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#17 - thekieran (04/30/2014) [-]
But I'd rather point out that you're bringing up something that happened 200 years ago and trying to use that to say that America's land doesn't belong to America.
Well sir, you are wrong. The louisiana purchase was done so with legal tender from the americans to the french. It was constitutional but, went against what Alexander Hamilton himself personally believed. And as VP it was his duty to say something, though he did not.
Now, on to you "it isn't yours to border" bullshit.
ifyou can defend it, if you can hold it, if you can govern it, if you can make laws in it, and if you can sell it's land, then yes. it is yours to border.
The Louisisana purchase was legit, and America can border whatever it wants. As long as they can back it up.
(btw, not sure if you were trying to draw a wild comparison, or you're just fucking stupid. But Louisiana doesn't border Mexico.)
#28 - thekieran (04/30/2014) [-]
If they can fuckin hold it, then they own it. That's what a border is. You think borders are made buy who claims it first? No.
Puerto Rico, American territory.
Canary Islands, American territory
Alaska, American state,
Hawaii, American state.
Only one of those was purchased, the others were taken. If you can hold your line on a map, anything behind it becomes yours. That's how maps work. It doesn't matter if I'm ok with Russia taking the Ukraine. What matters is if anyone is going to do anything about it, and if they do, can Russia keep the land it has taken. THAT is a border.
#30 - thekieran (04/30/2014) [-]
It doesn't matter if you disagree. That is the actual definition of a border.
A border is a political line on a map that is defined by the strength of a country and it's ability to take more land. You can't just say "fuck you" to that. You're dead fucking wrong if you think a border is some mamby pamby bullshit with money and people. it's not. it's bullets. it's steel, and it's whatever you've got to back up your invading force. America bought Louisiana but only because we didn't want to piss off the french at the time. They could have tried to take it but didn't.
If you're going to be a moron on the internet, at least know your history and/or know what the hell you're talking about.
#33 - budokai (04/30/2014) [-]
No, thats athe medieval definition of a border, now they are definied by the existence of a government that is recognised by other governments (or sovereigns depending on what type of ruling system you have).
I couldnt really give less of a fuck about louisiana and whatever the fuck happened 200 years ago. What you forget is that that IS 200 YEARS AGO. Get over it.
Well done with all your talk of 'its steel, and bullets' etc etc sho your own ignorance.
Lets scale thigns down a bit. If you take a gun and a knife, jump ver the border of your land and into your neighbours, then shoot him and claim that land as your own, allowing (oh so graciously) for the dead persons family to remain on the land as long as they pay you. Well guess the fuck what, you ain't going to be around there for long.
Males no difference between 1 man of 1 million walknig across a border, doesn't mean that that land is yours, . jast makes the legal and political climates a bit more compolicated.
#34 - thekieran (04/30/2014) [-]
I'm not sure you understand the definition of ownership.....
If the natives can overthrow you, then sure. You don't own the land anymore.
But if you can enslave, or break the will of the natives, then the land is yours.
see, English and the Native Americans.
Spanish and the native Mayans.
the English and THE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD.
The English used to have an empire so large that the sun literally never set on it. one bit of the English empire always saw sunlight. The did this by expanding their borders and taking lad from the native peoples. this didn't collapse completely until ww2 when they needed to focus resources on defending against the Germans
When you take land from people, just so long as you can hold it, it belongs to you. if you can keep them off of it, then it is yours. if you can keep others from taking it, then it is yours.
I don't know what it is you're trying to say. "it spiritually belongs to them" well that's fine and dandy, but the conquering force is the one whose going to be able to use it's farms and resources.
ownership comes from being able to keep others off of what is yours.
Lastly. Government comes after invasion. You have to take the land, before you can make laws for it.
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