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#2362027 - ??? 11/20/2016 on FJ Backroom 0
#498569 - really? same  [+] (2 replies) 11/19/2016 on Hating - file complaints,... +1
#498570 - hxhmaniac (11/19/2016) [-]
#498571 - shibe (11/19/2016) [-]
#77 - i wish i could meet him tbh  [+] (3 replies) 11/18/2016 on Way too accurate honestly +1
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#78 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Oh god no. I could never. His speech impediment just grinds on me. It would hurt even more in person. I love the guy, but I'd not want to make him feel awkward or anything.
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#81 - bgr (11/18/2016) [-]
Lol hes like that mostly in front of a camera mostly
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#80 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
he probably feels awkward all the time, the guy clearly used to deal with some sort of social anxiety
#73 - oh yeah that ********, i don't think follows from intersection…  [+] (5 replies) 11/18/2016 on Way too accurate honestly +1
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#74 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Fucking Zizek, man. Legend.
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#77 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
i wish i could meet him tbh
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#78 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Oh god no. I could never. His speech impediment just grinds on me. It would hurt even more in person. I love the guy, but I'd not want to make him feel awkward or anything.
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#81 - bgr (11/18/2016) [-]
Lol hes like that mostly in front of a camera mostly
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#80 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
he probably feels awkward all the time, the guy clearly used to deal with some sort of social anxiety
#70 - "whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it co…  [+] (7 replies) 11/18/2016 on Way too accurate honestly 0
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#72 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Legally I would argue that I overstated a little bit because the justice system does still favour women over men (especially in cases involving divorce and child custody) however that could still be considered societal for the most part.

Societal change is fine to campaign for, but if you think modern feminism isn't shutting down people's freedoms then you are in for a shock:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/autumnwatch-presenter-sidelined-for-being-too-white-and-middle-c/
www.independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-vdeo-twitter-necss-event-feminism-a6841161.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by-mps-and-job-applicants-over-training-placement/

These are but a few of the cases of this modern wave of identity politics/social marxism that has led to people's freedoms coming under fire because they think differently or just are different. It is fundamentally unfair and these are the sorts of things that modern feminism is doing to society, and in so doing it is making the very subject of diversity such a politically charged issue that it makes people fearful to even broach the subject. Rather than encouraging discussion these sorts of actions enforce silence, and rather than nurturing change they are forcing it.

This is where the alt-right gets their ammunition from. From the real-world stories of people whose lives have become ruined by the actions of modern feminists, and however many there may be who are actually working for the ideals you espouse they will always be tainted by these actions in the minds they seek to change. Until modern feminism can cull the ideological bigots from their movement, all they'll be doing is creating more ideological bigots in return, and that's no good for anyone.
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#73 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
oh yeah that bullshit, i don't think follows from intersectional feminism, that's just some awful political correctness which i think leads to more problems than it tries to fix, it's actually quite unpopular on the radical left and as far as i know, radical feminists

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNbWGaaxWM here's actually a little bit of easy critical theory on it zizek is the meme of the modern left
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#74 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Fucking Zizek, man. Legend.
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#77 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
i wish i could meet him tbh
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#78 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Oh god no. I could never. His speech impediment just grinds on me. It would hurt even more in person. I love the guy, but I'd not want to make him feel awkward or anything.
User avatar
#81 - bgr (11/18/2016) [-]
Lol hes like that mostly in front of a camera mostly
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#80 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
he probably feels awkward all the time, the guy clearly used to deal with some sort of social anxiety
#61 - "feminist rhetoric about being made to hire a proportiona…  [+] (9 replies) 11/18/2016 on Way too accurate honestly 0
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#69 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
That is a noble goal, but it is not the end results of the methods practiced by third wave or Intersectional feminism, because they seek change at the systematic level, whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it could possibly be (for the most part). The sweeping change they need to affect is in society itself, and how these things are perceived, which makes the approach of third wave and intersectional feminism thoroughly ineffective because they are shutting down freedoms in a misguided attempt to punish those with 'privilege'.

If this was simply a social thing then nobody would be all that concerned. However this has become a part of academia, a part of the law through political correctness and hate crimes, etc. To punish people for thinking and saying the sorts of things that dissent from the message.

First wave feminism may have been about equality of opportunity. Hell, maybe second wave was too. But by the time third wave came along the opportunity was already equal, and instead these two new takes on the movement are upset that even though the opportunities are equal, the outcomes are not.
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#70 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
"whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it could possibly be"

now that's a big of a bold claim, i understand that we're finally fair legally, we're still quite a long way for being pretty fair for both sexes socially

there is never supposed to ever be some shutdown of freedom, where the fuck did you get your understanding of modern feminism from? tumblr shouldn't count because i don't think any of them have ever actually read anything from someone like franz fanon
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#72 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Legally I would argue that I overstated a little bit because the justice system does still favour women over men (especially in cases involving divorce and child custody) however that could still be considered societal for the most part.

Societal change is fine to campaign for, but if you think modern feminism isn't shutting down people's freedoms then you are in for a shock:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/autumnwatch-presenter-sidelined-for-being-too-white-and-middle-c/
www.independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-vdeo-twitter-necss-event-feminism-a6841161.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by-mps-and-job-applicants-over-training-placement/

These are but a few of the cases of this modern wave of identity politics/social marxism that has led to people's freedoms coming under fire because they think differently or just are different. It is fundamentally unfair and these are the sorts of things that modern feminism is doing to society, and in so doing it is making the very subject of diversity such a politically charged issue that it makes people fearful to even broach the subject. Rather than encouraging discussion these sorts of actions enforce silence, and rather than nurturing change they are forcing it.

This is where the alt-right gets their ammunition from. From the real-world stories of people whose lives have become ruined by the actions of modern feminists, and however many there may be who are actually working for the ideals you espouse they will always be tainted by these actions in the minds they seek to change. Until modern feminism can cull the ideological bigots from their movement, all they'll be doing is creating more ideological bigots in return, and that's no good for anyone.
User avatar
#73 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
oh yeah that bullshit, i don't think follows from intersectional feminism, that's just some awful political correctness which i think leads to more problems than it tries to fix, it's actually quite unpopular on the radical left and as far as i know, radical feminists

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNbWGaaxWM here's actually a little bit of easy critical theory on it zizek is the meme of the modern left
User avatar
#74 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Fucking Zizek, man. Legend.
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#77 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
i wish i could meet him tbh
User avatar
#78 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Oh god no. I could never. His speech impediment just grinds on me. It would hurt even more in person. I love the guy, but I'd not want to make him feel awkward or anything.
User avatar
#81 - bgr (11/18/2016) [-]
Lol hes like that mostly in front of a camera mostly
User avatar
#80 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
he probably feels awkward all the time, the guy clearly used to deal with some sort of social anxiety
#50 - oh yeah, more radical feminism is definitely gonna end up like…  [+] (11 replies) 11/17/2016 on Way too accurate honestly 0
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#53 - questionableferret (11/17/2016) [-]
True, but there is also the fact that a truly liberal society focusses on equality of opportunity, rather than equality of outcome, which makes much of the 3rd Wave/Intersectional feminist rhetoric about being made to hire a proportionally representative workforce fundamentally opposed to Liberalism.

Liberalism would defend these people's rights to be treated equally in terms of what they are, but what they then go on to identify as after the fact is not protected under the law, because liberalism doesn't set quotas. A liberal society is concerned only with who a person is, not what a person is, and so as long as the reason someone doesn't get a job is not because of their gender, but rather because of how their approach to it is seen as otherwise unhealthy to the functions of the company, then the company is in the right.

Basically, Intersectional Feminism defines equality as when everyone is catered to individually, whereas Liberalism defines equality as when nobody is catered to differently (barring those who physically require it such as men/women and catering to the disabled.) And I think that right there is where modern feminism and Liberalism split, as they approach the problem of equality with fundamentally opposed definitions of the ideal.
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#61 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
"feminist rhetoric about being made to hire a proportionally representative workforce fundamentally opposed to Liberalism."

yeah, but i may have missed where academic feminism took the turn for some odd faux-feminism, besides feminism is literally about equality of opportunity, it's about removing certain biases towards genders that may hold them back, or removing any sort of ideas in culture like the whole women are smarter or that man are the ones who should work and that sorta of stuff, it's supposed to remove that for all genders so that there is equal opportunity
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#69 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
That is a noble goal, but it is not the end results of the methods practiced by third wave or Intersectional feminism, because they seek change at the systematic level, whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it could possibly be (for the most part). The sweeping change they need to affect is in society itself, and how these things are perceived, which makes the approach of third wave and intersectional feminism thoroughly ineffective because they are shutting down freedoms in a misguided attempt to punish those with 'privilege'.

If this was simply a social thing then nobody would be all that concerned. However this has become a part of academia, a part of the law through political correctness and hate crimes, etc. To punish people for thinking and saying the sorts of things that dissent from the message.

First wave feminism may have been about equality of opportunity. Hell, maybe second wave was too. But by the time third wave came along the opportunity was already equal, and instead these two new takes on the movement are upset that even though the opportunities are equal, the outcomes are not.
User avatar
#70 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
"whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it could possibly be"

now that's a big of a bold claim, i understand that we're finally fair legally, we're still quite a long way for being pretty fair for both sexes socially

there is never supposed to ever be some shutdown of freedom, where the fuck did you get your understanding of modern feminism from? tumblr shouldn't count because i don't think any of them have ever actually read anything from someone like franz fanon
User avatar
#72 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Legally I would argue that I overstated a little bit because the justice system does still favour women over men (especially in cases involving divorce and child custody) however that could still be considered societal for the most part.

Societal change is fine to campaign for, but if you think modern feminism isn't shutting down people's freedoms then you are in for a shock:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/autumnwatch-presenter-sidelined-for-being-too-white-and-middle-c/
www.independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-vdeo-twitter-necss-event-feminism-a6841161.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by-mps-and-job-applicants-over-training-placement/

These are but a few of the cases of this modern wave of identity politics/social marxism that has led to people's freedoms coming under fire because they think differently or just are different. It is fundamentally unfair and these are the sorts of things that modern feminism is doing to society, and in so doing it is making the very subject of diversity such a politically charged issue that it makes people fearful to even broach the subject. Rather than encouraging discussion these sorts of actions enforce silence, and rather than nurturing change they are forcing it.

This is where the alt-right gets their ammunition from. From the real-world stories of people whose lives have become ruined by the actions of modern feminists, and however many there may be who are actually working for the ideals you espouse they will always be tainted by these actions in the minds they seek to change. Until modern feminism can cull the ideological bigots from their movement, all they'll be doing is creating more ideological bigots in return, and that's no good for anyone.
User avatar
#73 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
oh yeah that bullshit, i don't think follows from intersectional feminism, that's just some awful political correctness which i think leads to more problems than it tries to fix, it's actually quite unpopular on the radical left and as far as i know, radical feminists

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNbWGaaxWM here's actually a little bit of easy critical theory on it zizek is the meme of the modern left
User avatar
#74 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Fucking Zizek, man. Legend.
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#77 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
i wish i could meet him tbh
User avatar
#78 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Oh god no. I could never. His speech impediment just grinds on me. It would hurt even more in person. I love the guy, but I'd not want to make him feel awkward or anything.
User avatar
#81 - bgr (11/18/2016) [-]
Lol hes like that mostly in front of a camera mostly
User avatar
#80 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
he probably feels awkward all the time, the guy clearly used to deal with some sort of social anxiety
#46 - you're sorta right, but the bourgeoisie aren't just the rich o…  [+] (13 replies) 11/17/2016 on Way too accurate honestly +1
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#49 - questionableferret (11/17/2016) [-]
I'm sure you could substitute a few of the words in your comment with things like Bourgeoisie to Patriarchy and get an accurate description of how an Intersectional Feminist would react to my comment.

I'll defer to you on this subject but I'm just trying to highlight that their ideologies are as far removed from liberalism as Marxism are.
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#50 - shibe (11/17/2016) [-]
oh yeah, more radical feminism is definitely gonna end up likely being more marxist, that's understandable

feminism is still compatible with liberalism though, even some of the more radical forms of feminism, like it's possible to have a liberal society and not have genders (in their traditional sense i guess i should clarify)
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#53 - questionableferret (11/17/2016) [-]
True, but there is also the fact that a truly liberal society focusses on equality of opportunity, rather than equality of outcome, which makes much of the 3rd Wave/Intersectional feminist rhetoric about being made to hire a proportionally representative workforce fundamentally opposed to Liberalism.

Liberalism would defend these people's rights to be treated equally in terms of what they are, but what they then go on to identify as after the fact is not protected under the law, because liberalism doesn't set quotas. A liberal society is concerned only with who a person is, not what a person is, and so as long as the reason someone doesn't get a job is not because of their gender, but rather because of how their approach to it is seen as otherwise unhealthy to the functions of the company, then the company is in the right.

Basically, Intersectional Feminism defines equality as when everyone is catered to individually, whereas Liberalism defines equality as when nobody is catered to differently (barring those who physically require it such as men/women and catering to the disabled.) And I think that right there is where modern feminism and Liberalism split, as they approach the problem of equality with fundamentally opposed definitions of the ideal.
User avatar
#61 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
"feminist rhetoric about being made to hire a proportionally representative workforce fundamentally opposed to Liberalism."

yeah, but i may have missed where academic feminism took the turn for some odd faux-feminism, besides feminism is literally about equality of opportunity, it's about removing certain biases towards genders that may hold them back, or removing any sort of ideas in culture like the whole women are smarter or that man are the ones who should work and that sorta of stuff, it's supposed to remove that for all genders so that there is equal opportunity
User avatar
#69 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
That is a noble goal, but it is not the end results of the methods practiced by third wave or Intersectional feminism, because they seek change at the systematic level, whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it could possibly be (for the most part). The sweeping change they need to affect is in society itself, and how these things are perceived, which makes the approach of third wave and intersectional feminism thoroughly ineffective because they are shutting down freedoms in a misguided attempt to punish those with 'privilege'.

If this was simply a social thing then nobody would be all that concerned. However this has become a part of academia, a part of the law through political correctness and hate crimes, etc. To punish people for thinking and saying the sorts of things that dissent from the message.

First wave feminism may have been about equality of opportunity. Hell, maybe second wave was too. But by the time third wave came along the opportunity was already equal, and instead these two new takes on the movement are upset that even though the opportunities are equal, the outcomes are not.
User avatar
#70 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
"whereas the systematic level is already as fair as it could possibly be"

now that's a big of a bold claim, i understand that we're finally fair legally, we're still quite a long way for being pretty fair for both sexes socially

there is never supposed to ever be some shutdown of freedom, where the fuck did you get your understanding of modern feminism from? tumblr shouldn't count because i don't think any of them have ever actually read anything from someone like franz fanon
User avatar
#72 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Legally I would argue that I overstated a little bit because the justice system does still favour women over men (especially in cases involving divorce and child custody) however that could still be considered societal for the most part.

Societal change is fine to campaign for, but if you think modern feminism isn't shutting down people's freedoms then you are in for a shock:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/autumnwatch-presenter-sidelined-for-being-too-white-and-middle-c/
www.independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-vdeo-twitter-necss-event-feminism-a6841161.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by-mps-and-job-applicants-over-training-placement/

These are but a few of the cases of this modern wave of identity politics/social marxism that has led to people's freedoms coming under fire because they think differently or just are different. It is fundamentally unfair and these are the sorts of things that modern feminism is doing to society, and in so doing it is making the very subject of diversity such a politically charged issue that it makes people fearful to even broach the subject. Rather than encouraging discussion these sorts of actions enforce silence, and rather than nurturing change they are forcing it.

This is where the alt-right gets their ammunition from. From the real-world stories of people whose lives have become ruined by the actions of modern feminists, and however many there may be who are actually working for the ideals you espouse they will always be tainted by these actions in the minds they seek to change. Until modern feminism can cull the ideological bigots from their movement, all they'll be doing is creating more ideological bigots in return, and that's no good for anyone.
User avatar
#73 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
oh yeah that bullshit, i don't think follows from intersectional feminism, that's just some awful political correctness which i think leads to more problems than it tries to fix, it's actually quite unpopular on the radical left and as far as i know, radical feminists

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNbWGaaxWM here's actually a little bit of easy critical theory on it zizek is the meme of the modern left
User avatar
#74 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Fucking Zizek, man. Legend.
User avatar
#77 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
i wish i could meet him tbh
User avatar
#78 - questionableferret (11/18/2016) [-]
Oh god no. I could never. His speech impediment just grinds on me. It would hurt even more in person. I love the guy, but I'd not want to make him feel awkward or anything.
User avatar
#81 - bgr (11/18/2016) [-]
Lol hes like that mostly in front of a camera mostly
User avatar
#80 - shibe (11/18/2016) [-]
he probably feels awkward all the time, the guy clearly used to deal with some sort of social anxiety