I agree with most of what you say, but you really sound like a person who've been hurt enough times to become cold... I'm perfectly happy by myself to, but that doesn't mean i couldn't be happier if i was in a relationship.

Nope, I've been in a happy relationship for 6 years now with the same person. Now, granted him and I have had our fallouts from time to time, so does every couple. Like I said, another person can GREATLY enhance your happiness, and you should enjoy it and cherish it.. However, there is always a chance that something will happen. I'm not saying "Fuck relationships, you're better on your own!", but I am saying that you should always be able to create your own happiness if no one else can.

You basically reiterated my point. You should be happy in a relationship,, but you can be happy on your own too.

Oh, fair enough then, guess my concern was on needed ;D

so you're saying that if you're not happy on your own, and somebody else makes you happy, that you will never be happy?

Yes, because that person could easily leave. You can be happier with someone in your life, but if you become unhappy and depressed without them (minus the normal grieving period), you probably won't be happy. It's always better to be self-reliant.

I agree with most of what you say, but you really sound like a person who've been hurt enough times to become cold... I'm perfectly happy by myself to, but that doesn't mean i couldn't be happier if i was in a relationship.

Nope, I've been in a happy relationship for 6 years now with the same person. Now, granted him and I have had our fallouts from time to time, so does every couple. Like I said, another person can GREATLY enhance your happiness, and you should enjoy it and cherish it.. However, there is always a chance that something will happen. I'm not saying "Fuck relationships, you're better on your own!", but I am saying that you should always be able to create your own happiness if no one else can.

You basically reiterated my point. You should be happy in a relationship,, but you can be happy on your own too.

Oh, fair enough then, guess my concern was on needed ;D

well the person that i knew remained the same as he was when he was in a relationship even after the relationship ended

Then all he needed was a motivational push, not someone.
Look, you can't NEED someone. Other people have separate lives, and usually theirs is more important. If yours conflicts with theirs, you can bet your ass that you're out. If you need someone to make yourself happy, you will never be happy.

so you're saying that if you're not happy on your own, and somebody else makes you happy, that you will never be happy?

Yes, because that person could easily leave. You can be happier with someone in your life, but if you become unhappy and depressed without them (minus the normal grieving period), you probably won't be happy. It's always better to be self-reliant.

I agree with most of what you say, but you really sound like a person who've been hurt enough times to become cold... I'm perfectly happy by myself to, but that doesn't mean i couldn't be happier if i was in a relationship.

Nope, I've been in a happy relationship for 6 years now with the same person. Now, granted him and I have had our fallouts from time to time, so does every couple. Like I said, another person can GREATLY enhance your happiness, and you should enjoy it and cherish it.. However, there is always a chance that something will happen. I'm not saying "Fuck relationships, you're better on your own!", but I am saying that you should always be able to create your own happiness if no one else can.

You basically reiterated my point. You should be happy in a relationship,, but you can be happy on your own too.

Oh, fair enough then, guess my concern was on needed ;D

i've seen even an slightly unstable relationship make somebody fix tghemselves

If it takes someone else for you to fix yourself, than you have deeper rooted issues. You should never need someone else to better yourself. Plus, other people aren't always permanent. What happens when they leave and you're left with yourself again? Do you turn into a wreck again?
Point being, fix yourself for yourself. Not for anyone else.

well the person that i knew remained the same as he was when he was in a relationship even after the relationship ended

Then all he needed was a motivational push, not someone.
Look, you can't NEED someone. Other people have separate lives, and usually theirs is more important. If yours conflicts with theirs, you can bet your ass that you're out. If you need someone to make yourself happy, you will never be happy.

so you're saying that if you're not happy on your own, and somebody else makes you happy, that you will never be happy?

Yes, because that person could easily leave. You can be happier with someone in your life, but if you become unhappy and depressed without them (minus the normal grieving period), you probably won't be happy. It's always better to be self-reliant.

I agree with most of what you say, but you really sound like a person who've been hurt enough times to become cold... I'm perfectly happy by myself to, but that doesn't mean i couldn't be happier if i was in a relationship.

Nope, I've been in a happy relationship for 6 years now with the same person. Now, granted him and I have had our fallouts from time to time, so does every couple. Like I said, another person can GREATLY enhance your happiness, and you should enjoy it and cherish it.. However, there is always a chance that something will happen. I'm not saying "Fuck relationships, you're better on your own!", but I am saying that you should always be able to create your own happiness if no one else can.

You basically reiterated my point. You should be happy in a relationship,, but you can be happy on your own too.

Oh, fair enough then, guess my concern was on needed ;D

They are not. He got in a fight with one of his friends when he was younger over a girl they both liked, and the guy had a ring on his finger.
Here's a better picture to see it.

You could be right. I was just making a joke. Although it would be kind of cool to have one over dilated pupil in a weird way (minus the obvious health demerits).

He actually has trouble seeing out of that eye that's permanently dilated...
And it probably would be pretty cool, you could freak out a few people with that eye.

I'd imagine it's like the exam your eye doctor does every 2 or 3 years. I had it done a few days ago, and I got a massive headache whenever I tried to see anything up close for like 4 hours. I walked around either squinting or holding my eyes open like some fucked up psycho.
Definitely worth it. I'd do it.

I haven't had that procedure done to me for a very long time, but one of my relatives scared the hell out of me a few weeks back when I met her after the eye doctor did an exam... Freaky as hell considering the place was kind of bright.

I looked like I had done a boatload of psychadelics. It really looked like there was just no color to my eye. I walked there, so walking home in the sunlight was a nightmare. Minus all that, it was pretty cool looking in the mirror. I sat forever and stared to see if I could watch it go down, but I got bored and left eventually.

*Blowie

Why are you thumbing this guy down? It's true! And Bowie's eye was damaged so much he only sees brown hues out of it, which probably explains why it's a different color.

They are not. He got in a fight with one of his friends when he was younger over a girl they both liked, and the guy had a ring on his finger.
Here's a better picture to see it.

You could be right. I was just making a joke. Although it would be kind of cool to have one over dilated pupil in a weird way (minus the obvious health demerits).

He actually has trouble seeing out of that eye that's permanently dilated...
And it probably would be pretty cool, you could freak out a few people with that eye.

I'd imagine it's like the exam your eye doctor does every 2 or 3 years. I had it done a few days ago, and I got a massive headache whenever I tried to see anything up close for like 4 hours. I walked around either squinting or holding my eyes open like some fucked up psycho.
Definitely worth it. I'd do it.

I haven't had that procedure done to me for a very long time, but one of my relatives scared the hell out of me a few weeks back when I met her after the eye doctor did an exam... Freaky as hell considering the place was kind of bright.

I looked like I had done a boatload of psychadelics. It really looked like there was just no color to my eye. I walked there, so walking home in the sunlight was a nightmare. Minus all that, it was pretty cool looking in the mirror. I sat forever and stared to see if I could watch it go down, but I got bored and left eventually.

yes

No.

I lived in the undeveloped part of West Jordan a couple years ago, where there's still fields and open areas instead of buildings. They lived in this giant barn type thing, that looked like an oversized greenhouse.

I.. I love you.

For being from Utah. Home state right there.
Then I moved to this shithole called Mississippi. ._.

I've really grown to love downtown since I moved out of the undeveloped parts. Nothing beats walking downtown late at night (I like the lights).

That sounds more like culture than polygamy. All polygamy states is that one person is married to two. No more, no less. What you're describing has nothing to do with polygamy, just a shitty fuckin culture.

You could definitely be right. However, in my personal experience, I have NEVER met a polygamist who hasn't done it for religious reasons or the reasons I listed. I've never met an honest-to-god normal family that just had 2 wives. It's always the overly dominant husband with 5 wives that look like they're straight outta Plymouth with kids that look like they haven't eaten in 3 years.
I guess you definitely could be right, I was just describing my experience.

That has nothing to do with polygamy though...that's just a bad family. If polygamy was legal, people wouldn't be FORCED into it. It's just marriage with more than 1 person...why should it be associated with violence?

Like I said, that's what we have here. If you read the reply above this one, I stated that this is just my personal experience. I'm not saying all polygamy is bad, I was just trying to state why there's such a negative stigma attached to it here.
I never said "Polygamy is bad", I just said "well, this is why people don't like it". When people here picture polygamy, that's what they picture.

Did you ever report the abuse to the police?

Of course we did, especially when we saw it. Unfortunately, the police here are quite incompetent and took several days to respond, and by then, the husband had coerced the wives into denying everything, and the kids stayed quiet out of fear. We were never allowed onto their compound, but we did try to stop it.