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#77 - when they are out there in the **** , soldiers onl…  [+] (1 new reply) 12/01/2013 on this post pissed me off a lot +1
User avatar #87 - zeref (12/01/2013) [-]
“War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.”
#197 - The lamp. wish to become an undying version of the attached 11/25/2013 on choose one item +1
#6 - id like to see how tough you are outside of that bigass mech 06/01/2013 on Wraithknight! 0
#14 - its just because its put together by americans, its easier for… 05/09/2013 on thought this was pretty cool +1
#287 - I think ill send them a letter with gps coordinates 04/26/2013 on shits handled 0
#509 - hes right ya know, besides we need to fix ourselves before we … 04/17/2013 on Hello +1
#178 - thoses text books tell us that japan committed an act of war a…  [+] (10 new replies) 04/14/2013 on 'Murica +5
#199 - ajohnston (04/14/2013) [-]
you bombed them within days of each other
User avatar #192 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
What they don't tell you is how batshit insane the japanese were at that time. They were throwing themselves and their children off cliffs if there was even a possibility of Americans landing near them, and they were literally going to keep fighting till every person in Japan was annihilated. If the U.S. hadn't dropped those bombs, the casualties would have been astronomical.
User avatar #204 - kranske (04/14/2013) [-]
so true, i recall reading somewhere that it was estimated casulaties to be in the 250,000 for allied forces nd 3 to 4 times that for japanese forces
User avatar #193 - roflsaucer (04/14/2013) [-]
Letters of/from Iwo Jima

That's all I have to say about that.
User avatar #194 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
God I read that in forest gump's voice XD

I've never seen it unfortunately
User avatar #195 - roflsaucer (04/14/2013) [-]
If you did, you'd know that, in fact, the japanese were NOT batshit crazy. They were actually (who'da thunk it?) pretty normal people.
User avatar #196 - roflsaucer (04/14/2013) [-]
Let me change that.
MOST* japanese were not batshit crazy.
User avatar #197 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
mn, you can't really base that on a movie. Yea the movie is based on non-fiction books (looked it up) but there are just too many firsthand accounts and plenty of credible sources detailing the insane fanaticism the japanese people had back then. If the kamikaze pilots and banzai charges aren't enough to persuade someone that there was something seriously wrong with their thinking, then the memoirs of those who witnessed mass suicides would do the trick.
User avatar #198 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
Plus, things tend to be elaborated in movies for entertainment value. They're horrible sources unless they're documentaries.
#208 - anonymous (04/14/2013) [-]
Let's just admit people that were in charge didn't know what they were getting themselves into during those times.
#176 - When you attack a nation who is at peace with zero warning you…  [+] (35 new replies) 04/14/2013 on 'Murica +4
#206 - roxasroxs (04/14/2013) [-]
This is receiving what you give 10 fold
User avatar #210 - teevee (04/14/2013) [-]
i have no words
#203 - itsbendingtime (04/14/2013) [-]
>implying America didn't bait Japan into attacking because they wanted to get in on WW2
User avatar #211 - namdelliks (04/14/2013) [-]
Er.. we didn't? Japan was running around taking over countries in the pacific, so we stopped supplying them oil and steel so they couldn't make anymore machines of war. Japan didn't like it so they blew up our naval base in 1941.
User avatar #219 - exarzero (04/14/2013) [-]
So if someone stops offering to sell you something, that is a good excuse to attack them?
User avatar #220 - namdelliks (04/14/2013) [-]
You'd have to ask japan..
User avatar #221 - exarzero (04/14/2013) [-]
They still learn in their history text books that they build Japan and helped it throughout WW2. Like building hospitals for them etc... But the texts fail to mention the twenty million they killed there. So odd.

They would think we started it. :(
User avatar #222 - namdelliks (04/14/2013) [-]
They being America? millions killed where? Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I am confus
User avatar #224 - exarzero (04/14/2013) [-]
I am sorry about that, I failed to say China. My mistake.
#212 - itsbendingtime (04/14/2013) [-]
But you didn't have any problems selling weapons and oil to Germany?
User avatar #213 - namdelliks (04/14/2013) [-]
We weren't the only ones. The war in Europe was just business as usual for the Allies and the Nazis. That being said we didn't give them nearly enough or they wouldn't have been invading Egypt, the middle east, and the USSR looking for oil if they were getting plenty from the allies. By 1944 Nazi Germany had run dry on oil.
#215 - itsbendingtime (04/14/2013) [-]
Because you stopped selling it to them.
(This is also the reason that "US saved the UKs ass" is bullshit, because the threat of an invasion of the British Isles was ended when the RAF established air superiority in the battle of Britain.
Lend Lease did not begin until well after this event, and up until that point the US was selling oil and weapons to Germany. (In fact the German bombers relied on a patented additive to their fuel which was only produced by a US oil company. The bombing of London was literally impossible without American supplies to Germany, thanks for that.)

Hell, just watch this:
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=k3Ya5qiiW6k#t=5274s

The whole video is an eye opener, but the part I linked to is the bit that pertains to this conversation.
User avatar #216 - namdelliks (04/14/2013) [-]
I'm not trying to argue that we're the good guys in this situation. Since history is written by the victor. Our only physical involvement in Europe was from D-day to the end.
User avatar #223 - tls (04/14/2013) [-]
"Our only physical involvement in Europe was from D-day to the end." What in the fuck am I reading and what the fuck are you smoking? June 6th, 1944 was for god damned sure not our earliest physical involvement.

During the Battle of Britain they had Eagle Squadrons, American volunteers flying with the RAF. Sure there weren't many of them, and it wasn't official, but the fact is we were "physically" involved there.

Have you ever fucking heard of Operation Torch? Operation Husky? Anzio? The 8th fucking AIR FORCE?? (One of the largest airborne juggernauts of the war?) The Red Tails? The 56th Fighter Group with the infamous "Gabby" Gabreski? The Battle of Monte Cassino? Operation Diadem? The Battle of Berlin (air-forces only)? For fucks sake man, the U.S. was all over Europe well before Operation Overlord and D-Day.
User avatar #201 - herbolifee (04/14/2013) [-]
In the end, it's the governments that are fighting, and the civilians (who have NOTHING to do with it) are the ones dying over it.

That nuke on Japan did nothing other than mass killing an entire population. You say: "When you attack a nation". Those civilians, the ones brutally vaporized, never did such a thing. But I guess american brains are too infantile to comprehend this...
User avatar #200 - herecomesjohnny (04/14/2013) [-]
at least the japs aimed for american military structures, aka battleships. Bombing a city of civilians however, can be qualified as a crime against humanity
User avatar #225 - tls (04/14/2013) [-]
Well I guess the Brits are joining us the the reverse Nuremberg Trials then, eh?

Ever heard of an air raid on a place called Dresden? I suggest you read on it.
User avatar #226 - herecomesjohnny (04/14/2013) [-]
i don't get the point though? is it that ''we're not the only ones''?

hell if you want to go that way brits have done far worse than dresden in matters of crimes against civilians
User avatar #209 - ooants (04/14/2013) [-]
The bombs were dropped directly on the city because the Japanese had moved most of their military facilities into the city and disguised them as civilian buildings to lower the accuracy of American bombs. No one would bomb a city full of civilians for no reason. Except the Nazis.
#214 - anonymous (04/14/2013) [-]
"No one would bomb a city full of civilians for no reason"-america

"No one would bomb a city full of civilians"-everyone else
#177 - anonymous (04/14/2013) [-]
>Implying America even warned Japan about the nuke

What the fuck are those American text books telling you children?
#190 - anonymous (04/14/2013) [-]
I take back what I said, i'm a faggot
#185 - anonymous (04/14/2013) [-]
It was a bit late for warnings at that point.
User avatar #183 - AlexPaincakes (04/14/2013) [-]
He is right you know.
User avatar #178 - soulstrike (04/14/2013) [-]
thoses text books tell us that japan committed an act of war against a nation that was at peace, and the US attacked a hostile nation that was already at war, after giving multiple opportunities to surrender, and japan rrefused, even after the first bomb the refused to surrender
#199 - ajohnston (04/14/2013) [-]
you bombed them within days of each other
User avatar #192 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
What they don't tell you is how batshit insane the japanese were at that time. They were throwing themselves and their children off cliffs if there was even a possibility of Americans landing near them, and they were literally going to keep fighting till every person in Japan was annihilated. If the U.S. hadn't dropped those bombs, the casualties would have been astronomical.
User avatar #204 - kranske (04/14/2013) [-]
so true, i recall reading somewhere that it was estimated casulaties to be in the 250,000 for allied forces nd 3 to 4 times that for japanese forces
User avatar #193 - roflsaucer (04/14/2013) [-]
Letters of/from Iwo Jima

That's all I have to say about that.
User avatar #194 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
God I read that in forest gump's voice XD

I've never seen it unfortunately
User avatar #195 - roflsaucer (04/14/2013) [-]
If you did, you'd know that, in fact, the japanese were NOT batshit crazy. They were actually (who'da thunk it?) pretty normal people.
User avatar #196 - roflsaucer (04/14/2013) [-]
Let me change that.
MOST* japanese were not batshit crazy.
User avatar #197 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
mn, you can't really base that on a movie. Yea the movie is based on non-fiction books (looked it up) but there are just too many firsthand accounts and plenty of credible sources detailing the insane fanaticism the japanese people had back then. If the kamikaze pilots and banzai charges aren't enough to persuade someone that there was something seriously wrong with their thinking, then the memoirs of those who witnessed mass suicides would do the trick.
User avatar #198 - doombunni (04/14/2013) [-]
Plus, things tend to be elaborated in movies for entertainment value. They're horrible sources unless they're documentaries.
#208 - anonymous (04/14/2013) [-]
Let's just admit people that were in charge didn't know what they were getting themselves into during those times.
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