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#109 - Yeah that can get annoying. 03/19/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... 0
#106 - And have a PM who is gonna **** us? **** we already do.  [+] (2 new replies) 03/19/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... 0
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#107 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
There is way too much shit I hate about Murica one of it being the thing I pointed out in my first comment.
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#109 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
Yeah that can get annoying.
#103 - And this depresses me.  [+] (4 new replies) 03/19/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... 0
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#104 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
Hmm I don't think I'd want to be American. I would much rather be England 2.0.
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#106 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
And have a PM who is gonna fuck us? Shit we already do.
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#107 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
There is way too much shit I hate about Murica one of it being the thing I pointed out in my first comment.
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#109 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
Yeah that can get annoying.
#44 - Battleworld/Secret Wars. Lots of universes crashed together, … 03/19/2016 on Peter and miles 0
#93 - It is more likely that Liberals use the "Literally Hitler…  [+] (6 new replies) 03/19/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... +1
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#101 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
We are England 2.0
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#103 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
And this depresses me.
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#104 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
Hmm I don't think I'd want to be American. I would much rather be England 2.0.
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#106 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
And have a PM who is gonna fuck us? Shit we already do.
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#107 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
There is way too much shit I hate about Murica one of it being the thing I pointed out in my first comment.
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#109 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
Yeah that can get annoying.
#90 - >Advocate violence against people he doesn't like The o…  [+] (3 new replies) 03/19/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... +15
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#132 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
1. Why is it about the supporters? Why is it always "A Bernie supporter did this..." I'm talking about what Trump himself is doing. He specifically said that he would pay for the legal bills of anyone willing to beat up a protester. That is advocating violence, and that is fully on him.

2. I didn't say he was a racist, and it makes me think you're a little narrow minded if you immediately think I'm calling him racist. I'm saying that his goals are division and not unification. He'd pick war over peace. That's what I'm saying.

3. We wouldn't have the economic problems if it weren't so hard for people to immigrate legally and get the papers to become a member of the economic cycle. The reason they are a drain is because they can't get in legally, so they need to fly under the radar by getting jobs that pay under the table, and when they can't do that, they need to ask for help, which results in the government needing to spend money where instead, each person could be supporting themselves as a normal citizen.

4. By cutthroat bully tactics I mean, like his past business ventures, if something isn't working right away, he cuts all ties and lets it sink at all costs. He fucks people out of millions by claiming he will help the progress of this, or that, and then instead of helping he just watches to see if it becomes successful or a failure on it's own, and either reaps the rewards, or cuts the ties. This is not the kind of action we want a president making.

5. You've got to be shitting me about him not lying. Studies show he lies on a minute to minute basis. www.freespeech.org/video/study-how-often-donald-trump-lies-complete-proof

6. People that supported Hitler said the same thing you're saying. "He's a man for the people" "if you're not for him, you're not for your country".
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#137 - pokemonstheshiz (03/19/2016) [-]
Bernie didn't say he'd pay for the legal bills, simply because he can't afford them
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#155 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
He'd make the government pay the legal bills.
#67 - Killing Joke is coming out in a couple months. Hamill a… 03/19/2016 on Batman never gets old or dull. +1
#62 - Don't ask me, I'm Canadian.  [+] (8 new replies) 03/18/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... +1
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#76 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
Same here but you called him a liberal so i thought you were American.
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#93 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
It is more likely that Liberals use the "Literally Hitler" line. And extrapolating from the surrounding and how these people are dressed and acting, they do fall into these Liberal college activist stereotypes. So it was a safe-ish assumption.
Well if you wanna be technical, we are Americans cus we live in North America.
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#101 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
We are England 2.0
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#103 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
And this depresses me.
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#104 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
Hmm I don't think I'd want to be American. I would much rather be England 2.0.
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#106 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
And have a PM who is gonna fuck us? Shit we already do.
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#107 - baseddeerlord (03/19/2016) [-]
There is way too much shit I hate about Murica one of it being the thing I pointed out in my first comment.
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#109 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
Yeah that can get annoying.
#51 - Every one of them has a punchable face. I bet all of their pa… 03/18/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... +18
#44 - He isn't and that's why they can't answer.  [+] (21 new replies) 03/18/2016 on CURRENT YEAR, LEAVE MY SON... +36
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#68 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
Trump shares major similarities with Hitler:
He advocates violence against people he does not like
His major political goals are to alienate a race of people and build some concrete structure to make sure he and his people don't need to see this race any more
He achieves success through cutthroat bully tactics and lies
He manipulates his supporters by turning them into blind followers that simply don't see the damage they are doing
His politics are militaristic and set on dividing the world, rather than bringing it closer together
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#127 - durkadurka (03/19/2016) [-]
Major similarities would be something like:
- Both have plans to exterminate millions of people
- Trump wants to seize power from a democratic government
- Trump wants to invade and conquer neighboring powers
- Trump is a national socialist.

You either need to re-visit what "major" means or you need to stop being disingenuous.

Other points:
- Trumps policies are not militaristic (certainly not to Hitleresque degrees)
>His major political goals are to alienate a race of people and build some concrete structure to make sure he and his people don't need to see this race any more

Are you suggesting that illegal immigrants are a race? Congrats you're the racist; YOU are the one assuming that illegal immigrant = brown person. Trump is against ALL illegal immigration. Hardly racist.

Your points on "bully tactics," "advocating violence" and "manipulation" essentially boil down to "he's mean" and are hardly unique qualities attributed to Hitler. They can and are applied to any number of people, historic figures or not.

So no, there are no major points of similarity.

Also, do you remember how Obama was supposed to be this great unifier? He was supposed to bring us all together because he was supposed so great and wise and whatnot. Instead he just helped push us further apart. to the point where we're more divided than ever. That's why I don't believe the "he wants to divide us" rhetoric: The people saying this are generally the same people who were saying we'd all be singing kumbaya around a campfire by now. Besides, Trump has already united an interesting coalition of voters that includes a lot of people who wouldnt normally put themselves under the Republican tent.
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#215 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/21/2016) [-]
By your logic, identical must mean that they intend to kill the exact same people, in the exact same way, during the exact same time period. Just because you can get more specific does not mean something isn't similar.
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#216 - durkadurka (03/21/2016) [-]
It's similar but not in a way that carries any merit

>Trump and Hitler were both people!
>Trump and Hitler both liked the color blue!
>Trump and Hitler both lived in houses!

You can get so general that your similarities mean little. That's what you've done.

He's not Hitler and you know it.
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#217 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/21/2016) [-]
I really haven't gone so general. If I had gone that general, the same thing could be said about any other politician. These similarities apply to Trump alone.
It's like you think anyone who likes the Jewish can never be compared to Hitler.
He shares major similarities with Hitler. I'm not saying he's Hitler, or even very much like Hitler, but he definitely shares some similarities that should scare people.
Right now he's at the AIPAC and one of his first statements is "I'm not here to pander," but then he does literally nothing but pander to the specific crowd that is at the AIPAC, which is goddamn scary considering it's a PAC that puts the needs of Israel before the needs of the US.
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#198 - nanahara (03/19/2016) [-]
Problem is you are comparing early stage Trump to late stage Hitler. it doesnt work like that.

for the rest of us that have the insight to see where this train wreck is headed, its worrying.
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#205 - durkadurka (03/19/2016) [-]
You seriously think Trump will head the way of Hilter?
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#210 - nanahara (03/19/2016) [-]
To be honest, no i don't. But i do believe that another holocaust can happen in our time, and by electing trump, we will pave the way for it to happen again. so he might not pull the trigger, but he will be loading the gun.

This is just my view on his policies towards muslims. there's a shit load of other problems i can imagine happening on other fronts such as diplomacy, foreign affairs and global climate, that would cause more instability, maybe even war, in this world.

Whether he will become the next hitler or not. i think he will be the worst choice of a president.
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#128 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
The word "major" is a little bit more subjective than you seem to understand.
And your definition of the word "similarities" seems to be "identical ideals," which is incorrect. These are similarities, and many would consider them to be major.

If you have to point out that his politics are "not to Hitleresque degrees," you're already admitting that they're close. No other candidate needs arguments like "not to a Hitleresque degree."

Trying to make me seem racist? Really? Hitler is saying he will build a wall to keep the Mexicans out. If he were also suggesting to build a wall spanning the Canadian border, you'd have a point. But he's not.

On that last one, I'm going to need citation, because you're really just making baseless claims that aren't backed by statistics.
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#134 - durkadurka (03/19/2016) [-]
>If you have to point out that his politics are "not to Hitleresque degrees,"
Don't twist my words. I was referring to the degree to which he is militaristic. (In this regard he's within our normal political spectrum BTW)

Besides, you make an incorrect assumption here. You cannot assume that if I say something is not something else that I am saying they are close. The logic does not follow.

>identical ideals
Identical means the same bud. What I listed are NOT things that are identical.

For your reference, identical would be "Trump wants to take six million Jews, put them on trains and ship them to concentration camps where they'll be worked to death or gassed" is identical, not "both seek to exterminate millions of people." The later is general and thus a similarity, the former is specific and thus an identical policy.

The things you listed aren't unique to Hitler. They aren't the things that make Hitler unique, they aren't the things that make him different and thus make a comparison valid. Even if I agreed with the points I haven't bothered to contest, they could apply to any number of people.

You could make the same comparisons between Trump and any other person or two bit dictator, but you choose Hitler. You choose Hitler because it elicits the biggest emotional response and implies (improperly) horrible things about Trump.

>Hitler is saying he will build a wall to keep the Mexicans out
You did it again! Mexicans are not a race. "Mexican is a nationality. So yeah, you are saying things that are racist.

And again, Trump is against all illegal immigration. You let me know the second there's a huge problem with illegal immigration on the Canadian border and I'm sure Trump will address that too.
It's stupid to build a huge border wall on a border with few problems and you know it. I shouldn't have to play this game. Stop being disingenuous.

Last one:
BLM, all of the racial riots, the turmoil across college campuses.
Meanwhile the GOP primaries have seen record numbers voting, while Dem numbers slide.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/21/gop-sets-another-turnout-record-democrats-numbers-/
www.cbsnews.com/news/why-are-people-changing-their-party-affiliation-this-election-cycle/

If you're American, you should already have heard these things if you're paying attention to what's been happening.


To sum up: Your comparison is too general to have any real validity or be of any real significance since it compares traits that are not unique to Hitler, but rather are things shared among a larger number of people. To try and make your comparisons you're forced to ignore the huge aspects of Hitler (the dicatorship, the socialism, the annexation of countries, the invasions, killings, world war, etc) and pretend that what's left is actually his core being.

When the man wants to massacre millions, THEN we'll talk about how he's like Hitler.
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#175 - teddybearlove (03/19/2016) [-]
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
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#125 - alcantara (03/19/2016) [-]
1. Trump does not advocate for violence against those he does not like; he has on occasion offered jokes about what he would like to do to protestors, in much the same manner as we all joke about what we would do to the referee in a football game, and on one occasion he has stated that he would be looking in to the prospect of paying the legal fees for a supporter who was involved in a physical altercation. This is really rather different to the organised thuggery of the brownshirts - if anything, Bernie Sanders et al. are closer to Hitler in that they defend the thugs and blame the target of a violent, near-riotous crowd in Chicago. The silencing of the opposition through obstruction and intimidation draws further parallel, although it is futile and wasted effort to really explore such a comparison.

2. Stopping new immigration does not mean removing those who are already in America, nor does it stop them from reproducing, nor did Trump rule out future loosening of his muslim immigration policy once Congress could actually account for the need to provide proper checks when immigrants are entering the country. Look to Paris, Cologne, Stuttgart, Calais, Stockholm, etc. to see the effects of non-vetted mass immigration from a war zone with radically different social norms. America is by no means isolated by an ocean, as the recent events in California seem to indicate. Once America can satisfy security concerns regarding immigration, only then can it enable such immigration, and the unfortunate truth is that the most obvious security threat currently comes from the muslim world.

3 & 4. These are literally "politics" - in that, the definitions of politics and power within a social science discipline stipulates that these things will happen. Do you not think that Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. lied and manipulated in order to achieve their goals? Propaganda is a powerful and common thing. These qualities are by no means atypical, and whilst they can be assigned to Hitler, they can also be assigned to any other leader. I would note, too, that the comment in regards to damage caused is entirely subjective - in the conservative mind, Obama causes harm, Clinton seeks to make it worse, and the Democrats blind the ignorant masses by promising them so many free services that they forget to ask who pays for it - and those who do ask, find that it is the next generation, and thus fail to care; they are eating their cake, and some other bugger is paying for it.

5. Drones aren't militaristic at all. Toppling regimes in Libya and Iraq aren't militaristic. Trying to topple a regime in Syria, failing, and the resulting bloody civil war isn't militaristic. How better to bring the world together than sanction your enemies, vilify the Russians no matter what they do, support Israel despite their illegal occupations and the effectual Palestinian ghetto they enforce (one could even argue genocide given the overzealous nature of Israeli "retaliation"). You are naive if you think Trump is alone in his advocacy for the use of the military, the only difference between Trump and the others is that Trump admits outright that he'd use the military whilst others hide behind drones, warships, bombers, everything but "boots on the ground".

Comparing Hitler and Trump is laughable, to anyone who has studied Hitler, and doesn't get all their opinions on Trump from the Huffington Post. That one of the worlds leading figures in the study of Fascism says it is unhelpful to label Trump as such should speak volumes; it is the like of yourself that led George Orwell to note that the word "Fascist" is so diluted and misused that the average Englishman would think it acceptably interchangable with "bully".
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#130 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
1. Someone in line to run the most militarily powerful country in the world should have a little more discretion than the average man while watching football.

2. Fine. I'll give you that one.

3. I understand that propaganda and lies are used by all parties, but Trump uses propaganda specifically targeting the uneducated in a fashion quite similar to Hitler himself.

5. Maybe the other candidates don't come out and say it because they know deep down it's wrong. Trump doesn't seem to understand that you can't just go around the world as judge and executioner, deciding what side is right, and what side is exterminated.

As to your last lines, whatever, man. If you really don't see that Trump is a risky bet, then you're probably never going to see until he makes an enemy out of every other nation on the planet. Talking to a Trump supporter is like talking to a child with their thumbs rammed into their ears. No matter how many real points I make, you'll always just yell "Nu uh, I know more about the world than you, and whatever you say is just a quote from [insert democratic news source here]"

Vote for Trump. Whatever. There are so many people that hate Trump from both parties that he'll likely be assassinated before he has a chance to make any of his potential bad decisions, so you'll still be able to say "He WOULD have made America great, but we didn't get a chance to see".

I'm done arguing. You win.
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#208 - alcantara (03/19/2016) [-]
I'm from Britain, I'm obviously not a Trump supporter; I've just had the training required to identify bias, and the training required to put aside ones own bias and adopt the position of another for the sake of argument.

On Trump being a risk; of course he is a risk, but a General Election should be genuinely contested - neither Cruz nor Kasich can unite the Republican party to offer a legitimate challenge, nor can any third party brought in via a brokered convention gain the support from a disillusioned and anti-establishment base (so far something like 77% of votes have been with Trump and Cruz). Further, Hillary Clinton would also be a risk; look at the way in which she has handled classified materials, look at how she handled Benghazi and the way in which she has conducted herself regarding Benghazi since, look at the way in which she has tried to win the woman vote by having someone condemn women to hell if they don't vote for her because of her anatomy alone, lookat the questionable links between the Clinton Foundation and her time as Secretary, not to mention the money her foundation has recieved from certain people since Bill Clinton pardoned them.

There is a lot of risk, no matter the choice.

A side note; on the rest of the world hating America, we already hate America, we are simply realists, and America is both a vital economy and the only remaining viable superpower - no matter the leader, the western world will deal with America, and the rest of the world will continue to be difficult but largely benign.
#72 - anon (03/19/2016) [-]
you REALLY need to read up on Hitler
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#73 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
The only thing there you could argue isn't accurate about Hitler is "He achieves success through cutthroat bully tactics," because he more used social manipulation, and was actually a pretty likable guy.
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#70 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
taintedangel
Calling you out for making it clear you disagree, but not stating why... like the people you were mocking.
#90 - taintedangel (03/19/2016) [-]
>Advocate violence against people he doesn't like
The only point you got going for you, and barely that. The left is the side that gets violent and calls for people to die, not the Trump supporters. Get your head out of your ass.

>Build a wall to keep Mexicans out cus he's racist
Except he's right when he says they are sending criminals over, and the FBI backs those claims.
www.wnd.com/2015/07/fbi-data-backs-up-trump-claims-on-illegals-and-crime/
He also never said no one can't come in, they just have to do it legally.

>so no his people don't see or need them anymore
Yeah, cus that's the reason for the wall, racism and clearly not any economic reasons.
thelawdictionary.org/article/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps-health-insurance-and-pay-no-taxes/
www.gao.gov/products/HEHS-98-30
freebeacon.com/issues/report-majority-of-illegal-immigrant-households-on-welfare/
cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

>Cutthroat bully tactics
How else do you win anything without being cutthroat? "Bully" is only ever used to evoke an emotional response, so discarded.

>lies
What did he lie about? Vagueness does not help your case.

>manipulating voters
"People are supporting a guy I don't personally agree with, it must be that they are being manipulated cus they are obviously stupid." He's not using the American people, they're using him. He's the only non-establishment person running who is actually listening to the majority of the people.

>followers don't see the damage they are doing
Yes it's his followers that are doing the damage, not the kids who spout this PC nonsense or the teachers that are teaching them that being white/male/straight/cis is wrong/oppressive. But Trump is the racist/sexist/whatever.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteness_studies#White_privilege

>his politics are militaristic
Only to ISIS. www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-plan-for-isis-syria-and-russia-2015-10

>Dividing the world instead of bringing it together
He wants to repair foreign relations with Russia, Isreal.
www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin-relationship/2015/07/30/id/659706/
www.jpost.com/Jerusalem-Report/Donald-Trump-Israel-and-the-Jews-438335

Sit down, son.
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#132 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
1. Why is it about the supporters? Why is it always "A Bernie supporter did this..." I'm talking about what Trump himself is doing. He specifically said that he would pay for the legal bills of anyone willing to beat up a protester. That is advocating violence, and that is fully on him.

2. I didn't say he was a racist, and it makes me think you're a little narrow minded if you immediately think I'm calling him racist. I'm saying that his goals are division and not unification. He'd pick war over peace. That's what I'm saying.

3. We wouldn't have the economic problems if it weren't so hard for people to immigrate legally and get the papers to become a member of the economic cycle. The reason they are a drain is because they can't get in legally, so they need to fly under the radar by getting jobs that pay under the table, and when they can't do that, they need to ask for help, which results in the government needing to spend money where instead, each person could be supporting themselves as a normal citizen.

4. By cutthroat bully tactics I mean, like his past business ventures, if something isn't working right away, he cuts all ties and lets it sink at all costs. He fucks people out of millions by claiming he will help the progress of this, or that, and then instead of helping he just watches to see if it becomes successful or a failure on it's own, and either reaps the rewards, or cuts the ties. This is not the kind of action we want a president making.

5. You've got to be shitting me about him not lying. Studies show he lies on a minute to minute basis. www.freespeech.org/video/study-how-often-donald-trump-lies-complete-proof

6. People that supported Hitler said the same thing you're saying. "He's a man for the people" "if you're not for him, you're not for your country".
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#137 - pokemonstheshiz (03/19/2016) [-]
Bernie didn't say he'd pay for the legal bills, simply because he can't afford them
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#155 - smittywrbmnjnsn (03/19/2016) [-]
He'd make the government pay the legal bills.