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#13 - Just ask this. "How many genders are there, and how do yo… 03/28/2015 on has science gone too far? 0
#338 - Poe's law man. It's impossible to tell at this point. 03/27/2015 on legbeards 0
#122 - Best I can find on such short notice. This applies t… 03/25/2015 on legbeards +3
#118 - Everything you are giving me is supporting what I first said. 03/25/2015 on legbeards +3
#117 - My mistake. I read "not done as a baby" as "not…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/25/2015 on legbeards +4
User avatar #119 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
I did not know that. Thats actually really interesting. I believe you, but can you show me a something about Infant surgery trauma? We're pretty much saying the same thing. I do agree that they're both useless. I'm trying to say that it may be religious, but most FGM just causes pain, where as most MGM goes smoothly and does not.

TL;DR we agree, both are really shitty
#122 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/HMS_OTB_Winter11_Vol17_No1.pdf

Best I can find on such short notice. This applies to all infant surgery. Looks like Penn & Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it. If you want to watch it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmt1uPzlVaM
#112 - "This thing that is never done is more traumatizing that …  [+] (4 new replies) 03/25/2015 on legbeards +4
User avatar #113 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
>Never done
>26 of 43 African Countries
>Done in developmental years when brain is mostly formed
#117 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
My mistake. I read "not done as a baby" as "not done." So just over half of African countries. As for your claim that it's more damaging because the brain is mostly formed, have you ever heard of infant surgery trauma? It's when an infant's brain development is permanently altered because of surgery done. It can lead to the brain shutting down, or the infant developing a form of PTSD.

Again, I'm saying that it is largely useless surgery and neither should be done. Not that one is worse than the other, you keep trying to make this an issue of "it's worse for girls, so we should ignore that it happens to boys."
User avatar #119 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
I did not know that. Thats actually really interesting. I believe you, but can you show me a something about Infant surgery trauma? We're pretty much saying the same thing. I do agree that they're both useless. I'm trying to say that it may be religious, but most FGM just causes pain, where as most MGM goes smoothly and does not.

TL;DR we agree, both are really shitty
#122 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/HMS_OTB_Winter11_Vol17_No1.pdf

Best I can find on such short notice. This applies to all infant surgery. Looks like Penn & Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it. If you want to watch it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmt1uPzlVaM
#108 - Claims made without a source, here's my source to refute it. …  [+] (9 new replies) 03/25/2015 on legbeards +5
User avatar #111 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
OR this which goes even more in depth of the health risks that most women face from FGM.
User avatar #110 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
#118 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
Everything you are giving me is supporting what I first said.
User avatar #109 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
It also states that 115 deaths are from SIDS, and 117 are from circumcision. That is essentially equal when you look on the scale of amount of babies being born. Also I'm talking about female circumcision. which is not done as a baby, and therefore is much more traumatizing.

www.path.org/files/FGM-The-Facts.htm
#112 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
"This thing that is never done is more traumatizing that this other thing that is the same that is done all the time."

You double-think Orwellian dip-shit.
User avatar #113 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
>Never done
>26 of 43 African Countries
>Done in developmental years when brain is mostly formed
#117 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
My mistake. I read "not done as a baby" as "not done." So just over half of African countries. As for your claim that it's more damaging because the brain is mostly formed, have you ever heard of infant surgery trauma? It's when an infant's brain development is permanently altered because of surgery done. It can lead to the brain shutting down, or the infant developing a form of PTSD.

Again, I'm saying that it is largely useless surgery and neither should be done. Not that one is worse than the other, you keep trying to make this an issue of "it's worse for girls, so we should ignore that it happens to boys."
User avatar #119 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
I did not know that. Thats actually really interesting. I believe you, but can you show me a something about Infant surgery trauma? We're pretty much saying the same thing. I do agree that they're both useless. I'm trying to say that it may be religious, but most FGM just causes pain, where as most MGM goes smoothly and does not.

TL;DR we agree, both are really shitty
#122 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/HMS_OTB_Winter11_Vol17_No1.pdf

Best I can find on such short notice. This applies to all infant surgery. Looks like Penn & Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it. If you want to watch it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmt1uPzlVaM
#104 - More boys die from complications related to MGM than to SIDS. …  [+] (11 new replies) 03/25/2015 on legbeards +5
User avatar #106 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
>#56
#108 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
Claims made without a source, here's my source to refute it.

www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html

"deaths due directly or indirectly to circumcision occur ... one out of every 77 male neonatal deaths. This compares with 44 neonatal deaths from suffocation, 8 in automobile accidents and 115 from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome"
User avatar #111 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
OR this which goes even more in depth of the health risks that most women face from FGM.
User avatar #110 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
#118 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
Everything you are giving me is supporting what I first said.
User avatar #109 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
It also states that 115 deaths are from SIDS, and 117 are from circumcision. That is essentially equal when you look on the scale of amount of babies being born. Also I'm talking about female circumcision. which is not done as a baby, and therefore is much more traumatizing.

www.path.org/files/FGM-The-Facts.htm
#112 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
"This thing that is never done is more traumatizing that this other thing that is the same that is done all the time."

You double-think Orwellian dip-shit.
User avatar #113 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
>Never done
>26 of 43 African Countries
>Done in developmental years when brain is mostly formed
#117 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
My mistake. I read "not done as a baby" as "not done." So just over half of African countries. As for your claim that it's more damaging because the brain is mostly formed, have you ever heard of infant surgery trauma? It's when an infant's brain development is permanently altered because of surgery done. It can lead to the brain shutting down, or the infant developing a form of PTSD.

Again, I'm saying that it is largely useless surgery and neither should be done. Not that one is worse than the other, you keep trying to make this an issue of "it's worse for girls, so we should ignore that it happens to boys."
User avatar #119 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
I did not know that. Thats actually really interesting. I believe you, but can you show me a something about Infant surgery trauma? We're pretty much saying the same thing. I do agree that they're both useless. I'm trying to say that it may be religious, but most FGM just causes pain, where as most MGM goes smoothly and does not.

TL;DR we agree, both are really shitty
#122 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/HMS_OTB_Winter11_Vol17_No1.pdf

Best I can find on such short notice. This applies to all infant surgery. Looks like Penn & Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it. If you want to watch it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmt1uPzlVaM
#101 - Female genital mutilation is done for the same reasons as male…  [+] (13 new replies) 03/25/2015 on legbeards +4
User avatar #103 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
FGM is often done in less safe practices than MGM
#104 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
More boys die from complications related to MGM than to SIDS.

I'm arguing that they are both bad and shouldn't be done.

And I just saw your tl;dr. Calling it a sex crime is just retarded.
User avatar #106 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
>#56
#108 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
Claims made without a source, here's my source to refute it.

www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html

"deaths due directly or indirectly to circumcision occur ... one out of every 77 male neonatal deaths. This compares with 44 neonatal deaths from suffocation, 8 in automobile accidents and 115 from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome"
User avatar #111 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
OR this which goes even more in depth of the health risks that most women face from FGM.
User avatar #110 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
#118 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
Everything you are giving me is supporting what I first said.
User avatar #109 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
It also states that 115 deaths are from SIDS, and 117 are from circumcision. That is essentially equal when you look on the scale of amount of babies being born. Also I'm talking about female circumcision. which is not done as a baby, and therefore is much more traumatizing.

www.path.org/files/FGM-The-Facts.htm
#112 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
"This thing that is never done is more traumatizing that this other thing that is the same that is done all the time."

You double-think Orwellian dip-shit.
User avatar #113 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
>Never done
>26 of 43 African Countries
>Done in developmental years when brain is mostly formed
#117 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
My mistake. I read "not done as a baby" as "not done." So just over half of African countries. As for your claim that it's more damaging because the brain is mostly formed, have you ever heard of infant surgery trauma? It's when an infant's brain development is permanently altered because of surgery done. It can lead to the brain shutting down, or the infant developing a form of PTSD.

Again, I'm saying that it is largely useless surgery and neither should be done. Not that one is worse than the other, you keep trying to make this an issue of "it's worse for girls, so we should ignore that it happens to boys."
User avatar #119 - thepollock (03/25/2015) [-]
I did not know that. Thats actually really interesting. I believe you, but can you show me a something about Infant surgery trauma? We're pretty much saying the same thing. I do agree that they're both useless. I'm trying to say that it may be religious, but most FGM just causes pain, where as most MGM goes smoothly and does not.

TL;DR we agree, both are really shitty
#122 - shadowvision (03/25/2015) [-]
hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/HMS_OTB_Winter11_Vol17_No1.pdf

Best I can find on such short notice. This applies to all infant surgery. Looks like Penn & Teller did a Bullshit! episode on it. If you want to watch it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmt1uPzlVaM
#100 - Check out the sexist who only wants rights for one gender. …  [+] (2 new replies) 03/25/2015 on legbeards +2
#171 - nimba (03/25/2015) [-]
#338 - shadowvision (03/27/2015) [-]
Poe's law man. It's impossible to tell at this point.

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