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#43 - As a choice for you, I'd suggest being a Navy Corpsman. Nothin…  [+] (5 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd 0
User avatar #44 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
That's what I've been thinking as well. I'm also going to strive to get into special forces of some kind, (obviously would differ on which one depending on what branch I go in) and I know that Navy has a much better way of handling anybody that becomes a washout.
User avatar #45 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
If you're shooting for special forces, you might actually think about doing one term as a navy corpsman (stay in great shape) then do a lat move and be an Air Force Paratrooper. They're some badass motherfuckers.
User avatar #46 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah? Huh, that does sound like a good plan. I know I don't want to just be a regular airman or anything, because I can't handle me leading to a bunch of people dying at the press of a button and them just being a number.

But yeah dude, paratroopers are severely underrated and badass. My grandpa was one before the Air Force was formed when he was in WW2. That'd be a pretty cool circle there.
User avatar #55 - fuelnfire (09/30/2013) [-]
Going into an infantry airborne division, or enlisting with an intent to go into SF, or the Rangers will be more similar to traditional paratroopers. Airforce parajumpers are hardcore, search and rescue, or attached primarily to SF and Army groups.

Joining the Army or Navy will be a great call man, both will do you well, and I owe my life, and many of my friends lives to Navy Hospital Corpsmen.

I'm fairly mellow for a jarhead, and don't take offense that easily since I've been a civvy for quite a while (moved to Canada), so I'm only a bit bugged that you dislike "typical" Marines. That said, do not dismiss the Navy, some of my brothers would disagree, but so called "Devil Docs" are seen as by most of my unit, as "might as well be marines" they go through similar training, and identical combat conditions.

User avatar #57 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, the typical part mostly just refers to a large amount of the wave of marines since movies started praising them so much. It used to be that all the branches were respected, but then there was the whole "Fuck yeah, Marines!" phase the media went through. I guess I shouldn't have said typical, but the ones I tend to run in

But yeah, no matter what though, if somebody joins any branch (even the Coast Guard, even though I laugh at them so much) I respect them for it. All of them are not exactly the most fun and easy jobs.

Hell, Coast Guard I wouldn't join because your number one enemy is Mother Nature herself.

But yeah, I'm excited, no matter what path I go down in the future. If I get to serve and help others then that's a success in my books.
#39 - "The sheer pride and ego the typical marine has made me a…  [+] (7 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd 0
User avatar #40 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Like I said, the pride is completely understandable, when people bash marines and say all marines are stupid and such I get pissed. I've just always found it stupid that so many think that they're on par with Green Berets and Navy SEALs.

But, I don't call them soldiers, I know that it's offensive to lots of marines, so I don't call them that. However, the meaning of a soldier is just anybody who serves any military organization. I'm not saying you shouldn't be called a marine, because you are different from the Army, but just that the only reason it's considered to be offensive is because marines chose to make it offensive to call them a soldier.

As for me not understanding because I've never served and such, my goal right now is to become a combat medic, can't decide between Army or Navy, and I'm getting enough college credits to enlist thanks to my homeschooling diploma. I'll definitely understand having pride in your branch in the future, though for now I can't understand through experience, I can understand from empathy.

Anyway, good job being always faithful man, and again, thank you for serving. Hopefully our next encounter doesn't involve me losing my cool a bit and being insulting.
User avatar #43 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
As a choice for you, I'd suggest being a Navy Corpsman. Nothing earns you more respect than going into combat with Soldiers and Marines. Admittedly you can do similar work with the army, but its not usually in a warzone. Mostly fixing people that are in medhold.
User avatar #44 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
That's what I've been thinking as well. I'm also going to strive to get into special forces of some kind, (obviously would differ on which one depending on what branch I go in) and I know that Navy has a much better way of handling anybody that becomes a washout.
User avatar #45 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
If you're shooting for special forces, you might actually think about doing one term as a navy corpsman (stay in great shape) then do a lat move and be an Air Force Paratrooper. They're some badass motherfuckers.
User avatar #46 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah? Huh, that does sound like a good plan. I know I don't want to just be a regular airman or anything, because I can't handle me leading to a bunch of people dying at the press of a button and them just being a number.

But yeah dude, paratroopers are severely underrated and badass. My grandpa was one before the Air Force was formed when he was in WW2. That'd be a pretty cool circle there.
User avatar #55 - fuelnfire (09/30/2013) [-]
Going into an infantry airborne division, or enlisting with an intent to go into SF, or the Rangers will be more similar to traditional paratroopers. Airforce parajumpers are hardcore, search and rescue, or attached primarily to SF and Army groups.

Joining the Army or Navy will be a great call man, both will do you well, and I owe my life, and many of my friends lives to Navy Hospital Corpsmen.

I'm fairly mellow for a jarhead, and don't take offense that easily since I've been a civvy for quite a while (moved to Canada), so I'm only a bit bugged that you dislike "typical" Marines. That said, do not dismiss the Navy, some of my brothers would disagree, but so called "Devil Docs" are seen as by most of my unit, as "might as well be marines" they go through similar training, and identical combat conditions.

User avatar #57 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, the typical part mostly just refers to a large amount of the wave of marines since movies started praising them so much. It used to be that all the branches were respected, but then there was the whole "Fuck yeah, Marines!" phase the media went through. I guess I shouldn't have said typical, but the ones I tend to run in

But yeah, no matter what though, if somebody joins any branch (even the Coast Guard, even though I laugh at them so much) I respect them for it. All of them are not exactly the most fun and easy jobs.

Hell, Coast Guard I wouldn't join because your number one enemy is Mother Nature herself.

But yeah, I'm excited, no matter what path I go down in the future. If I get to serve and help others then that's a success in my books.
#35 - Basically we all just read that you didn't have the balls to g…  [+] (11 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd 0
User avatar #60 - vicsix (09/30/2013) [-]
okay soldier.
#86 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
User avatar #37 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Boy, I sure didn't see this kind of comment coming.

Marines aren't special forces kid. They're better fighters than the Army, and that's the job you guys are trained for. Read my comment again. My problem isn't with the Marine Corps, it's with morons like you who take me saying "Shut up and stop acting like you're better than everybody else because you don't train anything 'optional' like medics and such," as a threat on your precious Corps.

You are allowed to have pride in the Corps, but to bash on every other branch while you say you're awesome just makes you petty. My friends are marines, my uncle is a marine and served in Nam, I have nothing against marines, but against douchebags who happen to be marines (and there is a larger density of douche-to-branch-members in the Corps than there are in the other branches.)

Again, you do your job and you do it well, and you are the best branch at your job. But that doesn't make you the best branch, just the best at your job. Just like the flyboys are the best at their job of transporting goods, providing intel, and training pilots. Other branches can do those things too, but the AF is the best at it.

Now, are you done with your little hissy fit over me telling you to stop being a child?
#39 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
"The sheer pride and ego the typical marine has made me adamant on the fact that I will not join them." -you

This is what I was referring You clearly don't understand why we have so much pride in the title of United States Marine. I don't expect you to fully understand because its damn near impossible unless you actually go through boot camp yourself, then get reminded why through actual combat.

You don't need to understand why we are so prideful. But you do need to accept that its a thing that will never change. Theres nothing that you or anyone else can do to change that we have pride in the Corps.

On a final note, we don't mind when your every day civilian gets it screwwy and calls us soldiers. Its whatever. But its ignoramus's like you who know there's a huge difference but don't accept that Marines are prideful (and albeit arrogant). Its something we earn though.
User avatar #40 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Like I said, the pride is completely understandable, when people bash marines and say all marines are stupid and such I get pissed. I've just always found it stupid that so many think that they're on par with Green Berets and Navy SEALs.

But, I don't call them soldiers, I know that it's offensive to lots of marines, so I don't call them that. However, the meaning of a soldier is just anybody who serves any military organization. I'm not saying you shouldn't be called a marine, because you are different from the Army, but just that the only reason it's considered to be offensive is because marines chose to make it offensive to call them a soldier.

As for me not understanding because I've never served and such, my goal right now is to become a combat medic, can't decide between Army or Navy, and I'm getting enough college credits to enlist thanks to my homeschooling diploma. I'll definitely understand having pride in your branch in the future, though for now I can't understand through experience, I can understand from empathy.

Anyway, good job being always faithful man, and again, thank you for serving. Hopefully our next encounter doesn't involve me losing my cool a bit and being insulting.
User avatar #43 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
As a choice for you, I'd suggest being a Navy Corpsman. Nothing earns you more respect than going into combat with Soldiers and Marines. Admittedly you can do similar work with the army, but its not usually in a warzone. Mostly fixing people that are in medhold.
User avatar #44 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
That's what I've been thinking as well. I'm also going to strive to get into special forces of some kind, (obviously would differ on which one depending on what branch I go in) and I know that Navy has a much better way of handling anybody that becomes a washout.
User avatar #45 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
If you're shooting for special forces, you might actually think about doing one term as a navy corpsman (stay in great shape) then do a lat move and be an Air Force Paratrooper. They're some badass motherfuckers.
User avatar #46 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah? Huh, that does sound like a good plan. I know I don't want to just be a regular airman or anything, because I can't handle me leading to a bunch of people dying at the press of a button and them just being a number.

But yeah dude, paratroopers are severely underrated and badass. My grandpa was one before the Air Force was formed when he was in WW2. That'd be a pretty cool circle there.
User avatar #55 - fuelnfire (09/30/2013) [-]
Going into an infantry airborne division, or enlisting with an intent to go into SF, or the Rangers will be more similar to traditional paratroopers. Airforce parajumpers are hardcore, search and rescue, or attached primarily to SF and Army groups.

Joining the Army or Navy will be a great call man, both will do you well, and I owe my life, and many of my friends lives to Navy Hospital Corpsmen.

I'm fairly mellow for a jarhead, and don't take offense that easily since I've been a civvy for quite a while (moved to Canada), so I'm only a bit bugged that you dislike "typical" Marines. That said, do not dismiss the Navy, some of my brothers would disagree, but so called "Devil Docs" are seen as by most of my unit, as "might as well be marines" they go through similar training, and identical combat conditions.

User avatar #57 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, the typical part mostly just refers to a large amount of the wave of marines since movies started praising them so much. It used to be that all the branches were respected, but then there was the whole "Fuck yeah, Marines!" phase the media went through. I guess I shouldn't have said typical, but the ones I tend to run in

But yeah, no matter what though, if somebody joins any branch (even the Coast Guard, even though I laugh at them so much) I respect them for it. All of them are not exactly the most fun and easy jobs.

Hell, Coast Guard I wouldn't join because your number one enemy is Mother Nature herself.

But yeah, I'm excited, no matter what path I go down in the future. If I get to serve and help others then that's a success in my books.
#18 - Yut  [+] (3 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd +1
User avatar #19 - toadkillerdog (09/30/2013) [-]
I just realized it's like calling firefighters cops, one works their asses off and has to be in really good shape, the other sits around in cars all day getting fat off doughnuts.
#80 - jakols (09/30/2013) [-]
no...
All marines are soldiers and all Navy Seals are soldiers, but not all soldiers are marines or seals.

like all firefighters are public service employees, and all Cops are public service employees. but not all public service employees are cops or firefighters.

Soldier is defined as "An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization". ergo, If you carry a gun for a cause, or you fight on behalf of others. you are a god damn soldier.

The fact that marines gets pissed when called soldiers is because they feel special and want to be treated that way. They are better than ordinary soldiers and they want people to recognize it. Nevertheless as long as they are employed to fight for their country, the are soldiers.
User avatar #87 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
But we're not. We're marines. Its a huge difference that you seem to not be able to wrap your head around.
#17 - Because its a different job. The army is much more all encompa…  [+] (1 new reply) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd 0
User avatar #25 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Im not arguing anything. You were the one who jumped in an "correct" someone. I was asking if it really matter, and your answer seems to be that it doesn't. Either way, Good luck in all your endeavors and don't get killed on your next tour.
#11 - Literally copied and pasted from their site: Soldier: One …  [+] (3 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd +4
User avatar #14 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Why does it matter? We train you, give you the gun and the gear and you go kill shit. Regardless of what word you want to be called you do your duty.

I have marine friends and they don't mind getting called soldiers. Most people call anyone who is employed by the government in a military role a soldier.

So I don't see why it matters.
#17 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Because its a different job. The army is much more all encompassing in their actual uses. They have corpsmen, battlefield medics, and a great number more tankers and pilots, as well as more versatile equipment. On the other hand, marines are trained harder for worse conditions, are trained to do more with less, to shoot more accurately, to do everything more effectively, and to kill more efficiently. We're a force in reaction. We see a war, we go fuck things up, and we leave.

Those are the biggest differences, but perhaps the biggest reason we call them soldiers and ourselves marines is this: Pride in your branch. Its the little rivalries that we can all acknowledge and crack jokes on and have competitions over, but still be able to look past to get the job done. I've trained and worked at four different multi-branch bases and some of the best NCO's I've met have been Soldiers and Airmen.

But the difference is there, and its something to accept, not to be argued about because it won't change anything.

tl;dr
You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Marines kick ass. Oorah, yut, kill, do one for Chesty.
User avatar #25 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Im not arguing anything. You were the one who jumped in an "correct" someone. I was asking if it really matter, and your answer seems to be that it doesn't. Either way, Good luck in all your endeavors and don't get killed on your next tour.
#5 - They're not. They're marines. Trust me on this one, myself an…  [+] (12 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd +2
User avatar #23 - ronyx (09/30/2013) [-]
The whole fighting between branches is very childish to be honest. Just like how intelligence agencies refuse to share information and we get shit like 9/11.
User avatar #15 - toadkillerdog (09/30/2013) [-]
as a marine, I can vouch for this. Soldier implies army, which is considered a huge insult for marines. We usually don't say anything to civilians just because we get tired of explaining it, but calling your squadmates soldiers is comparable to calling em seamen.
User avatar #68 - Kanoah (09/30/2013) [-]
Soldier doesn't imply army, soldier implies a member of a military force, which, in case you didn't notice, is exactly what a marine is. Yes, you're better at fighting than the Army, but that doesn't make you something completely different, because you still fight. What you Marines say is comparable to saying "George Washington was better at being President than any other President so far, so not only is he not a President, hes superior in every way to every elected official since then. And something completely different from a President."
#18 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Yut
User avatar #19 - toadkillerdog (09/30/2013) [-]
I just realized it's like calling firefighters cops, one works their asses off and has to be in really good shape, the other sits around in cars all day getting fat off doughnuts.
#80 - jakols (09/30/2013) [-]
no...
All marines are soldiers and all Navy Seals are soldiers, but not all soldiers are marines or seals.

like all firefighters are public service employees, and all Cops are public service employees. but not all public service employees are cops or firefighters.

Soldier is defined as "An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization". ergo, If you carry a gun for a cause, or you fight on behalf of others. you are a god damn soldier.

The fact that marines gets pissed when called soldiers is because they feel special and want to be treated that way. They are better than ordinary soldiers and they want people to recognize it. Nevertheless as long as they are employed to fight for their country, the are soldiers.
User avatar #87 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
But we're not. We're marines. Its a huge difference that you seem to not be able to wrap your head around.
User avatar #7 - alalalalal (09/30/2013) [-]
#11 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Literally copied and pasted from their site:
Soldier: One who serves in an army. (which I do not; I serve in my marine corps)
Marine: Of or relating to troops that serve at sea as well as on land, specifically the U.S. Marine Corps.

Learn the difference. We are not one in the same. Its a specific disambiguation from who is in which service. I know that the word ''soldier' stretches far beyond the uses of the US military service, but thats the only one I care about as a US serviceman.
Even soldiers agree on this point.
User avatar #14 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Why does it matter? We train you, give you the gun and the gear and you go kill shit. Regardless of what word you want to be called you do your duty.

I have marine friends and they don't mind getting called soldiers. Most people call anyone who is employed by the government in a military role a soldier.

So I don't see why it matters.
#17 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Because its a different job. The army is much more all encompassing in their actual uses. They have corpsmen, battlefield medics, and a great number more tankers and pilots, as well as more versatile equipment. On the other hand, marines are trained harder for worse conditions, are trained to do more with less, to shoot more accurately, to do everything more effectively, and to kill more efficiently. We're a force in reaction. We see a war, we go fuck things up, and we leave.

Those are the biggest differences, but perhaps the biggest reason we call them soldiers and ourselves marines is this: Pride in your branch. Its the little rivalries that we can all acknowledge and crack jokes on and have competitions over, but still be able to look past to get the job done. I've trained and worked at four different multi-branch bases and some of the best NCO's I've met have been Soldiers and Airmen.

But the difference is there, and its something to accept, not to be argued about because it won't change anything.

tl;dr
You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Marines kick ass. Oorah, yut, kill, do one for Chesty.
User avatar #25 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Im not arguing anything. You were the one who jumped in an "correct" someone. I was asking if it really matter, and your answer seems to be that it doesn't. Either way, Good luck in all your endeavors and don't get killed on your next tour.
#3 - This actually happens a lot in the military. Give the little g…  [+] (29 new replies) 09/30/2013 on Badass nurd +14
#50 - fuelnfire (09/30/2013) [-]
Actually its kinda frustrating, a lot of units give the heavy guns (240s and shit) to little guys, and new guys, to kinda haze em and shit. This means that guys who can't maneuver with them, or are inexperienced, wind up with the heavy weapons platforms in combat haha.
User avatar #4 - Kanoah (09/30/2013) [-]
Oh, no no no no no, there's been a debate about this before, and I'll reaffirm it again. Marines are soldiers. But other than that, I agree.
User avatar #30 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Oh boy, here come all the marines with their dicks in a knot over you calling them a term that refers to anybody who is a member of any fighting force. Oh, how dare we compare them to the branch that is the most similar to them.

I love marines, don't get me wrong, (because I know some of you are already fuming) but you guys really need to get your attitudes in check. The sheer pride and ego the typical marine has made me adamant on the fact that I will not join them. I'm grateful for them doing the job they're trained to do, but they aren't the best. They are simply the best trained for what they do is all. Same thing with all of the branches.
User avatar #35 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Basically we all just read that you didn't have the balls to go stand on the yellow footprints. If you were a marine, you'd understand why we pride ourselves in the title. We earned it and we wear it as a badge of honor.
User avatar #60 - vicsix (09/30/2013) [-]
okay soldier.
#86 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
User avatar #37 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Boy, I sure didn't see this kind of comment coming.

Marines aren't special forces kid. They're better fighters than the Army, and that's the job you guys are trained for. Read my comment again. My problem isn't with the Marine Corps, it's with morons like you who take me saying "Shut up and stop acting like you're better than everybody else because you don't train anything 'optional' like medics and such," as a threat on your precious Corps.

You are allowed to have pride in the Corps, but to bash on every other branch while you say you're awesome just makes you petty. My friends are marines, my uncle is a marine and served in Nam, I have nothing against marines, but against douchebags who happen to be marines (and there is a larger density of douche-to-branch-members in the Corps than there are in the other branches.)

Again, you do your job and you do it well, and you are the best branch at your job. But that doesn't make you the best branch, just the best at your job. Just like the flyboys are the best at their job of transporting goods, providing intel, and training pilots. Other branches can do those things too, but the AF is the best at it.

Now, are you done with your little hissy fit over me telling you to stop being a child?
#39 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
"The sheer pride and ego the typical marine has made me adamant on the fact that I will not join them." -you

This is what I was referring You clearly don't understand why we have so much pride in the title of United States Marine. I don't expect you to fully understand because its damn near impossible unless you actually go through boot camp yourself, then get reminded why through actual combat.

You don't need to understand why we are so prideful. But you do need to accept that its a thing that will never change. Theres nothing that you or anyone else can do to change that we have pride in the Corps.

On a final note, we don't mind when your every day civilian gets it screwwy and calls us soldiers. Its whatever. But its ignoramus's like you who know there's a huge difference but don't accept that Marines are prideful (and albeit arrogant). Its something we earn though.
User avatar #40 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Like I said, the pride is completely understandable, when people bash marines and say all marines are stupid and such I get pissed. I've just always found it stupid that so many think that they're on par with Green Berets and Navy SEALs.

But, I don't call them soldiers, I know that it's offensive to lots of marines, so I don't call them that. However, the meaning of a soldier is just anybody who serves any military organization. I'm not saying you shouldn't be called a marine, because you are different from the Army, but just that the only reason it's considered to be offensive is because marines chose to make it offensive to call them a soldier.

As for me not understanding because I've never served and such, my goal right now is to become a combat medic, can't decide between Army or Navy, and I'm getting enough college credits to enlist thanks to my homeschooling diploma. I'll definitely understand having pride in your branch in the future, though for now I can't understand through experience, I can understand from empathy.

Anyway, good job being always faithful man, and again, thank you for serving. Hopefully our next encounter doesn't involve me losing my cool a bit and being insulting.
User avatar #43 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
As a choice for you, I'd suggest being a Navy Corpsman. Nothing earns you more respect than going into combat with Soldiers and Marines. Admittedly you can do similar work with the army, but its not usually in a warzone. Mostly fixing people that are in medhold.
User avatar #44 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
That's what I've been thinking as well. I'm also going to strive to get into special forces of some kind, (obviously would differ on which one depending on what branch I go in) and I know that Navy has a much better way of handling anybody that becomes a washout.
User avatar #45 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
If you're shooting for special forces, you might actually think about doing one term as a navy corpsman (stay in great shape) then do a lat move and be an Air Force Paratrooper. They're some badass motherfuckers.
User avatar #46 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah? Huh, that does sound like a good plan. I know I don't want to just be a regular airman or anything, because I can't handle me leading to a bunch of people dying at the press of a button and them just being a number.

But yeah dude, paratroopers are severely underrated and badass. My grandpa was one before the Air Force was formed when he was in WW2. That'd be a pretty cool circle there.
User avatar #55 - fuelnfire (09/30/2013) [-]
Going into an infantry airborne division, or enlisting with an intent to go into SF, or the Rangers will be more similar to traditional paratroopers. Airforce parajumpers are hardcore, search and rescue, or attached primarily to SF and Army groups.

Joining the Army or Navy will be a great call man, both will do you well, and I owe my life, and many of my friends lives to Navy Hospital Corpsmen.

I'm fairly mellow for a jarhead, and don't take offense that easily since I've been a civvy for quite a while (moved to Canada), so I'm only a bit bugged that you dislike "typical" Marines. That said, do not dismiss the Navy, some of my brothers would disagree, but so called "Devil Docs" are seen as by most of my unit, as "might as well be marines" they go through similar training, and identical combat conditions.

User avatar #57 - commontroll (09/30/2013) [-]
Yeah, the typical part mostly just refers to a large amount of the wave of marines since movies started praising them so much. It used to be that all the branches were respected, but then there was the whole "Fuck yeah, Marines!" phase the media went through. I guess I shouldn't have said typical, but the ones I tend to run in

But yeah, no matter what though, if somebody joins any branch (even the Coast Guard, even though I laugh at them so much) I respect them for it. All of them are not exactly the most fun and easy jobs.

Hell, Coast Guard I wouldn't join because your number one enemy is Mother Nature herself.

But yeah, I'm excited, no matter what path I go down in the future. If I get to serve and help others then that's a success in my books.
#33 - anonymous (09/30/2013) [-]
well said.
User avatar #5 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
They're not. They're marines. Trust me on this one, myself and every other marine gets pissed if you think we're soldiers because we're not.
User avatar #23 - ronyx (09/30/2013) [-]
The whole fighting between branches is very childish to be honest. Just like how intelligence agencies refuse to share information and we get shit like 9/11.
User avatar #15 - toadkillerdog (09/30/2013) [-]
as a marine, I can vouch for this. Soldier implies army, which is considered a huge insult for marines. We usually don't say anything to civilians just because we get tired of explaining it, but calling your squadmates soldiers is comparable to calling em seamen.
User avatar #68 - Kanoah (09/30/2013) [-]
Soldier doesn't imply army, soldier implies a member of a military force, which, in case you didn't notice, is exactly what a marine is. Yes, you're better at fighting than the Army, but that doesn't make you something completely different, because you still fight. What you Marines say is comparable to saying "George Washington was better at being President than any other President so far, so not only is he not a President, hes superior in every way to every elected official since then. And something completely different from a President."
#18 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Yut
User avatar #19 - toadkillerdog (09/30/2013) [-]
I just realized it's like calling firefighters cops, one works their asses off and has to be in really good shape, the other sits around in cars all day getting fat off doughnuts.
#80 - jakols (09/30/2013) [-]
no...
All marines are soldiers and all Navy Seals are soldiers, but not all soldiers are marines or seals.

like all firefighters are public service employees, and all Cops are public service employees. but not all public service employees are cops or firefighters.

Soldier is defined as "An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization". ergo, If you carry a gun for a cause, or you fight on behalf of others. you are a god damn soldier.

The fact that marines gets pissed when called soldiers is because they feel special and want to be treated that way. They are better than ordinary soldiers and they want people to recognize it. Nevertheless as long as they are employed to fight for their country, the are soldiers.
User avatar #87 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
But we're not. We're marines. Its a huge difference that you seem to not be able to wrap your head around.
User avatar #7 - alalalalal (09/30/2013) [-]
#11 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Literally copied and pasted from their site:
Soldier: One who serves in an army. (which I do not; I serve in my marine corps)
Marine: Of or relating to troops that serve at sea as well as on land, specifically the U.S. Marine Corps.

Learn the difference. We are not one in the same. Its a specific disambiguation from who is in which service. I know that the word ''soldier' stretches far beyond the uses of the US military service, but thats the only one I care about as a US serviceman.
Even soldiers agree on this point.
User avatar #14 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Why does it matter? We train you, give you the gun and the gear and you go kill shit. Regardless of what word you want to be called you do your duty.

I have marine friends and they don't mind getting called soldiers. Most people call anyone who is employed by the government in a military role a soldier.

So I don't see why it matters.
#17 - theonlytinman (09/30/2013) [-]
Because its a different job. The army is much more all encompassing in their actual uses. They have corpsmen, battlefield medics, and a great number more tankers and pilots, as well as more versatile equipment. On the other hand, marines are trained harder for worse conditions, are trained to do more with less, to shoot more accurately, to do everything more effectively, and to kill more efficiently. We're a force in reaction. We see a war, we go fuck things up, and we leave.

Those are the biggest differences, but perhaps the biggest reason we call them soldiers and ourselves marines is this: Pride in your branch. Its the little rivalries that we can all acknowledge and crack jokes on and have competitions over, but still be able to look past to get the job done. I've trained and worked at four different multi-branch bases and some of the best NCO's I've met have been Soldiers and Airmen.

But the difference is there, and its something to accept, not to be argued about because it won't change anything.

tl;dr
You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Marines kick ass. Oorah, yut, kill, do one for Chesty.
User avatar #25 - reaperriley (09/30/2013) [-]
Im not arguing anything. You were the one who jumped in an "correct" someone. I was asking if it really matter, and your answer seems to be that it doesn't. Either way, Good luck in all your endeavors and don't get killed on your next tour.
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User avatar #27 - cubanwhiteman (09/27/2013) [-]
it wasn't even that good anyways. I stopped playing after a week or so. I beat the game about 2 or 3 times.

I don't mean to say it's bad, just not a huge improvement from D2, since you know, it took so fuckin long.
#25 - grandlordchicken (09/27/2013) [-]
I hear the third ones coming out soon
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#19 - alexwinning (09/24/2013) [-]
>presented with more than enough solid evidence
>vast majority of the scientific community "believes" in evolution
>creationists still think evolution isn't true
Listen, I get that everyone has their own opinions and ideas and beliefs, but come on. Evolution is just one of those things that is obviously true, and if you don't "believe" in it then you are going to get left behind intellectually. Although, I think the worst part is that schools aren't allowed to teach that evolution is virtually fact because creationists have made such a big deal out of it. In most American schools, teachers will tell their students to learn about evolution, but tell them that they can believe what they want and that evolution is just a theory. Evolution may be a theory, but so is gravity. And we're pretty damn sure that gravity is real. Just like how we're pretty damn sure that evolution is real.
But who am I kidding. I won't convince anyone. This isn't a political discussion website, or a scientific journal. Just keep believing in what you believe in, or whatever.
User avatar #25 - theonlytinman (09/24/2013) [-]
You gotta remember, some creationists are of the opinion that the higher power (God, in my case) made things as they were with the plan for them to evolve.
User avatar #22 - effthree (09/24/2013) [-]
Actually quite a large number of denominations under many religions from christianity to islam, yes, even islam, have accepted and/or incorporated varying degrees of evolution into the creation
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User avatar #57 - LaBarata (09/19/2013) [-]
Or Episodes 2-3. Or Ghostbusters 2.
User avatar #77 - Bad Man (09/19/2013) [-]
Or Super Mario Brothers
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User avatar #143 - happytimesfome (09/16/2013) [-]
I learned a lot from this thred
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#130 - notafunnyguy (09/16/2013) [-]
>thinks by getting involved in conflict were avoiding getting involved in conflict
>weapons of mass destruction were searched for over 10 years and never found
>thinks things are getting better, hasnt realized the increase of war and conflict over the past 11 years in various countries simultaneously by america alone
>thinks america is in good enough shape that we can afford to go at war with any country that pulls out their shiny guns to anyone else regardless of if were involved

there are people out there that think like this folks. there are people out there that believe every word of the media then say they are educated.

this is whats wrong with america lol
#137 - theonlytinman (09/16/2013) [-]
Its like talking to a wall, really. You will believe what you want to believe.

1. I didn't say that causing conflict avoids conflict. I said that it keeps it contained within the country at fault and the fuck away from America.
2. No, we didn't find them. It doesn't make his threats of them any less relevant. Its something we can't ignore. That's why I put it in quotations.
3. I was talking about the improvement of Afghanistan. Again, if you don't know that situation, go educate yourself on how things were and how they have improved.
4. We can afford to go to war. That's why we do it. We maintain positive security and watch our own ass by shutting down potential threats in any country. I have an idea! Maybe other countries should quit waving their shitty guns at innocent civilians! Its like America is a big brother defending a little brother when the school bully is picking on it.

See how you've skewed my points in a sad attempt to make America look bad, and simultaneously ignored every valid point that I've made? You are no better than the media that you keep accusing.

That being said, you are indeed fun to debate with. I have to go to work now but I'd love to continue this later. Your point of view is very interesting.
User avatar #143 - happytimesfome (09/16/2013) [-]
I learned a lot from this thred
thinks
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#126 - notafunnyguy (09/16/2013) [-]
>9/11
>during the 80's

no but seriously . nobody ever "asks" for help from america. america just marches into countries with currently progressing conflict , causes a bunch more conflict on a much more extreme level , and then marches out all smug like they just did everyone a favor. kind of like that one kid in middle school who had to jump into any fight he saw, fought the losing side, then acted like he was all tough and mighty and revered
#129 - theonlytinman (09/16/2013) [-]
If you don't understand what I was saying about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the 80's that lead up to 9/11, you need to educate yourself.

Secondly, did you not read what I wrote? I said very clearly that America covers its own ass by keeping the conflict contained within the country. Nobody asked for our help in Iraq, but if we didn't then Saddam Hussein would be doing whatever the fuck he wanted with his "weapons of mass destruction" which would prove to be unfavorable for anyone considering how easily he wiped the Kurds out of existence. Not a good example? Ok, how about the Al-Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan? If we did not get involved, hundreds of thousands of innocent afghan civilians would be living under the tyranny of the Taliban. Hell, that still might happen, but in general we have solved the problem, and things are getting better.

Sometimes its hard to see the bigger picture that America has in mind, but it is definitely there and other countries are quick to forget how much they get to relax while America is on the job.
#130 - notafunnyguy (09/16/2013) [-]
>thinks by getting involved in conflict were avoiding getting involved in conflict
>weapons of mass destruction were searched for over 10 years and never found
>thinks things are getting better, hasnt realized the increase of war and conflict over the past 11 years in various countries simultaneously by america alone
>thinks america is in good enough shape that we can afford to go at war with any country that pulls out their shiny guns to anyone else regardless of if were involved

there are people out there that think like this folks. there are people out there that believe every word of the media then say they are educated.

this is whats wrong with america lol
#137 - theonlytinman (09/16/2013) [-]
Its like talking to a wall, really. You will believe what you want to believe.

1. I didn't say that causing conflict avoids conflict. I said that it keeps it contained within the country at fault and the fuck away from America.
2. No, we didn't find them. It doesn't make his threats of them any less relevant. Its something we can't ignore. That's why I put it in quotations.
3. I was talking about the improvement of Afghanistan. Again, if you don't know that situation, go educate yourself on how things were and how they have improved.
4. We can afford to go to war. That's why we do it. We maintain positive security and watch our own ass by shutting down potential threats in any country. I have an idea! Maybe other countries should quit waving their shitty guns at innocent civilians! Its like America is a big brother defending a little brother when the school bully is picking on it.

See how you've skewed my points in a sad attempt to make America look bad, and simultaneously ignored every valid point that I've made? You are no better than the media that you keep accusing.

That being said, you are indeed fun to debate with. I have to go to work now but I'd love to continue this later. Your point of view is very interesting.
User avatar #143 - happytimesfome (09/16/2013) [-]
I learned a lot from this thred
thinks
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#53 - xxxansweredxxx (09/16/2013) [-]
Damn, that was the last of my Didney collection. It's been a pleasure, good sir. Have some thumbs.

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#53 - xxxansweredxxx (09/16/2013) [-]
Damn, that was the last of my Didney collection. It's been a pleasure, good sir. Have some thumbs.

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#1 - instalation (01/23/2013) [-]
Comment virginity taken! But on another note, you're like the first guy on FJ who says he is religious and doesn't get raped with red thumbs.
User avatar #2 to #1 - theonlytinman (01/23/2013) [-]
Its because I dont cram it down everyone's throat, except like, on previous comment boards. but those are less to try and change minds, and more along the lines of me getting insight on how people see things.
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I don't either, but then again I don't ever post on it.
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