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#202 - noblexfenrir (05/06/2014) [-]
Noone is saying it's caused by carbon, it's furthered by it. Which is what we expect to see based on the properties of GHG's and it this instance is caused by humans due to our increase in usage.
I won't even get into the journal and group by which that graph was published, let's take in on face value instead of on their merits. 1 data point, especially one drawn from a very sensitive location/medium.
What we've seen over the past century, shown through the most common Lean studies and Huber report, that yes the sun does affect the climate. But because of accumulation of GHG's and other environmental factors out of our control (Make up a severely lower percentage.) the effect of the sun makes up only 30-40% of increase in climate change models, while these other factors pick up the slack.
This isn't something we have to constantly readdress, we know how these variables work with one another and how they will react under specific conditions. To say AGW is false is idiotic because the data clearly shows a trend towards conserving more and more heat in relation to those hotter periods, and the alarmists are idiots because we don't honestly expect the increase to ever reach high end of the spectrum of around 3.5-5%, the earth is very well adapted to the periods. However, it's these very processes that are hurting it more, I'm ofcourse talking about oceans taking the primary hit of these hot periods.
but regardless, you need a different chart. I'm sure there's a reputable one with the same information. That one however is from a low funded independent group who posted it to a medical journal...and a horrible one at that.