It hasn't been used since because it was outlawed because of the wanton destruction that can be caused by a single plane.
You're also missing the point of using the nukes in the first place
A single firebombing raid in Japan did more damage and caused more casualties than both of the nuclear strikes combined. And we firebombed japan multiple times.
Those nukes did damn near jack shit nothing except scare people relatively

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Nope, it was millions of soldiers. Not just American soldiers, of course. And also, the Japanese wouldn't have surrendered if it weren't for the nukes because the Emperor was adamant they could win a war of attrition, which they definitely could of were the allies forced to invade. Only several megatons of nuclear freedom convinced him otherwise, and he sued for peace.

Hirahito was just talking tough to get a peace deal, he wasn't an idiot. Do you think he thought they could outlast the US and USSR? Not to mention the other allies who would have entered the Pacific theater if they had been needed. Which they wouldn't have been. Hirahito's whole reasoning was to try and get a respectable peace deal

his plan for a peace deal, though, was for the allies to continue to bleed themselves out. If the small islands in the pacific that cost the americans so greatly don't serve as a perfect example of what the cost could have been, i don't know what can get into your head. Also keep in mind that the IJA was still a significant force

The IJA was nothing compared to the might of the American and Soviet militaries. You do raise a fair point about the smaller islands, but my point is that given a few more months and staring both militaries in the face, they would have given up. And the idea that they were actually going to fight to the last man, regardless of their chance of victory doesn't make sense to me. I realize that honor was strongly emphasized in Japanese culture, but if they were so against surrender, why did they do it when the bombs fell? If they were really going to fight to the last man they would've done it in spite of the bombs. They knew they couldn't last

Keep in mind there were elements of the Japanese army fighting into the 50's and some into the 60's and beyond, albeit at a much less substantial size. So you think these chaps wouldn't fight to the last man in defense of their homes, if they'd spend decades fighting their own guerrilla war abroad?

Some of them might, yes, but not enough to be a significant threat. It's also worth noting that a great number of these Japanese forces that continued to fight were unaware of what had happened. They didn't know that Japan had surrendered, they lost contact with the outside world and thus had no way of knowing

you just proved my point. They had no real reason or order to fight, and even though they weren't exactly doing it for shit's n gigs, they didn't even have nearly as much a motive as if they were defending the homeland

I would contend that if they had knowledge of Japan's surrender, they wouldn't have continued to fight. Yes there's something to be said for Japanese pride and honor, but they wanted to go home to their families too. Especially if they knew of the lenient conditions of Japan's surrender

Actually, most of the smaller groups that continued fighting the longest, cells of ~10-15ish, were aware of the surrender and thought it was false. The only reason larger groups didn't know of this was because they were bigger, and could afford to kill anything that came there way, especially uniformed couriers

Well, I respect your argument but I still don't agree. Just because some did doesn't mean a significant number would. And if the mentality was THAT strong, the bombs wouldn't have made a difference. I just think we too often buy into what we're told. The Japanese have been demonized just like any other enemy. And of course, it makes sense to demonize them, but it's important to recognize this.

The amount of Americans here who are absolutely certain without doubt that millions of soldiers would have died had the bombs not be dropped suggests brainwashing more than anything, to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised, either; I've heard from several Americans that U.S. schools are usually big on pro-American propaganda.

As an American I absolutely agree. Everyone here thinks Emperor Hirahito was an idiot and though he could win a war against the world. We demonize all of our enemies. Not to see that we're always wrong, obviously some don't need much, but the Japanese in World War II were certainly demonized to justify American actions

Well, the emperor would not have surrendered. At the time, Japan and America were similar in the aspect of every citizen grabbing a weapon and fighting the invaders. Only 250,000 died in the nuclear attacks combined. Yes it was a lot, but it saved more Japanese, American, and Russian lives. The nukes were also a display of power to tell the world not to fuck with us, especially the Soviets. Japan sucker punched us, it was also about revenge. Japan threw the first stone, we dropped the last two mountains.

To me it just sounds very backward to talk about revenge and "telling the world not to fuck with us". Besides, a lot of people would argue that the Japanese were provoked to attack Pearl Harbour. Either way we are clearly of different schools of thought.

How? We got revenge, and at the same time told the world we are not to be fucked with. And hindsight is 20/20. But the nukes were the right choice. Japan had 2 million troops and 28 million civilians all prepared for an invasion. the nukes saved many more lives than they took.

I mean no offense, I just think talking about war this way is primitive. Military power or past military merits is nothing to be proud of, as I see it.

I see your point sir. I dont agree with you, i think military power is something to be proud of, without you would be speaking russian or be dead. But i appreciate you not being a dickhead to me. So here is an awesome gif.

I don't think you quite understand how fanatic the japanese would have been. Every single person would have attempted to arm themselves against the americans, be it was sticks, stones, or what have you. It would have been very very costly

Do you really think every single person in Japan was that brainwashed? Yes that mentality did exist in their culture but there's no way they would've all armed themselves for war. We tend to forget that the Japanese were rational human beings too. And again, while there is some truth to that idea, it was greatly exaggerated at the time and still is today

They would fight either way, be it through patriotism or through forced service

You can't claim it was a million soldiers, when you have no evidence to prove it would of been. The nukes didn't just end a war, it cause catastrophic effects for many years to civilians, it's the fact that you think killing a million people was worth it, without knowing or trying to gain any other outcome.
If it was so effective, why haven't you used it since?
Because people might use it back? Would you except the use of a Nuke on your area killed everyone you know, if it saved a million strangers... For no other reason than, they want them to live more than you.

It hasn't been used since because it was outlawed because of the wanton destruction that can be caused by a single plane.
You're also missing the point of using the nukes in the first place
A single firebombing raid in Japan did more damage and caused more casualties than both of the nuclear strikes combined. And we firebombed japan multiple times.
Those nukes did damn near jack shit nothing except scare people relatively

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I didn't compare anything. I stated a fact: you've got your reason, and I don't. And if I do, I don't know it. Which is pretty much the same right now.

Does it make it easier? Simpler doesn't exactly mean "easier". You've told me you aren't better and you probably won't get better, even when you know why are you like that. Finding out why am I like this won't change a thing. Won't make me happier. Won't make me sadder. Understanding it will not make it disappear. I don't even know if I can be helped though. I've been like this pretty much since... always. For no reason. What would a therapy do?

What about you? Why you don't go therapy?

I meant easier to understand, not easier to cope with.
Understanding I guess kinda helps, makes it easier to explain to people and not have to cope with the negative reactions if you didn't.
I guess I don't see the point, when all they'll do is ask for what happened in the past and "how it makes me feel" which in all honesty just sound more distressing (as I wouldn't be able to explain), than it would be helping.

Not at all. I usually think that I'm just overreacting. I usually think I'm some kind of spoiled brat because I can't appreciate what I've got. My life is good and I've got no actual reason to be like this, unlike you. I've got no idea why I care so little about living or not.

It's a paradox, but one of the reasons I'm still living is because other people need me (for example, my mother). I don't exactly love her but on the other hand I don't want her (nor anyone who cares about me) get hurt. I'm filled with incoherencies (I'm not even sure if this is a word).

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To compare situations is just stupid, you for one should understand how emotions are complex and hard to understand. Some people handle things in life different than others, no matter what battles they face..
Some one will always have harder battled they've faced in life, doesn't make the ones you face any less of a reason to why you may be the way you are.
I know what has made me like I am, and in a way it makes it simpler to understand.
You might find it easier, even if you just went to figure out why?

I didn't compare anything. I stated a fact: you've got your reason, and I don't. And if I do, I don't know it. Which is pretty much the same right now.

Does it make it easier? Simpler doesn't exactly mean "easier". You've told me you aren't better and you probably won't get better, even when you know why are you like that. Finding out why am I like this won't change a thing. Won't make me happier. Won't make me sadder. Understanding it will not make it disappear. I don't even know if I can be helped though. I've been like this pretty much since... always. For no reason. What would a therapy do?

What about you? Why you don't go therapy?

I meant easier to understand, not easier to cope with.
Understanding I guess kinda helps, makes it easier to explain to people and not have to cope with the negative reactions if you didn't.
I guess I don't see the point, when all they'll do is ask for what happened in the past and "how it makes me feel" which in all honesty just sound more distressing (as I wouldn't be able to explain), than it would be helping.

Alright, I misunderstood that. Sorry.
Have you tried getting some therapy or something?

Not really, have you?

Not at all. I usually think that I'm just overreacting. I usually think I'm some kind of spoiled brat because I can't appreciate what I've got. My life is good and I've got no actual reason to be like this, unlike you. I've got no idea why I care so little about living or not.

It's a paradox, but one of the reasons I'm still living is because other people need me (for example, my mother). I don't exactly love her but on the other hand I don't want her (nor anyone who cares about me) get hurt. I'm filled with incoherencies (I'm not even sure if this is a word).

Pic very related.

To compare situations is just stupid, you for one should understand how emotions are complex and hard to understand. Some people handle things in life different than others, no matter what battles they face..
Some one will always have harder battled they've faced in life, doesn't make the ones you face any less of a reason to why you may be the way you are.
I know what has made me like I am, and in a way it makes it simpler to understand.
You might find it easier, even if you just went to figure out why?

I didn't compare anything. I stated a fact: you've got your reason, and I don't. And if I do, I don't know it. Which is pretty much the same right now.

Does it make it easier? Simpler doesn't exactly mean "easier". You've told me you aren't better and you probably won't get better, even when you know why are you like that. Finding out why am I like this won't change a thing. Won't make me happier. Won't make me sadder. Understanding it will not make it disappear. I don't even know if I can be helped though. I've been like this pretty much since... always. For no reason. What would a therapy do?

What about you? Why you don't go therapy?

I meant easier to understand, not easier to cope with.
Understanding I guess kinda helps, makes it easier to explain to people and not have to cope with the negative reactions if you didn't.
I guess I don't see the point, when all they'll do is ask for what happened in the past and "how it makes me feel" which in all honesty just sound more distressing (as I wouldn't be able to explain), than it would be helping.