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| #128 - So everyone should know everything on the internet? Seriou… [+] (1 new reply) | 01/11/2016 on vikings! | -4 |
| I don't have to look things things up. I already know them. And in the real world you don't have a conversation with someone and blurt out "Oh yeah? What web page is it on?!" The internet has only been around a short time. What do you think people did before there were websites? Besides, why do you believe something, just because it is online? FJ is online. Does that make this site the source of all knowledge? | ||
| #127 - Since I didn't know cannabis was the name of the plant family … | 01/11/2016 on vikings! | -1 |
| #94 - Then don't expect me, or anyone else with a brain, to take you… | 01/10/2016 on vikings! | -1 |
| #90 - "if you want sources, find them yourself" T… [+] (5 new replies) | 01/10/2016 on vikings! | -4 |
| If you are the idiot who doesn't know shit, you fuck off. Why should we make accommodation to retards. Read a book. So everyone should know everything on the internet? Seriously, you don't see what a stupid idea that is? If everyone already knew these things, why would he put it in a fact comp? the idea that people should look up facts themselves is cancerous, if you think that's how things should work then good thing you waste your life on the internet, because that shit won't fly in the real world. I don't have to look things things up. I already know them. And in the real world you don't have a conversation with someone and blurt out "Oh yeah? What web page is it on?!" The internet has only been around a short time. What do you think people did before there were websites? Besides, why do you believe something, just because it is online? FJ is online. Does that make this site the source of all knowledge? #94 -
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| #77 - Then proving it shouldn't be a problem [+] (2 new replies) | 01/10/2016 on vikings! | -2 |
| That's not how it works you gigantic moron "I cured cancer with saline!" "Prove it" "No I don't have to, just look it up yourself!" If you make a statement, you fucking prove it yourself. It's not my fucking job to look up things that people say on the internet, it's their fucking job if they want what they say to have any credibility. All I ask for is proof of what a RANDOM person said on the INTERNET. If you expect me to blindly believe total strangers, you're an idiot. | ||
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Yo. I'm the one in the discussion regarding morals. In the last thing I posted, I gave the example "I would not steal from a blind man", and then asked myself "Why wouldn't I?".
I reckon you can give me a few reasons to refrain from doing it.
I reckon you can give me a few reasons to refrain from doing it.
First off, your comment color sucks balls
I don't mind you playing the devils advocate, it's a role i appreciate.
I realize the "I'm not a douchebag" isn't a full argument, but it's an abbreviation of "I ******* hate it when people do that to/near me, and I prefer being a person i would not want to punch when around"
As to why not steal from a blind man, stealing is inherently a destructive activity, which we have to refrain from on a societal level, and shun the ones who engage in it.
Which is how I would also define morals. A set of guidelines, defined by the individual, meant to prevent activities perceived to have a negative impact on society, even if they are not illegal.
Whether or not you're a moral individual depends on whether or not you follow your own morals.
I don't mind you playing the devils advocate, it's a role i appreciate.
I realize the "I'm not a douchebag" isn't a full argument, but it's an abbreviation of "I ******* hate it when people do that to/near me, and I prefer being a person i would not want to punch when around"
As to why not steal from a blind man, stealing is inherently a destructive activity, which we have to refrain from on a societal level, and shun the ones who engage in it.
Which is how I would also define morals. A set of guidelines, defined by the individual, meant to prevent activities perceived to have a negative impact on society, even if they are not illegal.
Whether or not you're a moral individual depends on whether or not you follow your own morals.
I'll take that first point as a compliment.
So, the "I'm not a douchebag" thing is about you treating others like you hope to be treated in return?
And how exactly is stealing "destructive"? Also, what is this "societal level"?
The remainder of the argument lies on these two terms, which is pretty clear otherwise... even though earlier on you did mention that "I won't be a madman and say that moral has to be the core of society...", but now you are saying that certain moral standards are indeed what hold a society together, as without them the society would crumble.
I think I'm still able to define morals with egoism as their core though: "Morals are certain standards of behavior which allow people to coexist according to the whole treat others like you want to be treated principle, and basically go along the lines of "I'll benefit you if you benefit me" - a sort of mutual agreement between the individuals of said society.
According to this, what is the reason I wouldn't steal from a blind man? Because morals are on the same level as your instincts compared to rational thought, so you don't do it as a natural fear of being an outcast and lose your bonds with said society. Thus the only reason I wouldn't steal from a blind man is the risk that I could get caught.
Also if I end up preaching pro my own view, just nudge me into the right direction so I actually get to face your arguments.
So, the "I'm not a douchebag" thing is about you treating others like you hope to be treated in return?
And how exactly is stealing "destructive"? Also, what is this "societal level"?
The remainder of the argument lies on these two terms, which is pretty clear otherwise... even though earlier on you did mention that "I won't be a madman and say that moral has to be the core of society...", but now you are saying that certain moral standards are indeed what hold a society together, as without them the society would crumble.
I think I'm still able to define morals with egoism as their core though: "Morals are certain standards of behavior which allow people to coexist according to the whole treat others like you want to be treated principle, and basically go along the lines of "I'll benefit you if you benefit me" - a sort of mutual agreement between the individuals of said society.
According to this, what is the reason I wouldn't steal from a blind man? Because morals are on the same level as your instincts compared to rational thought, so you don't do it as a natural fear of being an outcast and lose your bonds with said society. Thus the only reason I wouldn't steal from a blind man is the risk that I could get caught.
Also if I end up preaching pro my own view, just nudge me into the right direction so I actually get to face your arguments.
In a nutshell, yea. Douchebags treat others like dirt, and I hate those people. No way in hell am I becoming that which I hate.
Stealing is destructive because it's disruptive. if everyone stole, there would be no reason to create. There has to be a clear reward to be a productive member, and stealing contradicts that.
Morals are absolutely needed, but morals are personal. You can't force your own morals onto others. Sure, I don't download movies and games if I can get around it, but I don't force others to follow that, and I don't shun people for doing it. I hardly even talk about it, I just do it. Same with weed, I'v been ordered several times, and I have turned it down by principle. But I didn't leave, because I don't force my morals onto others.
That's a good thing for society, pure and simple, as long as my morals aren't misguided. But forcing others to follow your morals is wrong. Especially when your morals are based on ignorance, which is most often the case when people force their own morals onto others.
I wouldn't say morals is on the level of instincts and what you call rational thought. I'd say that what you call rational thought is based on rational individual thought, while morals is based on rational group behavior.
Stealing is destructive because it's disruptive. if everyone stole, there would be no reason to create. There has to be a clear reward to be a productive member, and stealing contradicts that.
Morals are absolutely needed, but morals are personal. You can't force your own morals onto others. Sure, I don't download movies and games if I can get around it, but I don't force others to follow that, and I don't shun people for doing it. I hardly even talk about it, I just do it. Same with weed, I'v been ordered several times, and I have turned it down by principle. But I didn't leave, because I don't force my morals onto others.
That's a good thing for society, pure and simple, as long as my morals aren't misguided. But forcing others to follow your morals is wrong. Especially when your morals are based on ignorance, which is most often the case when people force their own morals onto others.
I wouldn't say morals is on the level of instincts and what you call rational thought. I'd say that what you call rational thought is based on rational individual thought, while morals is based on rational group behavior.
