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#216 - Just wanted to clear one point, he mentioned the two hadith an… 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
#87 - My apologize, I feel the need to correct one thing about my st… 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
#82 - Please check the comments below, I mentioned that this was pro…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... +2
User avatar #191 - frichein (02/09/2015) [-]
Why does a 50 something year old man need a 9 12 or 15 year old as a bride?

Has anyone has met a girl of those ages? Even with today's education, girls that old are usually dumb as bricks. Now how competent could a young desert girl from 1300 years ago be? My question is; if not sex, what is the attraction to a young bride?
#80 - I can feel your lack of respect towards me and Islam. This…  [+] (12 new replies) 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
User avatar #83 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah i have stated that i do have an immense lack of respect towards Islam in previous comments.

Does not mean what i am saying is not true, my lack of respect comes from thoroughly researching the religion as a whole from an outsiders perspective.
All i did was give you reliable information from one of Islams holy books after all.
User avatar #96 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Well if you actually read his link you would see that it gives quite a few sources of Muslim historians alive around the time of Muhammad giving vastly different times to how old Aisha actually was. They vary and one even has 15 at betrothal and 19 at consummation. Not saying anything is definitive but I would put her age into question, now you are going to say that the main part of the Quran says otherwise but the Quran could be wrong. It is an amalgamation of all the history surrounding one guy so I question the legitimacy of anything said. Keep an open mind, maybe you're wrong or maybe you're right. With something as uncertain as religious history trust me I have been in every kind of religion from Hinduism to Zoroastrianism and rarely is it cut and dry when faith gets involved it might do you good to hate the thing you are studying less as it biases you to stop searching once you find something that justifies what you want rather than what might actually be true. Or not, I don't care really I just saw a bunch of historical links and I like history so I thought I'd look at them.
#216 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Just wanted to clear one point, he mentioned the two hadith and it is true that they are in the books. However, any hadith have to be validated by scholars with the use of the Quran and the historical events surrounding the time of the hadith.

And those two hadiths are dismissed as they don't correlate with either.

About the statement that he claimes is in the Quran, I've never read it before, and I read the Quran more than once. If he truely performed his research about Islam then I would like for him to tell me the name of the Sora and the Number of the Aya where it's mentioned an I would be more than happy to read it.
User avatar #98 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Yes muslim scholars like christain scholars bicker about small things in a religion, just like the controversy over the number 666.
That does not change the 500+ other things that are disgusting littered throughout the sacred texts, if i need to point them out to you then you truly are blind.
User avatar #101 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
I know it is a tired argument but you could do that with many religions.

I stopped caring after I read that you need to burn the chair a women sits on if she is on her period in the bible. Shit it wack everywhere and yeah some dicks in some sand dune are using it justify killing people but the guy you see on the subway or in starbucks who is muslim probably doesn't think like that. First world muslims are fine I mean there is the problem of sexism but that is in almost every religious text and third world ones are crazy. Don't let that make you automatically hate people you never have even talked to, that just lazy. Sure the religious text says some crazy shit but that doesn't mean every person in the religion will interpret it that way, depending on the person they could be totally fine. It's a gamble whether or not the person you run into is an asshole no matter who they are but that doesn't mean you should automatically assume they are.
User avatar #104 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
The big problem is there are too many stupid people in the world that do still read that shit man.
User avatar #109 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah man, we need more education in third world countries. Shit is never gonna get better there if no one goes to school. It is sad to see uneducated people get angry then grab what ever is closest to justify their stupidity when there are great modern resources to use where you could learn all sorts of amazing things. At least certain African countries are getting better economies so that is promising. Imagine if we could turn Africa into a center of industrial growth, that would be great. But I'm getting off track here so yeah, dumb people suck.
User avatar #117 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
btw most the muslims i know are african, i know they are much more extreme than muslims from other countries.
User avatar #128 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah it is really hit or miss when it comes to immigrants, I mean I read a biography called A Long Way Gone where a guy from Africa explains how his whole family was killed by warlords, he was drafted into the warlords warband, was forced to be addicted to cocaine, was forced to kill, and saw many of friends die it has a happy ending of him escaping, kicking his addiction, and moving to America to get an education so that was nice but boy was the ride there depressing . Shit is really and truly fucked when it comes to parts of Africa and I half don't want to blame because of where they come from and half want to just sit them down and go "what the fuck is wrong with you?". Honestly I don't know what to say and I can't justify their actions only understand why they do them. They are so used to it that even when they get to a better place they don't know what to do. It is both sad and aggravating at the same time.
User avatar #133 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Well that is the exact reason we have detention centres over here for immigrants, basically guantanamo bays where they are terrorists until proven not to be terrorists for the ones that come illegally by boats
Oi.. you are a muslim... i can ask you...

If you were locked up on an island called Christmas Island for a year would you be extremely mad about the situation?
i swear they put the detention centre on christmas island for that reason lol.
User avatar #137 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Nah I'm not a Muslim, I'm just weird in that I actually enjoy learning about history, philosophy, psychology and other shit. Man it really sucks because you know why they do all these things and act crazy because they were born in crazy and lived their whole life in crazy and when you suddenly plonk them down in urban sprawl where everything works smooth and orderly they don't know how to cope but it is also frustrating that they don't know what do with themselves.

I tell you, life is an enigma.
User avatar #115 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
My biggest problem is when people come from a 3rd world country over to my 1st world country where those resources are available and call me racist for not accepting their religion.
Most Australians are Atheists so we tend to cop a lot of shit from foreigners when we say we do not like what they are teaching even if it is something our society views as wrong.
heck the whole female oppression thing, cunts get their heads kicked in for that all the time over here then they run to the police crying racism when they were simply flogged for being a woman bashing cunt.
#76 - Aisha's (AS) age was never mentioned in the Quran. I was talki…  [+] (14 new replies) 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
#78 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
So you believe shahih al-Bukhari is all horse piss then?

"According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was consummated. For example, Sahih al-Bukhari, considered by many Sunni Muslims as the most authentic book after Quran, states: Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
—Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Marriage_to_Muhammad
#80 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
I can feel your lack of respect towards me and Islam.
This will be my final response to you.

www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
User avatar #83 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah i have stated that i do have an immense lack of respect towards Islam in previous comments.

Does not mean what i am saying is not true, my lack of respect comes from thoroughly researching the religion as a whole from an outsiders perspective.
All i did was give you reliable information from one of Islams holy books after all.
User avatar #96 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Well if you actually read his link you would see that it gives quite a few sources of Muslim historians alive around the time of Muhammad giving vastly different times to how old Aisha actually was. They vary and one even has 15 at betrothal and 19 at consummation. Not saying anything is definitive but I would put her age into question, now you are going to say that the main part of the Quran says otherwise but the Quran could be wrong. It is an amalgamation of all the history surrounding one guy so I question the legitimacy of anything said. Keep an open mind, maybe you're wrong or maybe you're right. With something as uncertain as religious history trust me I have been in every kind of religion from Hinduism to Zoroastrianism and rarely is it cut and dry when faith gets involved it might do you good to hate the thing you are studying less as it biases you to stop searching once you find something that justifies what you want rather than what might actually be true. Or not, I don't care really I just saw a bunch of historical links and I like history so I thought I'd look at them.
#216 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Just wanted to clear one point, he mentioned the two hadith and it is true that they are in the books. However, any hadith have to be validated by scholars with the use of the Quran and the historical events surrounding the time of the hadith.

And those two hadiths are dismissed as they don't correlate with either.

About the statement that he claimes is in the Quran, I've never read it before, and I read the Quran more than once. If he truely performed his research about Islam then I would like for him to tell me the name of the Sora and the Number of the Aya where it's mentioned an I would be more than happy to read it.
User avatar #98 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Yes muslim scholars like christain scholars bicker about small things in a religion, just like the controversy over the number 666.
That does not change the 500+ other things that are disgusting littered throughout the sacred texts, if i need to point them out to you then you truly are blind.
User avatar #101 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
I know it is a tired argument but you could do that with many religions.

I stopped caring after I read that you need to burn the chair a women sits on if she is on her period in the bible. Shit it wack everywhere and yeah some dicks in some sand dune are using it justify killing people but the guy you see on the subway or in starbucks who is muslim probably doesn't think like that. First world muslims are fine I mean there is the problem of sexism but that is in almost every religious text and third world ones are crazy. Don't let that make you automatically hate people you never have even talked to, that just lazy. Sure the religious text says some crazy shit but that doesn't mean every person in the religion will interpret it that way, depending on the person they could be totally fine. It's a gamble whether or not the person you run into is an asshole no matter who they are but that doesn't mean you should automatically assume they are.
User avatar #104 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
The big problem is there are too many stupid people in the world that do still read that shit man.
User avatar #109 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah man, we need more education in third world countries. Shit is never gonna get better there if no one goes to school. It is sad to see uneducated people get angry then grab what ever is closest to justify their stupidity when there are great modern resources to use where you could learn all sorts of amazing things. At least certain African countries are getting better economies so that is promising. Imagine if we could turn Africa into a center of industrial growth, that would be great. But I'm getting off track here so yeah, dumb people suck.
User avatar #117 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
btw most the muslims i know are african, i know they are much more extreme than muslims from other countries.
User avatar #128 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah it is really hit or miss when it comes to immigrants, I mean I read a biography called A Long Way Gone where a guy from Africa explains how his whole family was killed by warlords, he was drafted into the warlords warband, was forced to be addicted to cocaine, was forced to kill, and saw many of friends die it has a happy ending of him escaping, kicking his addiction, and moving to America to get an education so that was nice but boy was the ride there depressing . Shit is really and truly fucked when it comes to parts of Africa and I half don't want to blame because of where they come from and half want to just sit them down and go "what the fuck is wrong with you?". Honestly I don't know what to say and I can't justify their actions only understand why they do them. They are so used to it that even when they get to a better place they don't know what to do. It is both sad and aggravating at the same time.
User avatar #133 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Well that is the exact reason we have detention centres over here for immigrants, basically guantanamo bays where they are terrorists until proven not to be terrorists for the ones that come illegally by boats
Oi.. you are a muslim... i can ask you...

If you were locked up on an island called Christmas Island for a year would you be extremely mad about the situation?
i swear they put the detention centre on christmas island for that reason lol.
User avatar #137 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Nah I'm not a Muslim, I'm just weird in that I actually enjoy learning about history, philosophy, psychology and other shit. Man it really sucks because you know why they do all these things and act crazy because they were born in crazy and lived their whole life in crazy and when you suddenly plonk them down in urban sprawl where everything works smooth and orderly they don't know how to cope but it is also frustrating that they don't know what do with themselves.

I tell you, life is an enigma.
User avatar #115 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
My biggest problem is when people come from a 3rd world country over to my 1st world country where those resources are available and call me racist for not accepting their religion.
Most Australians are Atheists so we tend to cop a lot of shit from foreigners when we say we do not like what they are teaching even if it is something our society views as wrong.
heck the whole female oppression thing, cunts get their heads kicked in for that all the time over here then they run to the police crying racism when they were simply flogged for being a woman bashing cunt.
#75 - You're absolutely right, I hope that this will settle down soon. 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... +1
#73 - You should know that this was proven wrong many years ago. I h…  [+] (17 new replies) 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
#100 - ratpounder (02/09/2015) [-]
The word "Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one's beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.
www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm
User avatar #74 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
What the Quran was proven wrong?
Are you telling me the Quran lies about Mohammed and muslims are not killing people over it?
outrageous!
#76 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Aisha's (AS) age was never mentioned in the Quran. I was talking about the Hadith.
#78 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
So you believe shahih al-Bukhari is all horse piss then?

"According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was consummated. For example, Sahih al-Bukhari, considered by many Sunni Muslims as the most authentic book after Quran, states: Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
—Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Marriage_to_Muhammad
#80 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
I can feel your lack of respect towards me and Islam.
This will be my final response to you.

www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
User avatar #83 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah i have stated that i do have an immense lack of respect towards Islam in previous comments.

Does not mean what i am saying is not true, my lack of respect comes from thoroughly researching the religion as a whole from an outsiders perspective.
All i did was give you reliable information from one of Islams holy books after all.
User avatar #96 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Well if you actually read his link you would see that it gives quite a few sources of Muslim historians alive around the time of Muhammad giving vastly different times to how old Aisha actually was. They vary and one even has 15 at betrothal and 19 at consummation. Not saying anything is definitive but I would put her age into question, now you are going to say that the main part of the Quran says otherwise but the Quran could be wrong. It is an amalgamation of all the history surrounding one guy so I question the legitimacy of anything said. Keep an open mind, maybe you're wrong or maybe you're right. With something as uncertain as religious history trust me I have been in every kind of religion from Hinduism to Zoroastrianism and rarely is it cut and dry when faith gets involved it might do you good to hate the thing you are studying less as it biases you to stop searching once you find something that justifies what you want rather than what might actually be true. Or not, I don't care really I just saw a bunch of historical links and I like history so I thought I'd look at them.
#216 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Just wanted to clear one point, he mentioned the two hadith and it is true that they are in the books. However, any hadith have to be validated by scholars with the use of the Quran and the historical events surrounding the time of the hadith.

And those two hadiths are dismissed as they don't correlate with either.

About the statement that he claimes is in the Quran, I've never read it before, and I read the Quran more than once. If he truely performed his research about Islam then I would like for him to tell me the name of the Sora and the Number of the Aya where it's mentioned an I would be more than happy to read it.
User avatar #98 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Yes muslim scholars like christain scholars bicker about small things in a religion, just like the controversy over the number 666.
That does not change the 500+ other things that are disgusting littered throughout the sacred texts, if i need to point them out to you then you truly are blind.
User avatar #101 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
I know it is a tired argument but you could do that with many religions.

I stopped caring after I read that you need to burn the chair a women sits on if she is on her period in the bible. Shit it wack everywhere and yeah some dicks in some sand dune are using it justify killing people but the guy you see on the subway or in starbucks who is muslim probably doesn't think like that. First world muslims are fine I mean there is the problem of sexism but that is in almost every religious text and third world ones are crazy. Don't let that make you automatically hate people you never have even talked to, that just lazy. Sure the religious text says some crazy shit but that doesn't mean every person in the religion will interpret it that way, depending on the person they could be totally fine. It's a gamble whether or not the person you run into is an asshole no matter who they are but that doesn't mean you should automatically assume they are.
User avatar #104 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
The big problem is there are too many stupid people in the world that do still read that shit man.
User avatar #109 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah man, we need more education in third world countries. Shit is never gonna get better there if no one goes to school. It is sad to see uneducated people get angry then grab what ever is closest to justify their stupidity when there are great modern resources to use where you could learn all sorts of amazing things. At least certain African countries are getting better economies so that is promising. Imagine if we could turn Africa into a center of industrial growth, that would be great. But I'm getting off track here so yeah, dumb people suck.
User avatar #117 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
btw most the muslims i know are african, i know they are much more extreme than muslims from other countries.
User avatar #128 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Yeah it is really hit or miss when it comes to immigrants, I mean I read a biography called A Long Way Gone where a guy from Africa explains how his whole family was killed by warlords, he was drafted into the warlords warband, was forced to be addicted to cocaine, was forced to kill, and saw many of friends die it has a happy ending of him escaping, kicking his addiction, and moving to America to get an education so that was nice but boy was the ride there depressing . Shit is really and truly fucked when it comes to parts of Africa and I half don't want to blame because of where they come from and half want to just sit them down and go "what the fuck is wrong with you?". Honestly I don't know what to say and I can't justify their actions only understand why they do them. They are so used to it that even when they get to a better place they don't know what to do. It is both sad and aggravating at the same time.
User avatar #133 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Well that is the exact reason we have detention centres over here for immigrants, basically guantanamo bays where they are terrorists until proven not to be terrorists for the ones that come illegally by boats
Oi.. you are a muslim... i can ask you...

If you were locked up on an island called Christmas Island for a year would you be extremely mad about the situation?
i swear they put the detention centre on christmas island for that reason lol.
User avatar #137 - cupotruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Nah I'm not a Muslim, I'm just weird in that I actually enjoy learning about history, philosophy, psychology and other shit. Man it really sucks because you know why they do all these things and act crazy because they were born in crazy and lived their whole life in crazy and when you suddenly plonk them down in urban sprawl where everything works smooth and orderly they don't know how to cope but it is also frustrating that they don't know what do with themselves.

I tell you, life is an enigma.
User avatar #115 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
My biggest problem is when people come from a 3rd world country over to my 1st world country where those resources are available and call me racist for not accepting their religion.
Most Australians are Atheists so we tend to cop a lot of shit from foreigners when we say we do not like what they are teaching even if it is something our society views as wrong.
heck the whole female oppression thing, cunts get their heads kicked in for that all the time over here then they run to the police crying racism when they were simply flogged for being a woman bashing cunt.
#70 - Thank you for clearing that up for me. I will make sure to tak…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
#72 - doctorweird (02/09/2015) [-]
Np dude, even though i'm not muslim myself anymore i felt obligated to clear it up. With all the shit going on in the world right now, i would rather not have good muslims, whether they're shia or sunni or any other kind for that matter, fight amongst themselves when they could be fighting/ taking a stand agains "muslims" who are fucking shit up.

#75 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
You're absolutely right, I hope that this will settle down soon.
#67 - If you do not follow the first Pillar of Islam then you are no…  [+] (4 new replies) 02/09/2015 on Incest - Islam's Rules... 0
#69 - doctorweird (02/09/2015) [-]
Shia muslims DO believe that the Prophet Mohammed was the last messenger and prophet of god. The Quran is the same for Shi'it muslims and sunna muslims, the differences is purely in what hadiths they believe in and the question of the caliphate AKA political.
#70 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
Thank you for clearing that up for me. I will make sure to take note of that for future references.

Like I said, I'm not a scholar, I just felt the obligation say something when I saw that post.

I apologize.
#72 - doctorweird (02/09/2015) [-]
Np dude, even though i'm not muslim myself anymore i felt obligated to clear it up. With all the shit going on in the world right now, i would rather not have good muslims, whether they're shia or sunni or any other kind for that matter, fight amongst themselves when they could be fighting/ taking a stand agains "muslims" who are fucking shit up.

#75 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
You're absolutely right, I hope that this will settle down soon.
#2 - I am speaking the truth and nothing but the truth. As…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/09/2015 on thytruth's profile 0
User avatar #3 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
JE SUIS CHARLIE! Thunderf00t explains things much better than i do, i recommend you watch this video.
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User avatar #1 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
Seriously if you are going to spit **** about islam at least spit the truth.
#2 to #1 - thytruth (02/09/2015) [-]
I am speaking the truth and nothing but the truth.

As for what you posted, that has been proven wrong long ago, I have the sources but it's in Arabic. I will post back when I have them in English.
User avatar #3 to #2 - TwiztidNinja (02/09/2015) [-]
JE SUIS CHARLIE! Thunderf00t explains things much better than i do, i recommend you watch this video.
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