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|#124 - Well during the 80s, we gave Afghans some weapons and support … [+] (8 new replies)||09/16/2013 on Knock knock. . .||+1|
#146 - kirkybobz (09/16/2013) [-]
Not quite what happened in Afghanistan, bud.
The government were pro-Soviet, and the Taliban were anti-communist rebels. America gave the Taliban weaponry to take over the country and fight the Soviets, which they did.
Then it turned out that the Taliban weren't freedom fighters, but in fact were Islamist tyrants. But they weren't cutting into the US's market, so they left them alone.
And THEN 9/11 happened.
#148 - kirkybobz (09/16/2013) [-]
You're right, the Mujahideen came first. But the removal of the pro-Soviet government on the collapse of the Soviet Union created a power vaccuum, just like in Libya and Egypt, in which an Islamist power rose to take control; the Taliban.
"History repeats itself because nobody listens."
#126 - notafunnyguy (09/16/2013) [-]
>during the 80's
no but seriously . nobody ever "asks" for help from america. america just marches into countries with currently progressing conflict , causes a bunch more conflict on a much more extreme level , and then marches out all smug like they just did everyone a favor. kind of like that one kid in middle school who had to jump into any fight he saw, fought the losing side, then acted like he was all tough and mighty and revered
#129 - theonlytinman (09/16/2013) [-]
Secondly, did you not read what I wrote? I said very clearly that America covers its own ass by keeping the conflict contained within the country. Nobody asked for our help in Iraq, but if we didn't then Saddam Hussein would be doing whatever the fuck he wanted with his "weapons of mass destruction" which would prove to be unfavorable for anyone considering how easily he wiped the Kurds out of existence. Not a good example? Ok, how about the Al-Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan? If we did not get involved, hundreds of thousands of innocent afghan civilians would be living under the tyranny of the Taliban. Hell, that still might happen, but in general we have solved the problem, and things are getting better.
Sometimes its hard to see the bigger picture that America has in mind, but it is definitely there and other countries are quick to forget how much they get to relax while America is on the job.
#130 - notafunnyguy (09/16/2013) [-]
>thinks by getting involved in conflict were avoiding getting involved in conflict
>weapons of mass destruction were searched for over 10 years and never found
>thinks things are getting better, hasnt realized the increase of war and conflict over the past 11 years in various countries simultaneously by america alone
>thinks america is in good enough shape that we can afford to go at war with any country that pulls out their shiny guns to anyone else regardless of if were involved
there are people out there that think like this folks. there are people out there that believe every word of the media then say they are educated.
this is whats wrong with america lol
#137 - theonlytinman (09/16/2013) [-]
1. I didn't say that causing conflict avoids conflict. I said that it keeps it contained within the country at fault and the fuck away from America.
2. No, we didn't find them. It doesn't make his threats of them any less relevant. Its something we can't ignore. That's why I put it in quotations.
3. I was talking about the improvement of Afghanistan. Again, if you don't know that situation, go educate yourself on how things were and how they have improved.
4. We can afford to go to war. That's why we do it. We maintain positive security and watch our own ass by shutting down potential threats in any country. I have an idea! Maybe other countries should quit waving their shitty guns at innocent civilians! Its like America is a big brother defending a little brother when the school bully is picking on it.
See how you've skewed my points in a sad attempt to make America look bad, and simultaneously ignored every valid point that I've made? You are no better than the media that you keep accusing.
That being said, you are indeed fun to debate with. I have to go to work now but I'd love to continue this later. Your point of view is very interesting.
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