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#523 - 2:45 Are you ******* kidding me, hes applying that because a 1… 03/15/2016 on /pol/ was right /pol/ was... 0
#522 - Jesus chirst your saying this guy is respected? He opens the f…  [+] (5 new replies) 03/15/2016 on /pol/ was right /pol/ was... 0
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#524 - lotengo (03/15/2016) [-]
>Jesus chirst your saying this guy is respected?

Skipped 2 classes in his early years, graduated summa cum laude from UCLA and cum laude from Harvard Law School.
At the age of 32 he has published 6 books, the first one was published when he was 20 but he wrote it at age 17.
And im not evn talking about what he already achieved in the media
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#532 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
>Equating writing books to being an intelligent or respect researcher

He doesnt even give citations to his sources
If i give the same stance to christains on whether or not all countries should use the ten commandments and the teachings of God, do you not think they would agree?
Even when the bible says about stoning women too?

The difference beween Christianity and islam in our progressive nature is that islam has been circle jerking itself since the dawn of the ottoman empire until the end of WW1. While Christianity initial teachings had enough forgiveness and less conquering in them that we've had 2000 years of progressive changes, although christianity has its very very dark spots.
Islam needs to lose its radical nature but people like Ben here showcasing everyone with broad strokes and little detail doesnt make islamists go "I guess I better not follow my relgion" they think "the west hates me, i must go further into my religion to find safety"

His arguements are weak, he doesnt give specfics of these "peer-reviewed " questions, he doesnt say how many muslims were asked in these countries of up to 200 million muslims in some instances....
Iran, Iraq and afghanistan used to be very very liberal places but dictatorships of either religious or fasicst kind came in and either forced these values on these people or made it seem like their only escape was extremism.
They've only been exposed to western values on a western scale for the last 20 years id say, considering some of these places are so tribal.
So to swoop in and say "They believe in sharia law" and then make it "they are radical" is not looking at A) What they believe sharia law is B) How they interept sharia law should be implemented.

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#533 - lotengo (03/15/2016) [-]
>He doesnt even give citations to his sources

He does in the beginning of the vid, try actually listening
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#535 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
Holy fuck im reading up on old benny here, he believes that sesame street and the simpsons are teaching left wing propaganda, and that stuff like MASH is pacficist propaganda too.

The guy wants to remove all palestinians from the west bank, are you fucking kidding me? Your trying to me this guy should be respected???? This guy is 100% anti-arab in Israel, how the fuck can i trust his stats at all?
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#534 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
I just rewatched the video, all he says is "all this is from peer reviewd research as of 2011", alright ok give me a link to these articles? You cant just say that as a source, you learn that when your 14 doing essays in history class!

And by the way, the guy is hardly neutral either, hes made books called "how the left is bullying America" etc... So how can i trust a guy whos not even neutral and has right wing leanings?
#131 - how ineffective* 03/15/2016 on BTFO 0
#130 - Alright so say he does pass it. he forces it to pass. …  [+] (1 new reply) 03/15/2016 on BTFO 0
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#131 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
how ineffective*
#520 - Yeah so one guy on Youtube tells me that the whole of islam is…  [+] (8 new replies) 03/15/2016 on /pol/ was right /pol/ was... 0
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#521 - lotengo (03/15/2016) [-]
Ben Shaprio is actually very respected figure, and one of the best debaters i can think of, with an impressive resume.

But besides that, everything he states is backed up by study's. So its legit, people just dont like to talk about it, especially the liberals. Denying facts and data is a hobby of them
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#523 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
2:45 Are you fucking kidding me, hes applying that because a 1/4 say that suicide bombing are justified the are radical. Im fucking living in a post good friday agreement Northern Ireland, fucking google it, and I struggle every day with rejecting the positive aspects of paramilitrary/terrorist organisations have had in Northern Ireland. You cant assume im a full on terrorist because of that one fucking factor, wholy shit. People in my country think it is 100% OK to fire bomb a hotel if their are off duty police officers inside having a party, a small population of my country think it is ok to abduct and murder civilians because of their religion. They are terrorists, but people who say that using violence to solve issues are probably sitting at around 30% in my country right now, it was probably about 65% back in the 70s! So assuming that everyone of them is a radical is insane!

2:54 "sometimes" right so because of the insane disgusting laws that they might find murdering women somtimes ok he moves them straight to radical. Christians still believe killing gay people is ok in the USA, doesnt mean i automatically classify them as radical.

3:05 Ok so just adding more radicals based on the whole sharia law arguement, assuming they agree to all aspects of it.. Nice assumptions.

3:12 Iran a country living under sharia law for decades and has now become less and less radical still supports it, its almost as if they have changed their opinion on what sharia law is.

3:27 Again, using the whole "sometimes" thing as hard evidence.... Alright so sometimes i want to steal a car, guess im automatically a criminal. Sometimes I wonder if killing civialins is a bad thing in combat, guess Im a war-criminal fascist....

4:12 Ah the creme of the crop ladies and gentlemen, he says that hamas is radical islam... A group that was formed from zionist agression against arabs and their terrorists.... its almost as if they hate israel so much they want to kill them... but im sure thats a religious thing and nothing poltical.

4:32 Oh it continues, hes pissed that palestine, a country that has been raped by Israel for decades hates israel... news flash America, most of Europe hates israel. Their fascist scum.

4:54 He never says what they justify suicide bombings for, talk to the IRA or the INLA in Ireland if they think terror attacks are acceptable btw

5:01 Another sign of just shody statistics, because a relgion is offended and they would like to legally prosecute a guy making fun of their prophet.... their instantly radical. How... how do you make that connection?? it makes zero sense!

And he finishes up as putting those statistics of sometimes, mixed, maybe ideas as hard numbers muslims. Wow, hes really inteligent, im sure he'd be accepted into the academic community for his brilliant research.
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#522 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
Jesus chirst your saying this guy is respected? He opens the first 90 seconds of this video with thinly veiled insults of those hes arguing against, no respected figure of research in the world insults those who hes arguing against. Thats rule Number fucking 1 of how to not lose a political argument.
Your not shutting up so im going to go through is video with you and explain how this is bullshit.

0:31 "Pc position that islam is tolerant and liberal" This is just wrong, if your American then you might consider myself a "liberal" even though in the UK that means nothing, and I dont think islam is a liberal religion.
They believe in a god that justifys laws above any government, the same as christianity and judism , so as a socialist, no their not liberal at all. No one is saying this shit, no one.

We all agree that islam is slightly backwards in comparison to even christainity, and as someone whos lived in a christian house and studied its faith, chirstianity is the most progressive major faith I know. However, its not liberal at all when it says that gay people should be killed and woman have to be servant to men.
So straight off the bat, who is saying is liberal and peaceful?

1:01 Radical christians are terrorists... well in NI from 60s-90s extreme protestants would kill catholics so saying that people of christian faith who are radical dont do terrorist acts is abit of a miss step.

2:03 Wow, massive assumption as the clear definitions of what sharia law are broad, but even then jews believe in their jewish courts (something we have in the UK), which rule in governmental law. So putting it as radical if you believe in sharia law is just absurd. Besides this fact, how can a poll instantly create the population of 143 million radicals, just because some believe in a certain aspect of the islamic faith. That makes no sense, you cant move from "they support sharia law" straight to "they must be terrorist feeding, freedom hating, anti-world muslims". That is just terrible terrible research work to say shit like that.

2:20 70% had postive or mixed feelings.... thats a massive percentage to NOT split? How many were mixed? I have positive to mixed feelings about the German army 1939-44 but I hate the nazis... Hes throwing these statistics around as concrete proof of pure radical islam.. thats just insane statistical abuse!
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#524 - lotengo (03/15/2016) [-]
>Jesus chirst your saying this guy is respected?

Skipped 2 classes in his early years, graduated summa cum laude from UCLA and cum laude from Harvard Law School.
At the age of 32 he has published 6 books, the first one was published when he was 20 but he wrote it at age 17.
And im not evn talking about what he already achieved in the media
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#532 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
>Equating writing books to being an intelligent or respect researcher

He doesnt even give citations to his sources
If i give the same stance to christains on whether or not all countries should use the ten commandments and the teachings of God, do you not think they would agree?
Even when the bible says about stoning women too?

The difference beween Christianity and islam in our progressive nature is that islam has been circle jerking itself since the dawn of the ottoman empire until the end of WW1. While Christianity initial teachings had enough forgiveness and less conquering in them that we've had 2000 years of progressive changes, although christianity has its very very dark spots.
Islam needs to lose its radical nature but people like Ben here showcasing everyone with broad strokes and little detail doesnt make islamists go "I guess I better not follow my relgion" they think "the west hates me, i must go further into my religion to find safety"

His arguements are weak, he doesnt give specfics of these "peer-reviewed " questions, he doesnt say how many muslims were asked in these countries of up to 200 million muslims in some instances....
Iran, Iraq and afghanistan used to be very very liberal places but dictatorships of either religious or fasicst kind came in and either forced these values on these people or made it seem like their only escape was extremism.
They've only been exposed to western values on a western scale for the last 20 years id say, considering some of these places are so tribal.
So to swoop in and say "They believe in sharia law" and then make it "they are radical" is not looking at A) What they believe sharia law is B) How they interept sharia law should be implemented.

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#533 - lotengo (03/15/2016) [-]
>He doesnt even give citations to his sources

He does in the beginning of the vid, try actually listening
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#535 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
Holy fuck im reading up on old benny here, he believes that sesame street and the simpsons are teaching left wing propaganda, and that stuff like MASH is pacficist propaganda too.

The guy wants to remove all palestinians from the west bank, are you fucking kidding me? Your trying to me this guy should be respected???? This guy is 100% anti-arab in Israel, how the fuck can i trust his stats at all?
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#534 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
I just rewatched the video, all he says is "all this is from peer reviewd research as of 2011", alright ok give me a link to these articles? You cant just say that as a source, you learn that when your 14 doing essays in history class!

And by the way, the guy is hardly neutral either, hes made books called "how the left is bullying America" etc... So how can i trust a guy whos not even neutral and has right wing leanings?
#519 - my dad was born here, his mum is 100% irish and his father is … 03/15/2016 on /pol/ was right /pol/ was... 0
#277 - HAHAH your down-voting my math correction 03/14/2016 on /pol/ was right /pol/ was... +1
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#273 - Im irish you ball bag, im white as ****. And I live …  [+] (2 new replies) 03/14/2016 on /pol/ was right /pol/ was... 0
#447 - anon (03/14/2016) [-]
>muslim family
>irish
chose one, and you will never truly by citizen of the country you crawled to, my pic shows how white you most certainly are.
Answering to your question - only muslims represents terrorists since always yelling about their snackbars and disdain to country that has guested them.
Before you will give stupid examples like breivik - he wasn't a terrorist, it was his country and he was killing sandnignogs to protect his nation, he didn't want to terrorize anybody just get rid of filth
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#519 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
my dad was born here, his mum is 100% irish and his father is from yemen and i was born here, i have a british passport and irish citizenship if I want it.
Just shows how much of a racist fuck you are.

Breivik went to a teenager left wing poltical camp and murdered them because they were socialist.
Northern Ireland had bombs every week, police officers getting shot in their homes , entire towns getting blown up, we stil have terrorists murdering soldiers and police officers... your so fucking retarded, i hope you die so someone else can use the precious oxygen you waste. Learn some history you dumb fuck.
#43 - So what your saying is hes lying. You cannot say to u…  [+] (5 new replies) 03/14/2016 on BTFO +4
#44 - anon (03/14/2016) [-]
No, he is not lying the bill would never be passed, compromises would be made autistic people seem to think Trump is going to become a dictator when he is president.
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#84 - Ruspanic (03/14/2016) [-]
So we've got a few possibilities
Either Trump doesn't really believe in his wall idea, which means he's lying.
Or Trump knows it's unfeasible and/or will never pass Congress, which means he's lying about "getting it done".
Or Trump doesn't understand it's unfeasible, which means he's not all that smart.
Or Trump thinks he can force it through Congress despite all opposition, which means he's either deluding himself or is planning to use some sort of strongman tactics.
#100 - anon (03/14/2016) [-]
well if he wants to be a true asshole as a president he can use the same powers Obama did to get his shit passed with out approval
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#130 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
Alright so say he does pass it. he forces it to pass.

Like i said in my first comment, you realise who ineffective a wall like that would be?
Im talking from history, as the berlin wall is nearly 1:1 the same idea as the trump wall.
It was fromed as a way to stop people from leaving east berlin to go west, a massive economic drain on East Germany.

The wall didnt work, people still got out, and thats with a wall that was extremely heavily guarded with 302 obersavtion posts (thats nearly 2 every km stretch), 20 bunkers, and 259 dog runs.
No one is telling you you cant build a wall, its just that it wont work.

www.berlin.de/mauer/zahlen_fakten/index.en.html
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#131 - thebtardist (03/15/2016) [-]
how ineffective*