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#32 - Whites shouldn't be allowed to wear dreadlocks because our hai…  [+] (3 replies) 10/20/2016 on standards -1
#45 - anon (10/21/2016) [-]
I respect your opinion, but you are wong and I hate you blonde girls with (neat) dreadlocks my absolute kryptonite. (Doesn't hurt if they're hotof course, but blode dreads always catch my eye)
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#52 - srskate (10/21/2016) [-]
looks terrible to me.

Like that girl is attractive as hell, but I'd rather shave her head than have it like that.

but hey, to each their own
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#43 - jerkindougnuts (10/21/2016) [-]
Ive seen some people pull it off. I think you have to be the roght type of perspn to pull it off same woth the bald look.
#46 - >conflating communism with socialism OP you dumb  [+] (1 reply) 10/20/2016 on only good commie is a dead... 0
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#51 - thatguyontheright (10/21/2016) [-]
If the system isn't 100% laissez faire capitalism, it's socialist to them.
#251 - Knowing English isn't quite "enforced" that strongly…  [+] (1 reply) 10/18/2016 on I want trumps cummies 0
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#255 - finni (10/18/2016) [-]
The problem with your analogy to evolution is that in order for immigrants who don't learn English don't die out. What I mean is that in evolution, the ones who don't adapt to their environmental conditions die out while the ones who do survive. This is not an appropriate analogy to how it works for new comers.

Let's say ten people move to America from Latin America. Of those, three learn English fluently while the rest don't. The three who do learn English are more successful, but the ones who don't learn English still manage because they get help from their friends who do know English. Furthermore, the ones who come from Latin America settle with other Latinos who don't speak English so that you get a community of people who don't speak English, but know a few phrases.

Now add that up to there being no requirement for learning English and you get a large scale of the population who can't communicate with each other. Instead of trying to make the newcomers learn English, public places display the language on signs and information leaflets in Spanish. In schools, children get bilingual education which makes them prefer to their native language over English which makes their English language skills a lot poorer. News programs are shown in Spanish.

All this helps further segregation of a country's population. It helps further a "Us vs Them" mentality instead of trying to create unity and a common national identity. The only reason America has managed to go so long without an official language is because you've always assimilated the people coming.

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#245 - Yeah but America has been going on as is for about 200+ years …  [+] (3 replies) 10/18/2016 on I want trumps cummies +1
#250 - finni (10/18/2016) [-]
That's because you've always demanded assimilation from your immigrants. Scandinavians, Italians, Germans, French, Asians have all had to learn English when they moved to America. But now, for the first time, people are moving into the country in way that makes assimilation an almost impossibility.

All immigrants to America have tended to live where people from the same country came from. Scandinavians, Italians etc. all settled and built communities together. In that way, the illegal Mexicans aren't that different. What's different though is that all other legal immigrants had to go through assimilation process, were English was something they had to learn.

If you have a population which is unable to communicate with each other because of difference in language then you got a real problem. Other countries which have been multilingual, if not out right multicultural, have all had serious problems. There's lots of examples of multicultural countries that went into disorder when the strong leaders of the countries disappeared. I would not be surprised if Belgium followed the path.

Just so you know, I am not an American and my native language is not English. I am not saying English should be the Official American language because of some sort of White American xenophobia but because I think that in order to have a functional society, the population needs some sort of unity. This is in no way to discriminate against anybody and it's not to say that people can't speak other languages in private conversations of course. It's only to further assimilation and integration of newcomers and to give them an American identity.

I think Pro English gives very good reasons for why English should and needs to be the official language: proenglish.org/why-english/
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#251 - srskate (10/18/2016) [-]
Knowing English isn't quite "enforced" that strongly though (See here for exemptions www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization/exceptions-accommodations ). Citizenship requires *some* grasp of English, but not really a working understanding. Throughout American history English is learned because it is beneficial for those in America to learn it, and children of immigrants inevitably end up learning English. Even now, I can tell you countless people I've met whose parents grasp on English slips from time to time, and some that don't speak English at all. Even today, there are areas of America when another language is spoken primarily (Puerto Rico; Koreatown, California; etc), and as you pointed out in American history there were even more cases of this. However, as I've said, this lasts a generation, first generation children of immigrants are almost exclusively bilingual, and end up identifying with American culture.

As for Illegal immigrants, its somewhat akin to evolution. Which immigrant will do better, the one that can speak English or the one that cannot.

I feel as if you and I agree on a lot of the larger points, like having a common language being beneficial, but we disagree on whether English should be the *official* language. To me, it seems fundamentally American that persons from all over be accepted regardless of their language.

Lastly, it is good to know you're not an American Xenophobe. I am a little ashamed to mention this, but knowing that did make me take your argument more seriously.
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#255 - finni (10/18/2016) [-]
The problem with your analogy to evolution is that in order for immigrants who don't learn English don't die out. What I mean is that in evolution, the ones who don't adapt to their environmental conditions die out while the ones who do survive. This is not an appropriate analogy to how it works for new comers.

Let's say ten people move to America from Latin America. Of those, three learn English fluently while the rest don't. The three who do learn English are more successful, but the ones who don't learn English still manage because they get help from their friends who do know English. Furthermore, the ones who come from Latin America settle with other Latinos who don't speak English so that you get a community of people who don't speak English, but know a few phrases.

Now add that up to there being no requirement for learning English and you get a large scale of the population who can't communicate with each other. Instead of trying to make the newcomers learn English, public places display the language on signs and information leaflets in Spanish. In schools, children get bilingual education which makes them prefer to their native language over English which makes their English language skills a lot poorer. News programs are shown in Spanish.

All this helps further segregation of a country's population. It helps further a "Us vs Them" mentality instead of trying to create unity and a common national identity. The only reason America has managed to go so long without an official language is because you've always assimilated the people coming.

5 immigration myths debunked in just over 5 minutes
#27 - **** what you thought, founding fathers didn't set a national …  [+] (14 replies) 10/17/2016 on I want trumps cummies +22
#181 - finni (10/17/2016) [-]
Yeah, multilingual countries that have no official languages work out so great




I know Belgium has official languages, but not having an official language that every immigrant needs to learn creates a lot of problems and leads to segregation.
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#245 - srskate (10/18/2016) [-]
Yeah but America has been going on as is for about 200+ years and so far the no official language thing is working out.
#250 - finni (10/18/2016) [-]
That's because you've always demanded assimilation from your immigrants. Scandinavians, Italians, Germans, French, Asians have all had to learn English when they moved to America. But now, for the first time, people are moving into the country in way that makes assimilation an almost impossibility.

All immigrants to America have tended to live where people from the same country came from. Scandinavians, Italians etc. all settled and built communities together. In that way, the illegal Mexicans aren't that different. What's different though is that all other legal immigrants had to go through assimilation process, were English was something they had to learn.

If you have a population which is unable to communicate with each other because of difference in language then you got a real problem. Other countries which have been multilingual, if not out right multicultural, have all had serious problems. There's lots of examples of multicultural countries that went into disorder when the strong leaders of the countries disappeared. I would not be surprised if Belgium followed the path.

Just so you know, I am not an American and my native language is not English. I am not saying English should be the Official American language because of some sort of White American xenophobia but because I think that in order to have a functional society, the population needs some sort of unity. This is in no way to discriminate against anybody and it's not to say that people can't speak other languages in private conversations of course. It's only to further assimilation and integration of newcomers and to give them an American identity.

I think Pro English gives very good reasons for why English should and needs to be the official language: proenglish.org/why-english/
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#251 - srskate (10/18/2016) [-]
Knowing English isn't quite "enforced" that strongly though (See here for exemptions www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization/exceptions-accommodations ). Citizenship requires *some* grasp of English, but not really a working understanding. Throughout American history English is learned because it is beneficial for those in America to learn it, and children of immigrants inevitably end up learning English. Even now, I can tell you countless people I've met whose parents grasp on English slips from time to time, and some that don't speak English at all. Even today, there are areas of America when another language is spoken primarily (Puerto Rico; Koreatown, California; etc), and as you pointed out in American history there were even more cases of this. However, as I've said, this lasts a generation, first generation children of immigrants are almost exclusively bilingual, and end up identifying with American culture.

As for Illegal immigrants, its somewhat akin to evolution. Which immigrant will do better, the one that can speak English or the one that cannot.

I feel as if you and I agree on a lot of the larger points, like having a common language being beneficial, but we disagree on whether English should be the *official* language. To me, it seems fundamentally American that persons from all over be accepted regardless of their language.

Lastly, it is good to know you're not an American Xenophobe. I am a little ashamed to mention this, but knowing that did make me take your argument more seriously.
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#255 - finni (10/18/2016) [-]
The problem with your analogy to evolution is that in order for immigrants who don't learn English don't die out. What I mean is that in evolution, the ones who don't adapt to their environmental conditions die out while the ones who do survive. This is not an appropriate analogy to how it works for new comers.

Let's say ten people move to America from Latin America. Of those, three learn English fluently while the rest don't. The three who do learn English are more successful, but the ones who don't learn English still manage because they get help from their friends who do know English. Furthermore, the ones who come from Latin America settle with other Latinos who don't speak English so that you get a community of people who don't speak English, but know a few phrases.

Now add that up to there being no requirement for learning English and you get a large scale of the population who can't communicate with each other. Instead of trying to make the newcomers learn English, public places display the language on signs and information leaflets in Spanish. In schools, children get bilingual education which makes them prefer to their native language over English which makes their English language skills a lot poorer. News programs are shown in Spanish.

All this helps further segregation of a country's population. It helps further a "Us vs Them" mentality instead of trying to create unity and a common national identity. The only reason America has managed to go so long without an official language is because you've always assimilated the people coming.

5 immigration myths debunked in just over 5 minutes
#174 - anon (10/17/2016) [-]
No, you fucking idiot. We are an immigrant nation as much as we won't say no because you are a certain race. However, we can say no for a multitude of reasons that are not conclusive to race. Including the language that they speak. In America, the language is English period. There is no debate about this at all. What language do Americans speak? English ya cuck. Anyways, if you do not speak English, why the fuck would we let you into a country where the major language is English? Stop buying into this rhetoric that it is a bad thing that America has one major language you idiot.

Just putting this here as a rhetoric against retarded idiots who will say that what about people who speak mutiple languages? You fucking idiot, they can speak those other languages here, but they sure as hell better know English if you live in America. Am I expected to go to Korea and have them cater to the fact that I can't speak Korean. No, because its fucking stupid that I would.
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#246 - srskate (10/18/2016) [-]
Using cuck in an argument pretty much makes your wrong immediately.
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#175 - scooba (10/17/2016) [-]
You're right about one thing. There is no argument. On paper, the US has no official language. Several states have declared the official language, but on the national scale there is not one.
#35 - anon (10/17/2016) [-]
By this point, a national language is more for convenience than anything else, and even then we technically have iirc four 'official' languages: English, French, Spanish, and Mandarin Chinese.
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#29 - thickpeepee (10/17/2016) [-]
True. Trying to call America some English only place pretty much ignores everything the Founding Fathers set out to do way back when.
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#30 - thickpeepee (10/17/2016) [-]
Or at least a lot of it. Mainly the Freedom part of it.
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#45 - drpenguinz (10/17/2016) [-]
literally no one forces you to speak english only.
its convenient, but you can try communicating in japanese and see how far you come.
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#46 - thickpeepee (10/17/2016) [-]
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that saying "Don't speak spanish! dis America" is just odd to someone who believes in the American way. Teddy was not saying "Speak English because it's easier" he was saying "Don't speak anything else, because this is America."
#98 - anon (10/17/2016) [-]
No he's not, he's saying you need to learn to speak english. there were many who did not learn and actually refused to learn English in his (And this) time. He was speaking to them and those who called themselves something-Americans rather then just Americans.

Also the founding father very much wanted English to be the language spoken by all Americans. The constitution is written in English t,he declaration of independence was written in English ,the majority of colonists spoke English. It would likely have seemed silly to think some one would come to a majority English speaking country and refuse to learn English. An example of this is Benjamin Franklin thought it a problem that Pennsylvanian had so many Germans who didst' speak English, though most it and it proceeded to not really be a problem.
#20 - You have 5 maps and you can play any character, its just that …  [+] (1 reply) 10/17/2016 on Yeah!! +2
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#26 - shadowdragonaxe (10/17/2016) [-]
did not know that thank you for the information
#130 - >MD didn't secede  [+] (2 replies) 10/16/2016 on Dear Russia +1
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#142 - captcuteface (10/16/2016) [-]
Because it was a border state, thus divided.
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#153 - srskate (10/16/2016) [-]
But remained in the north
#120 - Google which side we were on in the war  [+] (4 replies) 10/16/2016 on Dear Russia +1
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#126 - captcuteface (10/16/2016) [-]
With EVERY state there were men fighting for both sides, approximately a third from Maryland fighting for the south. The only reason MD didn't secede is due to Hicks (pro slavery, anti secession) preventing it, just so D.C. wouldn't be 'stuck' in confederate land.
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#130 - srskate (10/16/2016) [-]
>MD didn't secede
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#142 - captcuteface (10/16/2016) [-]
Because it was a border state, thus divided.
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#153 - srskate (10/16/2016) [-]
But remained in the north