I like beer as a social thing. Go out with some people, drink some beers and you'll find that conversation flows a lot more after a couple pints. Sometimes I'll do that same thing with whiskey. If I'm going to a party, I'll get a bottle of vodka or jaeger, but sometimes I might get a six-pack of beer. Drink is interchangable as fuck, so you don't gotta worry about what you're drinking. If anyone else doesn't like it, they can go fuck themselves.

Compared to shit eating, retarded cats, necrophiliac, cannibalistic, rapist ducks, shit smearing hedgehogs that eat their young, disease ridden turtles, nothing about the dolphins bugged me that much.

I'm not saying there isn't a possibility my opinion might change, but for the moment, of most of the beers I've tasted thus far, I've been quite disappointed.

But I still believe there's a beer out there which I might like, but I haven't found it.

>get the cheapest wine you can get
>i mean the cheapest one
>i mean the 99c type
>dump the whole bottle on a bucket/bigger container
>fill the rest with sprite/7-up
>cut some fruits like apples, oranges, pears and put them in the container
>congrats you have good sweety sangria with about 5%alcoohol

yeah beer is shit, its the kind of thing you drink when youre poor or just want quantity over quality

Not really, not in person. I just get invited to a party every once in a while, but unfortunately all my adult role models are good influences, unfortunately.

And I'll take hard liquor over beer any day of the week, but like I said, beer is more common and more widely used for maintaining a buzz, and minors have to be selective about alcohol because it's so difficult to acquire without the right sources. Basically meaning, we don't get to complain or be pickers most of the time.

I like beer as a social thing. Go out with some people, drink some beers and you'll find that conversation flows a lot more after a couple pints. Sometimes I'll do that same thing with whiskey. If I'm going to a party, I'll get a bottle of vodka or jaeger, but sometimes I might get a six-pack of beer. Drink is interchangable as fuck, so you don't gotta worry about what you're drinking. If anyone else doesn't like it, they can go fuck themselves.

I didn't like beer the first few times I tried it. But on occasion I've had the chance to drink really high-quality, craft brew kind of beers and those can be really good, taste like something I actually want to keep drinking.

It's not about the gays having what they want. It's about these kind of people having something to fight about. Because these people ALWAYS want something to fight about. Without gay marriage, they have nothing to fight about anymore, so they need something else.

As it happens that next thing will probably be polygamy, and doubtfully pedophilia. But our taboo for that is so insanely strong I can't imagine anything happening besides MAYBE a loosening up of the age of consent laws, and maybe our societal taboo on the matter.

If you think it just ends here, you're horribly naive. Because degeneracy IS a slippery slope. The only thing stopping another thing, is the time it takes to do one thing, in this case it was gay marriage. Now of course bestiality isn't going to be the next thing, because we wouldn't be ready for that. That would get instantly shut down. But what about in 25 years? A lot can change in 25 years, especially popular opinion. The ideas of sentience, consent, and love will likely degenerate there too.

So no, bestiality will never the next big thing today. But, it might be the next big thing in the decades to come. But only after we have degenerated in some other way first. Making society ok with Gay marriage is like a prerequisite to getting society ready for what's next.

Whew boy, that was a shit ton of misinterpretation.

When did I say gay marriage makes the concept of consent not exist? For one that's irrelevant, and second I never even said that. So strawman bro.

Now for your first misinterpretation, I don't use the word "degeneracy" in this context as meaning good or bad. I mean the word quite literally, like as in "to degenerate". As in morals that we have held close of the sexual nature as a culture, are now on the decline. This is by definition "degeneracy", and that's necessarily a bad thing depending on what it is. So apologies that you took that out of context.

And don't tell me I've "played my hand" as a "conservative fear-monger". I've already said it once, I'm not a "fear monger", I just point out obvious logic which apparently people are in "fear" of according to you. I am not a bigot, I don't even know where you got that from, I don't hate anyone for their skin color, gender, or sexuality. Well maybe not this sexuality anyway. I'm not terribly fond of zoophiles. For some reason you have perceived by observations of the obvious to be some kind of propaganda, can't imagine why.

Now for your second misinterpretation. Your vendetta against the slippery slope, has clouded your perception of the examples I listed. The slippery slope (like the word degeneracy earlier) is not an exclusively good or bad thing, as I thought would have been made clear by my examples. No I am not a racist, I am happy that Blacks are our equals now, but that process was a perfect example of slippery slope. No I am not a sexist, I am happy that women are also our equals now, but that process was also a perfect example of slippery slope. So not "oh no" or "gasp".

I do not entirely blame you for the first misinterpretation, but I blame you a little bit on the second. I hope by clearing up these misunderstandings my points are now abundantly clear to you.

"second I never even said that. So strawman bro."
"The ideas of sentience, consent, and love will likely degenerate there too."
Get fucked.

"I am not a bigot"
Said literally every bigot ever.

"but that process was a perfect example of slippery slope."
You have successfully demonstrated AGAIN that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Saying our idea or perception of consent might change over time =/= Saying consent will just stop existing for no reason

So yeah, wonderful strawman dude.

>Said literally every bigot ever

Yeah ooooook. Despite my literal lack of prejudice toward any particular group, I guess I'm a bigot and I just didn't know it. Geez doctor I really wish I knew earlier, I was completely clueless!

I'm pretty sure I do know what I'm talking about, maybe you don't understand it, but that doesn't make me wrong.

Now do you actually have anything to add or refute? Or is your entire comment just going to be "Get a load of this guy."?

That's literally all I need to do at this point.
You've made it painfully obvious to anyone who were to read this.

More like it's part of a slope.

And I just replied to myself, I am a genius.

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You mean the fear-monger's logic is based on slippery slope logic.
The people that wanted gay marriage have what they wanted. They don't need to push for anything else.
But people have continuously warned that making gay marriage legal will lead to bestiality being legal, and it's an absolutely fucking sutpid thing to say because an animal can never consent.
Totally different kind of scenario.
Comparing them is a sign that you have literally no good point to present and are just trying to prey on fear because it could NEVER actually happen.

Well, the matter here is what do you do once you catch someone doing it:

-If you catch people being incestuous, you can arrest them, punish them, etc.
-If you catch people having children what are you gonna do, kill the children...?

Since having an incestuous relationship/intercourse is required to have incestuous offspring, banning the first is the only way to ban the second.

"If you catch people having children what are you gonna do, kill the children?"

So, literally just abortion? Which is the most morally trivialized issue in America? Yeah just make them abort, and make incestuous procreation illegal. When things are illegal it discourages people from doing things, because they'll get a sentence if they do it. If the child was already born, then oh fucking well. It's not like all incestuously born children even have defects, they just have a higher chance to have them. A chance, I might add, which is rivaled by mothers in their 40s? We aren't banning older women from breeding are we? And even if the child did have a defect of some kind, our society is more than happy to accommodate them. Seriously even the most severe of mentally handicapped are ridiculously privileged. Also might I add that retards are still allowed to breed? No one is calling out eugenics there, so why are they calling it here? Why do you make incest just about the children? It's about the relationship.

Saying banning A is the only way to ban B is completely fallacious logic, and morally wrong. If that was how we made laws, we would hardly be allowed to do anything because Z will happen because A happened. Next thing you're going to say is that we should ban paint, because paint is required to vandalize buildings that way, so we may as well ban it.

Abortion is it's own debate. I was referring to the fact that once you find out you can't kil a 1-year old because of his origin. Plus, abortion is a decision that comes from its progenitors, not the state telling you to abort, so no point comparing those.

"If that was how we made laws, we would hardly be allowed to do anything because Z will happen because A happened" What you are using here is plain demagogy, that's like using the counter-argument that you need to be born in order to commit crimes, so stopping births stops crimes.

When A is borderline bannable, and B which is the only possible following event to A, then A is banned. It's not fallacious logic, its fucking logic. Why do you think selling drugs is a crime, when the crime should be taking them? Why do you think having guns is banned in most countries, when the crime should be killing people?

This IS in fact how we make laws, it's just your skewed view of this matter that makes you desire otherwise (as is human nature when we are taken away something we enjoy/want).

You'd be losing your choice in the matter because incestuous procreation would be illegal, and criminal punishment is defined as losing rights, usually being choice. If you were going to break the law by having an incestuous baby, you're not going to have the upper hand against the law as far as choice goes.

How is A borderline bannable? Do you really mean to say it's just a societal taboo? Because that's all it is. And no B is not the only possible thing following A. For some reason you are convinced there has never been a relationship in this world that has not ended with a child being created. I had a girlfriend when I was a 16, I remember very clearly how I never created a baby with her. The same can be said for millions of other couples. Also millions of marriages never conceive children. This is all evidence, that no "B is not the only possible following event to A" Not to mention that when incestuous procreation would be illegal, that would heavily discourage B from ever happening anyway.

I swear when arguing with people that have the same viewpoint you do, condoms, abortion, contraceptives, and the concept of "not wanting kids" just stop existing.

Now selling drugs is guaranteed that the sole purpose is for someone to take them. People don't sell or buy drugs just to have them sit on the shelf, it's a substance they intend to use. In this case, A is a means to get to B. That doesn't apply to this argument, because A in itself is what these people would want. To be married to their incest based partner. There aren't people that want incest legalized so they can create children that way, they want incest legalized so they can legally marry their partners period. I'm not going to deny there would be couples that would want such, but since B would be illegal, that is the compromise for legalizing this. And gun control, like you said, is it's own debate. It's a little too complicated to be used as a comparison in this regard.

A should be illegal when it's purpose is to cause B. But that doesn't fucking apply here. Because it's not the purpose of a marriage to create children, it's the purpose of a marriage to married to your spouse, procreation is something else entirely. Essentially A should be legal, because A doesn't always cause B, especially if B was illegal on it's own. And if you think A will always cause B, you're wrong.

Also I'll just assume, that you didn't have a counterpoint for most of my first paragraph on my previous comment?

Well that was the most subjective argument I've hard all day.

"Homosexuality is fucking gross, you don't even need a biological explanation to understand it, what the fuck is wrong with you?"

Does anything seem wrong with that statement?

Yes I did compare homosexuality to incest. They are both a sexual issue, and are more similar than you think. They were or still are illegal to some extent, society has strong taboos against them, the taboos against them both are completely irrational, and it's a taste that's only going to be understood by people that belong to that category. Quite similar actually.

This is why I replaced the word "incest" with "homosexuality" in your comment. To put it better into context how ignorant you're being.

For one, you finding incest gross, is completely subjective and irrelevant. Just like how someone finding homosexuality gross would also be subjective and irrelevant. No one is asking you to take part in incest, just like how nobody is asking anyone to take part in homosexuality. But why does just because you find it gross, it should be banned?

>homosexuality isn't that big of a deal

I agree. And I also think that incest isn't that big of a deal

>and you think you can put incest at the same level?

Yes I can, why can't I? They're quite similar. Read my first paragraph on a few examples on how.

Well that's an odd way to present a villain.

1. He's injured 2. Rey lived alone in what is basically the ghettos of the galaxy all her life scavenging in order to survive and having to defend herself from any would be attackers. So she knows how to fight.3. Kylo Ren was still in training, we see him kick ass against non force users with ease because well, he uses the force and has a lifesaber. This his his first fight with force users since he killed the other Jedis in training but he never did go against a real jedi, so he's basically where Luke was in empire strikes back only as a sith.

1. I said he was injured already, but he's still a badass. Also that at best covers a plot hole, when they shouldn't have wrote the story in that fashion in the first place. 2. Sure fighting and survivability might translate well for a blaster, or that staff thing she has, but not a fucking lightsaber. They are the most unwieldy weapon in the galaxy because of their unbalance nature, all the weight is in the hilt, that is the polar opposite of her experience with a staff and WOULD NOT translate well at all. Not to mention you need to be trained to use a lightsaber just so you can avoid accidentally cutting your own limbs off, much less use them effectively. I don't care who Rey is, you can't just "pick up a lightsaber". 3. Kylo Ren is not that inexperienced in the slightest. Luke was having trouble enough with telekinesis, difficulty pulling a lightsaber out of snow, and after being trained, couldn't lift his X-Wing. Kylo Ren was able to fucking FREEZE people and THEIR FUCKING BLASTER SHOT IN MID FLIGHT. DUDE, that is not something a filthy casul could just do! Like it or not, that is evidence enough that Kylo Ren HAS to be trained and skilled in a relatively significant regard.

true, tbh it would make more sense if Finn was better than Rey with the light saber because he was the best in his class in hand to hand combat (such as the stun baton) +he had more practice with it even if it is just a few hours or so... Rey literally just picked up l it up when she fought kylo

That might work in unarmed combat, which would require for both parties to be disarmed. Or Fin should have had that spinny thing that one Stormtrooper had, which would have made more sense, but that still wouldn't have translated to a lightsaber very well.

really now that I'm thinking about it, why didn't Finn pick up one of the blasters of a fallen stormtrooper

He did.

Oh... I don't know I gotta rewatch it.

Yeah he obviously prefers the blaster, and only uses the saber out of desperation, or against another saber. He actually prefers his strengths quite a bit.

blood loss fucking sucks man

I used to go to a private school. It wasn't terribly expensive but a lot of the people there came from seriously rich families. I eventually transferred to a public school but I still knew all those private school people, and so did many other people I knew. I lived in the middle class suburbs of my city and driving just a bit more outwards took you to the really rich suburbs so pretty much everyone knew someone rich. Even now I have a really close friend in a private college where most of the people are filthy fucking rich. I've spent enough time around them. No they're not all like that but there's definitely a lot of them that are.

That daddy there ruins it. And honestly, rich people are just pricks. Very few of them actually teach humility and appreciation to their kids, most of them tell them to behave like that and encourage it.

There's no point generalizing over a whole spectrum of people we've never met. It's quite assumptive and unwise for us to despise people for simply being born inside an ivory tower.

Give them a chance, or they will never have reason to give us a chance either. Class hatred is petty, and dated.

I used to go to a private school. It wasn't terribly expensive but a lot of the people there came from seriously rich families. I eventually transferred to a public school but I still knew all those private school people, and so did many other people I knew. I lived in the middle class suburbs of my city and driving just a bit more outwards took you to the really rich suburbs so pretty much everyone knew someone rich. Even now I have a really close friend in a private college where most of the people are filthy fucking rich. I've spent enough time around them. No they're not all like that but there's definitely a lot of them that are.

I'm just imagining Yoda throwing an Autistic Shit Fit

SIIIIIIIIIITH!!! FUCKING GET OUT OF MY COUCIL YOU WILL!!!!!!!!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

your comment is underrated and hilarious af
you actually brought me to tears

y-you too...