well safe according to whom...the american government tried to claim that GM food was safe but when Europeans did their own independent testing they found it was actually harmful as fuck.......so the vertical farm food would need 2nd and 3rd opinions from unbiased testing to make sure

it is noble that you make some attempt to play nice with the world but why so accepting of letting the world go to shit, this planet has alot more room to spare to provide for all humans to life just the way we're doing it is fucking the world up, if we put a little more effort into things we could easily make the world able to sustain many more people before we have to worry

tearing the shit out of nature isnt the way to do it, if we applied the food forest plans like some other countries are doing we'd be able to have an endless supply of real and healthy food

Hm yeah probably true. I have to say for myself, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but at the moment I'm not ready to do more. When I finish my studies, get a job and my life will hopefully at least be a bit like I hope, I'll do more, but as a student I rather want to enjoy my life now, than worry about everything.

well....the way mankind is just reproducing without any concept of sustainability, soon every last bit of nature will be torn down to provide homes for them and livestock farms to feed them
nature will be in epic shit because there will be no natural areas to generate the proper rain levels to make the water needed to support life as it should be, and no real plant life to produice healthy oxygen for man to breathe

we'll all end up eating shitty mass-produced food and artificially produced air, that, with the way corporations are going, we will have to pay for in order to live

its bad enough Nestle is gearing towards privatizing fresh water, how long before someone talks about privatizing air......

the more man destroys, the more simple things we take for granted come to being hard to acquire commodities and targets for coming under control of one power or another to manage their rationing

You know, there are already a lot of scientists working on this problem. There were plenty of posts on FJ, haven't you seem them? There are already green houses or vertical farms. They produce the same quality food like normal farms but more efficient and safer.

Anyway, I just want to be clear now. I'm not a maniac or something who goes everywhere and shits on nature. I recycle, seperate garbage and try to drive fuel-saving. I like the planet like it is now too and I want to keep it like that as well. But in my opinion it's just a matter of time. We are already at a population of 7 Billion people, still rising. It might take decades or even centuries but at some point there won't be enough room for everyone. And as you said, because we can, we will take the whole earth and the whole nature gets destroyed. That's why I don't bother so much, I know that some points they'll die out anyway.

well safe according to whom...the american government tried to claim that GM food was safe but when Europeans did their own independent testing they found it was actually harmful as fuck.......so the vertical farm food would need 2nd and 3rd opinions from unbiased testing to make sure

it is noble that you make some attempt to play nice with the world but why so accepting of letting the world go to shit, this planet has alot more room to spare to provide for all humans to life just the way we're doing it is fucking the world up, if we put a little more effort into things we could easily make the world able to sustain many more people before we have to worry

tearing the shit out of nature isnt the way to do it, if we applied the food forest plans like some other countries are doing we'd be able to have an endless supply of real and healthy food

Hm yeah probably true. I have to say for myself, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but at the moment I'm not ready to do more. When I finish my studies, get a job and my life will hopefully at least be a bit like I hope, I'll do more, but as a student I rather want to enjoy my life now, than worry about everything.

ahem....by supporting mankind rampaging over everything in a neverending lifestyle of conquest and destruction, youre no better than the viking marauders who attacked people at random, killing everyone and burning villages to the ground...BECAUSE YOU CAN

people like you are the reason the world is going to shit, instead of finding ways to live with nature and naturally avoid natures problems, you support destroying everything that could ever endanger mankind.......they way people like you go, there will be no wilderness left anywhere....the planet will just be half concrete covered cities and half grass covered lifestock farms

I never said that I want to destroy all plants on earth.
I also never said that I want to kill all animals.
I said that the place we live in now is a way better now, because we, the humans made it possible to sleep in a warm bed without fearing to get eaten at night.
I said that I think it's ok that parts of nature get destroyed for the sake of humans.
And you know, if it means that every human has a home, food and can live safely, than I'd rather have a planet without wilderness.

well....the way mankind is just reproducing without any concept of sustainability, soon every last bit of nature will be torn down to provide homes for them and livestock farms to feed them
nature will be in epic shit because there will be no natural areas to generate the proper rain levels to make the water needed to support life as it should be, and no real plant life to produice healthy oxygen for man to breathe

we'll all end up eating shitty mass-produced food and artificially produced air, that, with the way corporations are going, we will have to pay for in order to live

its bad enough Nestle is gearing towards privatizing fresh water, how long before someone talks about privatizing air......

the more man destroys, the more simple things we take for granted come to being hard to acquire commodities and targets for coming under control of one power or another to manage their rationing

You know, there are already a lot of scientists working on this problem. There were plenty of posts on FJ, haven't you seem them? There are already green houses or vertical farms. They produce the same quality food like normal farms but more efficient and safer.

Anyway, I just want to be clear now. I'm not a maniac or something who goes everywhere and shits on nature. I recycle, seperate garbage and try to drive fuel-saving. I like the planet like it is now too and I want to keep it like that as well. But in my opinion it's just a matter of time. We are already at a population of 7 Billion people, still rising. It might take decades or even centuries but at some point there won't be enough room for everyone. And as you said, because we can, we will take the whole earth and the whole nature gets destroyed. That's why I don't bother so much, I know that some points they'll die out anyway.

well safe according to whom...the american government tried to claim that GM food was safe but when Europeans did their own independent testing they found it was actually harmful as fuck.......so the vertical farm food would need 2nd and 3rd opinions from unbiased testing to make sure

it is noble that you make some attempt to play nice with the world but why so accepting of letting the world go to shit, this planet has alot more room to spare to provide for all humans to life just the way we're doing it is fucking the world up, if we put a little more effort into things we could easily make the world able to sustain many more people before we have to worry

tearing the shit out of nature isnt the way to do it, if we applied the food forest plans like some other countries are doing we'd be able to have an endless supply of real and healthy food

Hm yeah probably true. I have to say for myself, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but at the moment I'm not ready to do more. When I finish my studies, get a job and my life will hopefully at least be a bit like I hope, I'll do more, but as a student I rather want to enjoy my life now, than worry about everything.

nope

evolution is about the natural decline of weaker species through their own inability to survive in the natural order, what mankind is doing is completely unnatural

mankind is the single most destructive thing in theworld, once we used to live in balance with the world then shit went wrong and we started taking a steaming shit on nature and making it bow down to us

we're not at the top becuase little things like scorpions, spiders etc.....as well as big things like sharks, lions etc, can still fuck us up if they wanted...so mankind in its ignorant fear is just destroying everything so there is nothing to challenge its rule

Yeah, the part where we lived in balance was the part where everyone was living in caves and was just discovering fire.
I don't know, if you hate humanity so much you should just throw your human made pc away, leave your human made home and just go to the natural forrest living with the animals. I'm sure the bears, wolves or whatever will greet you with open arms for thinking of them.

And what the hell, how do you expect animals to fuck us up??

ahem....by supporting mankind rampaging over everything in a neverending lifestyle of conquest and destruction, youre no better than the viking marauders who attacked people at random, killing everyone and burning villages to the ground...BECAUSE YOU CAN

people like you are the reason the world is going to shit, instead of finding ways to live with nature and naturally avoid natures problems, you support destroying everything that could ever endanger mankind.......they way people like you go, there will be no wilderness left anywhere....the planet will just be half concrete covered cities and half grass covered lifestock farms

I never said that I want to destroy all plants on earth.
I also never said that I want to kill all animals.
I said that the place we live in now is a way better now, because we, the humans made it possible to sleep in a warm bed without fearing to get eaten at night.
I said that I think it's ok that parts of nature get destroyed for the sake of humans.
And you know, if it means that every human has a home, food and can live safely, than I'd rather have a planet without wilderness.

well....the way mankind is just reproducing without any concept of sustainability, soon every last bit of nature will be torn down to provide homes for them and livestock farms to feed them
nature will be in epic shit because there will be no natural areas to generate the proper rain levels to make the water needed to support life as it should be, and no real plant life to produice healthy oxygen for man to breathe

we'll all end up eating shitty mass-produced food and artificially produced air, that, with the way corporations are going, we will have to pay for in order to live

its bad enough Nestle is gearing towards privatizing fresh water, how long before someone talks about privatizing air......

the more man destroys, the more simple things we take for granted come to being hard to acquire commodities and targets for coming under control of one power or another to manage their rationing

You know, there are already a lot of scientists working on this problem. There were plenty of posts on FJ, haven't you seem them? There are already green houses or vertical farms. They produce the same quality food like normal farms but more efficient and safer.

Anyway, I just want to be clear now. I'm not a maniac or something who goes everywhere and shits on nature. I recycle, seperate garbage and try to drive fuel-saving. I like the planet like it is now too and I want to keep it like that as well. But in my opinion it's just a matter of time. We are already at a population of 7 Billion people, still rising. It might take decades or even centuries but at some point there won't be enough room for everyone. And as you said, because we can, we will take the whole earth and the whole nature gets destroyed. That's why I don't bother so much, I know that some points they'll die out anyway.

well safe according to whom...the american government tried to claim that GM food was safe but when Europeans did their own independent testing they found it was actually harmful as fuck.......so the vertical farm food would need 2nd and 3rd opinions from unbiased testing to make sure

it is noble that you make some attempt to play nice with the world but why so accepting of letting the world go to shit, this planet has alot more room to spare to provide for all humans to life just the way we're doing it is fucking the world up, if we put a little more effort into things we could easily make the world able to sustain many more people before we have to worry

tearing the shit out of nature isnt the way to do it, if we applied the food forest plans like some other countries are doing we'd be able to have an endless supply of real and healthy food

Hm yeah probably true. I have to say for myself, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but at the moment I'm not ready to do more. When I finish my studies, get a job and my life will hopefully at least be a bit like I hope, I'll do more, but as a student I rather want to enjoy my life now, than worry about everything.

thanks hitler
kill everything to be safe right
fuck nature, fuck the planet, just let mankind fuck itself up, meh

I never said that we should destroy ourselves. I just say that the extinction of animals etc. is how evolution works. The fact that humans don't give a shit about other living things is the main reason we became so powerful. I highly doubt that we would've gotten to the top of the foodchain if our ancestors didn't want to kill some animals because they were scared they'd go extinct.

nope

evolution is about the natural decline of weaker species through their own inability to survive in the natural order, what mankind is doing is completely unnatural

mankind is the single most destructive thing in theworld, once we used to live in balance with the world then shit went wrong and we started taking a steaming shit on nature and making it bow down to us

we're not at the top becuase little things like scorpions, spiders etc.....as well as big things like sharks, lions etc, can still fuck us up if they wanted...so mankind in its ignorant fear is just destroying everything so there is nothing to challenge its rule

Yeah, the part where we lived in balance was the part where everyone was living in caves and was just discovering fire.
I don't know, if you hate humanity so much you should just throw your human made pc away, leave your human made home and just go to the natural forrest living with the animals. I'm sure the bears, wolves or whatever will greet you with open arms for thinking of them.

And what the hell, how do you expect animals to fuck us up??

ahem....by supporting mankind rampaging over everything in a neverending lifestyle of conquest and destruction, youre no better than the viking marauders who attacked people at random, killing everyone and burning villages to the ground...BECAUSE YOU CAN

people like you are the reason the world is going to shit, instead of finding ways to live with nature and naturally avoid natures problems, you support destroying everything that could ever endanger mankind.......they way people like you go, there will be no wilderness left anywhere....the planet will just be half concrete covered cities and half grass covered lifestock farms

I never said that I want to destroy all plants on earth.
I also never said that I want to kill all animals.
I said that the place we live in now is a way better now, because we, the humans made it possible to sleep in a warm bed without fearing to get eaten at night.
I said that I think it's ok that parts of nature get destroyed for the sake of humans.
And you know, if it means that every human has a home, food and can live safely, than I'd rather have a planet without wilderness.

well....the way mankind is just reproducing without any concept of sustainability, soon every last bit of nature will be torn down to provide homes for them and livestock farms to feed them
nature will be in epic shit because there will be no natural areas to generate the proper rain levels to make the water needed to support life as it should be, and no real plant life to produice healthy oxygen for man to breathe

we'll all end up eating shitty mass-produced food and artificially produced air, that, with the way corporations are going, we will have to pay for in order to live

its bad enough Nestle is gearing towards privatizing fresh water, how long before someone talks about privatizing air......

the more man destroys, the more simple things we take for granted come to being hard to acquire commodities and targets for coming under control of one power or another to manage their rationing

You know, there are already a lot of scientists working on this problem. There were plenty of posts on FJ, haven't you seem them? There are already green houses or vertical farms. They produce the same quality food like normal farms but more efficient and safer.

Anyway, I just want to be clear now. I'm not a maniac or something who goes everywhere and shits on nature. I recycle, seperate garbage and try to drive fuel-saving. I like the planet like it is now too and I want to keep it like that as well. But in my opinion it's just a matter of time. We are already at a population of 7 Billion people, still rising. It might take decades or even centuries but at some point there won't be enough room for everyone. And as you said, because we can, we will take the whole earth and the whole nature gets destroyed. That's why I don't bother so much, I know that some points they'll die out anyway.

well safe according to whom...the american government tried to claim that GM food was safe but when Europeans did their own independent testing they found it was actually harmful as fuck.......so the vertical farm food would need 2nd and 3rd opinions from unbiased testing to make sure

it is noble that you make some attempt to play nice with the world but why so accepting of letting the world go to shit, this planet has alot more room to spare to provide for all humans to life just the way we're doing it is fucking the world up, if we put a little more effort into things we could easily make the world able to sustain many more people before we have to worry

tearing the shit out of nature isnt the way to do it, if we applied the food forest plans like some other countries are doing we'd be able to have an endless supply of real and healthy food

Hm yeah probably true. I have to say for myself, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, but at the moment I'm not ready to do more. When I finish my studies, get a job and my life will hopefully at least be a bit like I hope, I'll do more, but as a student I rather want to enjoy my life now, than worry about everything.

I do believe you mean muzzle flare good sir.

gytisout - just so you read this too.
yeah i've heard about gameranger before, is it also with teamspeak?

in a few weeks time i'll make a few posts to see if some people are up for it..
we need a AoM-channel to meet

i never used teamspeak myself so i don't know

you guys should check out gameranger www.gameranger.com/ It's nifty!

gytisout - just so you read this too.
yeah i've heard about gameranger before, is it also with teamspeak?

in a few weeks time i'll make a few posts to see if some people are up for it..
we need a AoM-channel to meet

i never used teamspeak myself so i don't know

we just need to gather some people and a date to play, the rest should be easy, it's not really difficult to set up hamachi/tunngle and we can optionaly search for some teamspeak server

you guys should check out gameranger www.gameranger.com/ It's nifty!

gytisout - just so you read this too.
yeah i've heard about gameranger before, is it also with teamspeak?

in a few weeks time i'll make a few posts to see if some people are up for it..
we need a AoM-channel to meet

i never used teamspeak myself so i don't know

By pecking it.

you must not have been here for long, or paying attention to comment section a lot.
quite a few here on FJ play(ed) it, as it's simply a great game.
sad there haven't been as many custom maps as for warcraft or something..

Hm yeah i mostly read the frontpage of comments so I don't see many conversations. Would be actually cool to meet up in hamachi or tunngle and play some lan games if someone wants to

we just need to gather some people and a date to play, the rest should be easy, it's not really difficult to set up hamachi/tunngle and we can optionaly search for some teamspeak server

you guys should check out gameranger www.gameranger.com/ It's nifty!

gytisout - just so you read this too.
yeah i've heard about gameranger before, is it also with teamspeak?

in a few weeks time i'll make a few posts to see if some people are up for it..
we need a AoM-channel to meet

i never used teamspeak myself so i don't know