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|#203 - That's a realistic potential issue that some other commenters …||06/12/2013 on good guy government||0|
|#192 - This is well thought out and logical, especially about unequal… [+] (2 new replies)||06/12/2013 on good guy government||0|
|#180 - I don't deny it's an invasion of privacy and perhaps even a vi… [+] (1 new reply)||06/12/2013 on good guy government||+1|
|#171 - Haha I appreciate it, I guess that's what I get for trying to …||06/12/2013 on good guy government||0|
|#159 - I think that's very true. Many times policies like this are li… [+] (3 new replies)||06/12/2013 on good guy government||0|
|#144 - Believe me I'm not disagreeing with you, that's extremely vali…||06/12/2013 on good guy government||0|
|#122 - Before everyone lets their emotions drive their opinions and r… [+] (16 new replies)||06/12/2013 on good guy government||-8|
#245 - ICEDgrunge (06/12/2013) [-]
The NSA is an intelligence agency in which its prime directive is to obtain foreign intelligence and to protect the nations own information. As of the signing of the Executive Order 12333 by President Ronald Reagan, it is illegal for the NSA to collect any domestic information that is not gathered by the FBI. The FBI is the only agency that they are allowed to receive domestic information from, and the only information that is relevant for the NSA to hold is anything to do with Foreign or terrorist interests. The NSA, as exposed by Edward Snowden just recently, has been collecting information domestically, thereby breaking the law. The fact that they are collecting information on United States citizens is against the law, as they did not act within the confines of their legislation. It is obvious that you know nothing about what the NSA is doing based upon the grounds in which the NSA was constructed. It is not the information that they are gathering. I have nothing to hide. I have no involvement with any foreign intelligence, whether it be leaking information, or stealing information from the government, and I have nothing to do with terrorism. It is the fact that they are breaking the law. The idea that the government allows them to do this, or more likely the idea that they have hidden this from the government, leads to think what other fucking things are happening, as I'm sure we'd all like to know.
#185 - nicolbolas (06/12/2013) [-]
The way governments use "terrorism" and "terrorists" is too broad. Imagine the revolutionary war, Americans would view the revolutionaries as liberators if you will while the English would view them as terrorists by today's standards.
When the government has access to everyone's information, they can take communication that would be actual terrorism, an act of revolution, or a simple joke. Privacy is not directly worded in the Constitution but it is something to be considered, especially when people can invade on the right to free speech.
exchanging freedoms for "security" is not a fair tradeoff. Like in most movies where a small group rises above the oppressive government, it appears we are heading down the same path under the illusion of safety.
#192 - sexyduck (06/12/2013) [-]
This is well thought out and logical, especially about unequal tradeoff. My only point here was to present Side 1, Side 2, and then a little summary bringing it all together. I don't know where I stand on it yet so that's why I *attempted* to be as neutral as possible.
#167 - chiefrunnyjeans (06/12/2013) [-]
So the 3 billion phone records per day and collection and storing EVERYONE'S info without a warrant from google, facebook, yahoo, everything microsoft, etc was protecting us??? They care about everything everyone does. They don't discriminate. That's why they collect everything. You NEVER sacrifice privacy and/or freedom for a false sense of security. They aren't looking for terrorists. They're looking for YOU.
#180 - sexyduck (06/12/2013) [-]
I don't deny it's an invasion of privacy and perhaps even a violation of the 4th amendment, your point is valid. The false sense of security part is arguable but its just a matter of who feels safer and who doesn't, that's all.
It looks like people think I was sticking up for government when all in all I was just trying to present a neutral, no sides viewpoint. I didn't mean to start a debate haha
#147 - littlehozz (06/12/2013) [-]
this is a very fair argument and i appreciate the fact that you see both sides but in my mind its an issue of more than terrorists. if the government continues to get more and more invasive they will see other things that may8 not like and be able to pinpoint them as people they want to eliminate or such. keep in mind this is hypothetical but could easily happen
#159 - sexyduck (06/12/2013) [-]
I think that's very true. Many times policies like this are like a foot in the door for government, and then they take invasion of privacy to the next level and no one wants that of course.
The only point I wanted to get across was, assuming the government genuinely wanted to deter and stop terrorists (some people might think this is too generous of an assumption haha) taking away policies that monitor could possibly have an effect on terrorism, and that if so people would then have no right to complain about the government not protecting its citizens.
Like you said, its all hypothetical, and nothing may happen at all, but its just something that people should keep in the back of their minds before getting bent out of shape on the issue.
#135 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
If you have nothing to hide, would you mind someone staring through your window all day? Or sharing your private information with everyone here? The war on terrorism is over exaggerated by the government, there is a bigger chance of getting hit by lighting, then there is getting injured or killed in a terrorist attack. They are not keeping you safe, they are just keeping a watch on you . They have data on everyone, should there rise a need to use it against you, they could and most likely will.
#144 - sexyduck (06/12/2013) [-]
Believe me I'm not disagreeing with you, that's extremely valid and I understand why people say that this policy is a violation of rights.
I just wanted everyone to know what both sides' reasoning are, since a lot of people are immediately letting their emotions escalate like "Oh god how could they do this to us??" without knowing the full story.
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#13 - sexyduck (06/12/2013) [-]
How does one group of peoples' music preferences have ANY effect on your lives at all? Is your overall happiness somehow hindered knowing somewhere in the world some preteen is listening to Justin Beiber? I'm not justifying any musician or genre of music here, but seriously: get over yourselves and let people listen to what they want to without complaining like little faggots.
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#16 - anonymous (04/29/2013) [-]
I only noticed the woman was not real after I read your comment. I feel stupid..
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