I'm not putting words into your mouth, that's how dumb your criticism looks if you read into it. It's a truism. There's no point in mentioning that they could be X instead of Y because people are not clairvoyant. This makes others assume you have some personal reason for thinking that this is likely enough to warrant mentioning.

If we don't take shit at face value and assume the worst of everything, why care at all?

Why would they allow men to be part of the group and consider fighting male oppression to be part of their agenda if they blindly assumed all men to be evil?

Okay now you're doing that annoying ass thing people do. You're putting words into my mouth and responding to things that are not my criticism. I never said they were anti-male, I never said they think all men are evil, I simply stated that they could very easily BECOME an anti-male vigilante group if they don't include fact checking in their analysis of 'who do we attack today?'

I'm not putting words into your mouth, that's how dumb your criticism looks if you read into it. It's a truism. There's no point in mentioning that they could be X instead of Y because people are not clairvoyant. This makes others assume you have some personal reason for thinking that this is likely enough to warrant mentioning.

If we don't take shit at face value and assume the worst of everything, why care at all?

What makes you think they have no incentive? Women's rights are a very serious issue in India, so everyone in the group benefits in their lives from solidarity and trust between members, including the male ones.

They have incentive to start the service. What I said what that they have no incentive to DISCRIMINATE against the men who can be proved to be abusers. As in, they gotta make sure they're not just beating the shit out of some innocent dude.

Why would they allow men to be part of the group and consider fighting male oppression to be part of their agenda if they blindly assumed all men to be evil?

Okay now you're doing that annoying ass thing people do. You're putting words into my mouth and responding to things that are not my criticism. I never said they were anti-male, I never said they think all men are evil, I simply stated that they could very easily BECOME an anti-male vigilante group if they don't include fact checking in their analysis of 'who do we attack today?'

I'm not putting words into your mouth, that's how dumb your criticism looks if you read into it. It's a truism. There's no point in mentioning that they could be X instead of Y because people are not clairvoyant. This makes others assume you have some personal reason for thinking that this is likely enough to warrant mentioning.

If we don't take shit at face value and assume the worst of everything, why care at all?

It's just a little weird that you're bringing this up like it's some kind of elephant in the room. It's not implied that they go around kicking anyone's ass on a whim solely because of word of mouth.

Because that's what this could very easily turn into. They have no incentive, financial or otherwise, to discriminate or check whether the claims are true or not.

What makes you think they have no incentive? Women's rights are a very serious issue in India, so everyone in the group benefits in their lives from solidarity and trust between members, including the male ones.

They have incentive to start the service. What I said what that they have no incentive to DISCRIMINATE against the men who can be proved to be abusers. As in, they gotta make sure they're not just beating the shit out of some innocent dude.

Why would they allow men to be part of the group and consider fighting male oppression to be part of their agenda if they blindly assumed all men to be evil?

Okay now you're doing that annoying ass thing people do. You're putting words into my mouth and responding to things that are not my criticism. I never said they were anti-male, I never said they think all men are evil, I simply stated that they could very easily BECOME an anti-male vigilante group if they don't include fact checking in their analysis of 'who do we attack today?'

I'm not putting words into your mouth, that's how dumb your criticism looks if you read into it. It's a truism. There's no point in mentioning that they could be X instead of Y because people are not clairvoyant. This makes others assume you have some personal reason for thinking that this is likely enough to warrant mentioning.

If we don't take shit at face value and assume the worst of everything, why care at all?

Read the Book Half the Sky or at least look up what rape is like in India, what they are doing is completely warranted imo as women who have sex (even rape) outside marriage are imprisoned and the man walks away. These women are NOTHING like 'feminists' in the Western World and do not treat them like it.

They're part of an organized syndicate, not a lynch mob. Their goal is to be more ethical and objective than the government, not less, and they have long since expanded to tackling male oppression and gender-neutral crimes like child molestation.

You're doing what radical feminists do that make people hate them, assuming Western nations = the world.

Oh yes, my suggestion that they might ignore the burden of proof is totally me assuming that the US is the only landmass in the world. Nah. Objective standards are universal. They're just as applicable in India as they are anywhere else.

If they're truly being better than government, then great. I hope they're successful. But that doesn't change the fact that they're walking a dangerous edge. In the US, any woman can take down any man with claims of rape. I just don't want to see that happen in other countries as well, if it's not already happening.

It's just a little weird that you're bringing this up like it's some kind of elephant in the room. It's not implied that they go around kicking anyone's ass on a whim solely because of word of mouth.

Because that's what this could very easily turn into. They have no incentive, financial or otherwise, to discriminate or check whether the claims are true or not.

What makes you think they have no incentive? Women's rights are a very serious issue in India, so everyone in the group benefits in their lives from solidarity and trust between members, including the male ones.

They have incentive to start the service. What I said what that they have no incentive to DISCRIMINATE against the men who can be proved to be abusers. As in, they gotta make sure they're not just beating the shit out of some innocent dude.

Why would they allow men to be part of the group and consider fighting male oppression to be part of their agenda if they blindly assumed all men to be evil?

Okay now you're doing that annoying ass thing people do. You're putting words into my mouth and responding to things that are not my criticism. I never said they were anti-male, I never said they think all men are evil, I simply stated that they could very easily BECOME an anti-male vigilante group if they don't include fact checking in their analysis of 'who do we attack today?'

I'm not putting words into your mouth, that's how dumb your criticism looks if you read into it. It's a truism. There's no point in mentioning that they could be X instead of Y because people are not clairvoyant. This makes others assume you have some personal reason for thinking that this is likely enough to warrant mentioning.

If we don't take shit at face value and assume the worst of everything, why care at all?

Well, here, that'd be a good idea. There are significant amounts of people hateful of and willing to abuse men. In India, you could place the whole of tumblr there and all of a sudden the population of people willing to abuse men is laughably insignificant to the population of people willing to abuse women, and the abuse is much less severe.

And where do you think these people are living? Nice houses with big yards? You either live in a tiny space with thin walls among a bunch of other people, and your whole street knows your husband beats you, or you live in a tiny house in a tiny village and the whole village knows your husband beats you. It's not like there's that much repercussion to beating your wife, they don't try and hide it - again, as if they could in the TINY tinyness.

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Ya, dank spirits 2 to be more precise

Sweet.

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