so much for freedom of religion...

"Religion is a CHOICE. If you choose to live with the risk of being discriminated against because lots of people from your own religious group are being huge dicks"
Therefor it is ok to say all christians are assholes who only wishes to see homosexuals, and people they don't like, burn in hell for eternity, while breaking their own bible-rules and thinking they are forgiven for their constant sins because they ask god if it is ok.

i dont know about that. if you enjoy a religion and want to practice it (for whatever reason) it's really unfair to be discriminated against because of the actions of people who practice the same religion but you are otherwise unassociated with.

as a comparison, think of christianity and the kkk.

Except the majority of islamists believe in the jihad which preaches exactly that

But the majority of muslims aren't islamists

No one has said anything about muslims in this entire post

OP talked about Islam, which is the name of the muslim religion and shadowhorn also talked about an "entire fucking religion", which refers to all muslims.

I wrote that in a edge boner, meant extremists and ISIL, other terrorist organizations. I understand why you disagree.

thanks m8

Trump is way smarter than you, bitch.

Yes, the man who wants to deport 11 million people living in the us is smarter than me.

Well, he was talking to the other guy. But deporting people who shouldn't be here is something smart countries do.

So just deport 11 million people, instead of I don't know, making them full members of society?

We tried that. They said fuck you and marched in without going through the process. It's a slap to the face of people who actually go through the process it immigrate legally.

So deporting 11 million people is your answer. Which could cost upwards of over 600 billion dollars, much more than Bernie Sanders projects would cost combined, something many trump supporters call "un-affordable".

So what, we should allow criminals to continue to commit their crimes? What, should we just fire all the cops too, to save money?

Its the simple fact that the large majority of these undocumented immigrants are actually functioning members of society, and deporting them will only be hurting us.

And many murderers are functioning members of society before and after they commit their crime, if they are not caught.
It doesn't matter who they are or what they are currently doing, they are criminals and need to be dealt with as such.

You are comparing people who illegally moved into our nation (for reasons we don't even know, it could range from crimes to escaping crime) to people who murder. I seem to remember a class in highschool, the most schools make you take, it was called civics, and it looked into the moral problems facing most of society. My teacher made it very clear on both the first and last days of that class that, "problems we face in society are not black and white, nothing ever is, they come in many shades of gray". Those words resonated through me on those days, and they prove helpful here. I mean, listen to yourself, you want to kick out 11 million people, some of which, have been living here for decades, and you don't care for the consequences that would occur, both domestic and foreign, why?

Because they have gotten in the way of actually solving the problems that would occur if they are kicked out. We should have handled jobs that need workers by having our people work these jobs, not by hiring people from other countries. This is using duct tape to fix an open wound instead of stitching it shut. We need to remove the duct tape in order to stitch it shut. Sure, it'll hurt, but if we don't, it'll fuck us over in the long run.

I think you fail to grasp the concept of kicking out 11 MILLION people. This isn't pulling duct tape off of a wound, this straight shooting ourselves in the stomach. Kicking out 11 million people, the majority of which form the backbone of the economy of the areas in which they currently reside, and you want to kick them out. It would be like ripping the spine out of a human, the human is just going to collapse onto the ground in a puddle, a sad reminder of what it once was.

No, this would be like performing field surgery, without proper tools, on an appendix that may or may not be swelling.
Yes, it's going to hurt like a bitch, and it could kill us, but not doing so will kill us in the end. Same as sending so many jobs out to India and China. It's fucked us, and we can't get un-fucked without decades of forced un-fucking.

So if going into a worldwide economic recession is your idea of "un-fucking" us, then go right ahead.

Losing a few unregistered landscaping jobs isn't gonna put us in a recession, bub. Any job occupied by an illegal would have to be small enough to fly under the radar.

nice to see somebody so humble every once in a while