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|#76 - i see your point, but i think direction does matter, especiall… [+] (1 new reply)||2 hours ago on dirty business||0|
|#74 - k, i'm equally against glorifying the junkie, for what its wor…||2 hours ago on dirty business||0|
|#9 - yeah, go ahead and glorify a killer. [+] (32 new replies)||9 hours ago on dirty business||-29|
#34 - mordenkrad (6 hours ago) [-]
It's an old Philosophy Puzzle
If there are 12 men in a sinking boat, but the weight is too much and you can not bail fast enough to keep the water out.
Now there is a fat fuck in the boat, and he an't doing nearly his share of the work, and You are CERTAIN that killing him will allow the rest of you to make it, Do you Kill him or choose to have EVERYONE drown?
Now, Extrapolate this problem further!
What if the Boat is a metaphor for a larger group of humans!
What if it is the entire human race!
#37 - captainprincess (6 hours ago) [-]
No it isn't
"for good or ill a killer is a killer"
It's not a puzzle at all, it's fucking denial
You can go ahead and reason that this or that persons killings were justified or necessary or whatever, but don't pretend that this negates their being a fucking killer
#50 - captainprincess (6 hours ago) [-]
If I did, I would make sure it's never forgotten
You don't have to look down on a killer, I can say I would be swayed to find a killer respectable if his actions were TRULY justified or necessary
But on that same merit I can't abide by letting it ever be forgotten that said person is a killer
That's the top of the slide that leads you into forgetting the weight and worth of a human life, leads you to thinking death doesn't matter
#51 - mordenkrad (6 hours ago) [-]
Just as it is from time to time, arguable necessary to take a life, is it not justifiable to allow forgiveness so the parties involved may move on?
Surly depression, hatred from peers, inability to find employment or make friends, detachment and perhaps taking their own life is not the best thing people can do?
Thirdly, I assume that we are both of the opinion that this only counts for humans? Neither of us want some one labeled a killer for being a butcher, or hitting a deer that leaps across the road?
#52 - captainprincess (6 hours ago) [-]
well many do already accuse butchers of being murderers, but yes, I value humans above all other life forms of the planet. And hitting a deer is an accident and I don't think you're talking about accidental killers here.
In any case, forgive, but don't forget. Always remember, so that you and those around you will always remember, and hopefully always value to weight of a human life and the cost of having to end one. Never make it "ok" to kill, even when absolutely necessary. That's how human life loses it's value and people become entirely expendable. Then noone is safe and noone's future is protected.
And abso-fucking-lutely most certainly, they don't need to be paraded and publically accoladed for their killing, however necessary it was. Forgive a killer sure but sure as fuck don't glorify the deed, that's just kinda sick.
Especially when you wanna use it to piss and moan about a popular singer's death being publically saluted.
"Well fuck this bitch all she did was sing you should REALLY be giving a parade for THIS guy HE KILLED OVER 300 PEOPLE BUT ITS OK THEY WERE BAD PEOPLE"
Don't glorify killing for fuck's sake
and have some human decency not to attempt to use it as a point against the mourning of someone's death, just because you or someone else maybe thought they weren't a model fucking citizen
Shit I don't know why it's so hard for so many to restrain themselves from hooting and hollering and celebrating killings, what because it was "for a good cause"?
True or not, if someone has to die you don't fucking celebrate that, that's just disgusting and personally, bordering on inhuman
#60 - mordenkrad (5 hours ago) [-]
Alright, Just like to set up common ground to build up on.
And Yes, I agree with what you seem to be saying.
but we will have to..... look sideways as it were, I am fairly sure that OP was criticizing that the person who did what he was told, what his countrymen wanted him to do and for his own beliefs of protecting them was ignored, while some drugged out has been deserved a memorial from the entire country.
Not saying either of them deserved it or that neither of them deserved it. Just relating it to the ideals that I percieve that Americans generally have for themselves, it is kinda weird?
#57 - 4chan refugee (5 hours ago) [-]
Neither should be glorified. Especially that "hero" of yours.
Most of the people he killed were probably unarmed civilians that the US army said they were "collateral damage; sorry" then they repeat the cycle elsewhere.
#87 - 4chan refugee (43 minutes ago) [-]
That is where you are wrong you stupid fuck, I met that man on one of my deployments. He is a god fearing man who would never shoot someone unless he had a very valid reason too. You pass judgement but have no idea who the man really is, therefor you are being ignorant which could be translated to? You're a fucking N I G G E R! Peace cock sucker.
#16 - captainprincess (7 hours ago) [-]
you're gonna try and paint a suicide as a murder
funny that when an actual murderer kills themselves post-rampage noone seems to count the suicide as +1 to their murder tally
but when you want to hate on someone for what, drugs? suddenly they're the same as a murderer
whitney never killed anyone
#19 - pkashp (7 hours ago) [-]
Yeah, insult me cause you lost the argument. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, dumb bitch killed herself while the dude who fought for your right to be an asshat was killed in cold blood. He deserves a second glance a lot more than she does.
Also technically speaking, it wouldn't be too hard to stick a flagpole at half-mast up your ass if I greased it enough beforehand.
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