't said why wanting to chop off your dick is a mental illness. People don't just grow out of feeling different, in some cases sure, they might get over whatever troubled them with age, but what about race? Where are these random lines in what is considered extreme getting drawn and by whom? and for that matter, on what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? And don't just say that they do, say why. Are scientists, who go against biology, to cure genetic disease, also mentally ill? Wrong, you said that a mental illness is something that goes against biology, evolution and the need to survive and procreate. My point is, I seriously doubt you actually believe that, otherwise you'd contradict a lot of your own beliefs, and therefore, you don't really have any grounds using it as your reason for deciding that trans-gendered people are mentally ill. But again, great use of the terminology! But that suggest that what transgendered people are doing does ANYTHING to affect humanity! Skateboarders do more to hurt themselves than further humanity, by your logic, they are also mentally ill? You can accuse me of being a bigot and giving straw men all you like but the fact remains your reasoning takes 2 seconds to show for how fallible it is. But again, for someone claiming how much of a bigot I am, you've sure dodged a lot of points. I'll just ask again, can't hurt. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. On what grounds do going against ANY of those topics that you mentioned, relate to mental illness? An average person would not consider a lot of useful things that don't make them mentally ill for doing so. So that argument is not substantial. Still hasn't been answered. Are you going to, or does this question just make me a bigot? Look, I'm not going to bother arguing something like this when proffessionals have already had this argument years before us. 'In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.' Yes, that's from wikipedia, but you can look it up elsewhere as it is a common fact. Not to mention, the fact that people even consider homosexuality a bad thing is a relatively recent thing. It was only really deemed an unhealthy practice in america when all of these elitist views were put into place, around about the 1920s. The simple fact that most bigoted people refuse to admit, is that there is nothing natural about homophobia. It's a simple argument, but it's true; While homosexuality is found in a wide variety of animals, homophobia is only found in one. Either way I'm done, you're obviously too far gone to consider any other world view than your own, and too concerned with maintaining your intellectual ego to uphold a decent conversation. Says the guy using a hilariously one sided definition of the term liberal. TL;DR you are one brainwashed motherfucker. Wwhat, the Wikipedia definition? What other definition is there? Care to elaborate on any of your points instead of just name-calling? Because somehow, I don't feel like the brainwashed one in this conversation... Bro, that is the most pathetically truncated definitions ever released, and wiki is not a dictionary. Liberal as defined by Meriam Webster (an actual dictionary) in teh context you are using is believing that the government should be active in supporting social and political change. Not what you said. I'm not some sort of right wing nutjob, I support someone right to do this, but you need to realize that noone in politics gives a fuck about you and they are all out for their own gain. Liberal isn't a politcal party before anything else, it is a mindframe or thought process. Which most dictionaries state as at least one of their descriptions. I don't give a crap about what political parties support this right, that was never a part of the argument at hand, and is a pretty piss poor attempt at a strawman on your part. That's probably because I'm not an american. The fact that 'no-one [in politics] gives a fuck about you and they are all out for their own gain' has very little relevance to your beliefs anyway. Nice way to just completely dodge my point once proved wrong, which is funny because I believe you attempted to argue the point in an earlier comment. Words (real words, found in the dictionary, not slang) have solid meanings attached to them. If you want to argue that, then go ahead and speak whatever gibberish you want, but don't expect people to take you seriously. #529 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] All words are ambiguous friend. If they all had just one or more solid meanings attached to them then literature would be non existent. You used liberal in one context. I used it in another context. You attempted to try to dismantle my argument by commenting on how I used a certain word because you did not understand it the context. That is a dead end that leads to nothing as it does not discredit my ideas or propagate yours. But lets get onto the real subject at hand. Why do you think being trans is okay? I can't be bothered to argue semantics anymore either. But seriously, are you actually asking my why i think being trans is ok? Because I don't see who it harms, that's why. The same reason I consider most things in the world okay. How, in any way shape or form, does the content of someone's pants affect my life in any way? Even less so, how does the original content of a person's pants affect anything either? #570 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] It is harmful to society though. Sex is an major part of our lives and affects us in ways we do not understand. Some psychologists would even go as far as saying everything we do, we do to get laid. Keeping that in mind you can extrapolate that sexual deviancy is not a good thing for society. Once people start seeing sex as a normal thing you can play around then things start to go down hill. There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred. Most Empires and civilizations started to accept things like premarital sex and homosexuality during their declines. To quote Saladin, "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". That is why transexuality is wrong. You're playing around with something that is not supposed to be toyed with. This is tantamount to letting the nukes go off. So no it does not affect me but it will bring society to its knees. "If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation". Quote is completely misplaced, there is no inherent = connection to young people and other sexualities. Can't quote said psychologists, so I don't see how that argument is any different to someone saying that psychologists can say that sex and achievement have no correlation. 'There is a reason most major religions in this world keep sex as something sacred' So you're assuming tansgendered people don't hold sex (either the act or gender) as sacred? Then why would they care enough to change it? And as for empires accepting such concepts in their decline, that's basically the equivalent in a fallacy of causation as tribes folk saying 'Hey, I did a dance and it rained the next day! Science!' I.E it proves absolutely nothing. #596 -
rekumate (04/11/2014) [-] Dude it is well known that pervasive sexual deviancy is always seen during the decline of civilizations. It destroys the family unit and in turn fucks up the younger generations. It is naturally revolting to the average person because biology is telling us "fuck that". Why are you so opposed to these ideas? You know exactly the point I'm trying to make but all you do is jumping at ambiguities and bringing up random points. If you want more info read libido dominandi. I'm going to sleep. Might respond to you tomorrow. Why am I so opposed to those idea's? You're just sugercoating hate and calling it an idea. Why are you so opposed to something that doesn't affect you? You keep using this very far fetched argument that this kind of behaviour is seen in the decline of civilizations, yet have no proof to back up that wild claim. I'm not jumping at ambiguities, your logic is full of holes. And seriously, you are some kind of brainwashed if you think alternate sexualities 'fuck up' the family unit. All that opinion is is years worth of indoctrination that there is only one true family unit, a very american thing which needs to stop. I mean seriously, do I need to explain to you why it's wrong to tell people how to live their lives? Like why the fuck is that even a question? As long as these people are hardworking, productive people, who support their families, you have fuck all proof that they 'destroy the family unit'. | ||
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| Homosexuality is a fluctuating percentage in animals dependent upon the population density of the species, however, there are 0 animals disfiguring their own bodies. It's not bigoted nor bad logic, otherwise about 50% of all males would identify with females and 50% of females would identify with males. If it was so easy to interchange between "Hey I'm a boy but feel like a girl!" or the other way around, you'd see far more of it through-out history, and far more people doing it through-out history (and don't give me any of the "But they were oppressed!" bullshit. I'm sure if it was really that easy and natural, a King would have no problem telling his subjects that he feels pretty and wants them to feel pretty too) Us being able to identify as male or female through make-up, accessories, hair, ect. has NOTHING to do with actually having surgery or changing your hormones. That's why there's actually a difference between Transvestites and Transsexuals. Also, homosexual necrophilia has occurred with ducks, sex trafficking has occurred with dolphins, inter-species mating has occurred in dogs, and eating your parents or lover after sex has occurred with insects, but I'm sure I will never see you at a rally supporting any of those things; you oppressive bigot. Whoa buddy, don't sit there making assumptions. It's fine in my opinion for people to do whatever they want, but don't expect it to be normal and don't expect it to be healthy. Well realistically, 'normal' is defined by the majority. It's not healthy though, that's correct. There is something obviously wrong with them, but the question is whether it's okay for them to get sex changes if they really feel like it (and I say it should be), or if they should go in for psychiatric help. I mean, nobody should have to hate their own body, and we have advanced so far in body modification because we want to be able to change how we look and feel about ourselves. While transexuality is an extreme case, it's not as if it's much different. Like I said, if you want to do it go ahead. It's your right too. But don't then sit there and demand everyone around you act like everything is normal or everything is ok. This is a mentally unstable condition, and I wouldn't be ok with people with other mental instabilities teaching either. | ||
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pyrusd (04/10/2014) [-] lol. I think everyone does that. I'm just covering my bases and using the arguments that I've heard from the "opposing side." I'm German and Swedish and there are lots of jokes out there that should be offensive towards those people but....I don't let it get to me. OH YOU DIRTY KRAUT....He must be talking to that German over there, not me, so I', not involved in this convo. Of which others can't seem to grasp that concept. | ||
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| if you hated it this much you could easily take the time to learn, I used to be into that shit and in the cadets went to camps that taught you how to survive in the wilderness, this bitch says there's no way out. Realistically she's like the rest of us, to lazy and comfortable in her home to go figure it out, like I said I hate people like this, just depressed cynical assholes | ||
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