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...and that's real shaddy reflection on our community shame on you both.

...and that's real shaddy reflection on our community shame on you both.

Are you saying the Wild West was wild because of religious zealots?

wut

You're the exception. The majority are going to be stuck down there even if they have the will to succeed.
It's proven time and time again that the States have terrible social mobility.

So what's the solution? Give them money to start their ventures? Make college free? Implement more social programs? You're doing three things: accusing the well-off of actively suppressing the poor and minorities (which is totally absurd, unless you buy into the theory that corporations actually run our government à la Zeitgeist, in which case it's just a few men, and by no means all "rich people"), accusing the poor of not having the wherewithal to make something of themselves (which, I would argue, is the real problem: teach a man to fish, and all that), and not offering any solutions.

As for social mobility (I'll ignore the fact you said "proven" without actually providing any proof), this again comes down to the why of the matter. I think it's a combination of opportunity and hard work. Give people the opportunity to learn and grow, and then make them work for the rest using the knowledge they have.

found the richfag

So lets say I'm rich.

and I'm about to tell you you can't do something.

captainprincess I as a rich person forbid you from doing what you want to do in life.

so thats it I've said it. now you cant

or is that not what you meant?

grow up

Owning a business where the owner is making 50k a month is not a business where the owner can sit and do nothing. Read the stories of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. You'll have a better understanding of what it takes to run something that big.

With that said, perhaps business owners should pay higher wages. It's hard to say because each employee is an investment, so the employee needs to return more than what he/she's being given. Most of these multi million-/billionaires likely could afford to pay more, though.

It's true though.
I desperately want to be the first in my family to ever to go to college.
But even though I have 0 debt. I but I've been denied the smallest loan because of my parents and their parents credit history.

So I'm working 45 hours a week so I can save up and pay for my 24 credit hours out of pocket.
Then maybe I can get a scholarship. For I good college. That's what I'm hoping.

I hope you get it mate

Well, yes. That's the whole fucking point of social mobility.

You're the exception. The majority are going to be stuck down there even if they have the will to succeed.
It's proven time and time again that the States have terrible social mobility.

So what's the solution? Give them money to start their ventures? Make college free? Implement more social programs? You're doing three things: accusing the well-off of actively suppressing the poor and minorities (which is totally absurd, unless you buy into the theory that corporations actually run our government à la Zeitgeist, in which case it's just a few men, and by no means all "rich people"), accusing the poor of not having the wherewithal to make something of themselves (which, I would argue, is the real problem: teach a man to fish, and all that), and not offering any solutions.

As for social mobility (I'll ignore the fact you said "proven" without actually providing any proof), this again comes down to the why of the matter. I think it's a combination of opportunity and hard work. Give people the opportunity to learn and grow, and then make them work for the rest using the knowledge they have.