Sorry dude but its not that simple.

>How dare I show admiration to something I like by doing things I love.I am soo braindead.

And ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away.Also there are ways of helping people with mental illness such as medicine or therapy.If a human was to be cought committing these things they'd be sent to a mental institution.You can't help a synth that same way you can just shut one off and reprogram it.

The institute has records of all the synths that have escaped so it's not long enough untill they find them and reprogram them ;-;.And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

I don't really hate them,I just don't trust them,especially around people.

I don't see how not wanting to commit genocide on the innocent is "ignoring the problem". There isn't a synth problem, there's just a institute problem.

And no, people normally imprison or execute people that are guilty of such things. That being when a mental illness causes 1 shooting you're so obsessed about.

Who cares what the Institute have records on? The Railroad already knows that, that's why they go to such great lengths to hide them. Memory wipes, name changes (obviously), facial reconstructions etc. If we stop the institute, then they can't do anything so that point is irrelevant.

>And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

Well no shit Sherlock, we can't time travel and change the past. But I think we all agree, the past is over. Wanting to punish all synths for crimes most of them were never even guilty of committing is just evil.

I don't see why you distrust synths any more or any less than you distrust humans. Considering that humans have done a lot more wrong than synths ever have. Like committing genocide on the innocent, extorting communities, imperialism. Funny because the Enclave and this Enclave of Steel chapter are guilty of all 3 of these things!

A synth has never done anything, that another human has done 100x worse. Humans are far more guilty than synths are, and yet we don't generalize them, why do you think that is?

If you think oppression, genocide, or invading where you aren't wanted are logical solutions, then you're a narcissistic, psychotic fool.

The problem with Synths is that they are more dangerous on a conceptual level than any nuclear bomb or military superweapon. The Institute is dangerous not because they are some evil, hidden new world order bent on taking control of the world, but because they are simply and purely dedicated to the advancement of science without any regard for the consequences.

The destruction of the Synths, of all Synths is vital simply because of the risk that someone might be able to replicate the Institute's advanced level of technology and this individual, or organization may have more nefarious ideals in mind than the simple unadulterated advancement of science.

Are Synths truly people? I'd say yes. Completely. Which is, among other reasons why they need to be purged as quickly as possible. It was never the Brotherhood's goal to commit genocide. It's simply a means to an end, and that end being the ensured and continued survival of humanity, and what remains of human civilization after the Great War. The quicker this unsavoury task is committed, the less unsavoury it is.

The Brotherhood has always been about one thing, and one thing only. The preservation of mankind by limiting their access to harmful technologies. That's why they've committed every resource they have to scouring the Commonwealth for Synths. Why Elder Maxson would wage war against them despite knowing full well that his own faction will take heavy losses in this war.

I'll be honest, I don't think I'm going to change your opinion on the matter. In truth, I don't really want to. I just want to give a clearer picture of what people on the other side think. That's one of the things about Fallout. Every faction, every group, they all have their reasons to do what they do. Be that the Master and his Super Mutants, the Enclave, the Legion, hell, even the Institute. It's all justifiable. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but to someone out there it is. That's the beauty of the Fallout Games. Nobody's ever completely in the right, and nobody's ever completely in the wrong. At the end of the day, it all falls to personal preference. Even if you can't choose that faction in-game, you can (and people do) always root for them out of game.

For one, there's nothing to suggest synths would be responsible for the downfall of humanity any more than anyone else. If the institute is destroyed, it is borderline impossible to emulate anything they created. The sheer complexity and miraculous scientific achievement, is simply not something you can do in just any meth lab. And synths aren't terminators, and they never will be as long as we treat them like the sentient beings they are.

The ends justify the means? What justifies the ends? There have never been good people who did evil things in the name of good, those were just more evil people.

Who has time for that? Subscribe!

I dislike the Brotherhood for the same reasons you do, but I have to disagree with you one one important point. I think that Elder Maxson actually does care for the welfare of the Commonwealth and its people. He's not just some petty tyrant who justifies a power grab by saying it's for the great good. His ideals may be wrong on so many levels, but I think Maxson honestly believes that what he's doing is what's best for the Commonwealth.

>Ignoring what happened in diamond city

I feel you haven't the mayor of diamond city is one and look what an asshole he turned out to be .BoS has nothing against non feral Ghouls,most of them are even 200 years old.Maxsons Ideas are of what will benefit the commonwealth.

And as sad as this sounds it is still both fault.The institute can reprogram the synths anytime they feel like it.The person you love the most ,that despite being a synth,will simply forget all that once someone from the institute decided that they should be something else or better yet try to kill you.

Im sorry but synths do not have the same free will as we do.No amount of codes will force you to forget why you are (or what you believe you are).They should be treated as something else not human,you can still show it respect,but don't be fooled into believing its human.

They're not human, but they're still people. They deserve more than your fucking gas chamber. Also...

>Saying synths just don't have the same free will as humans, from an organization of sheep following a lunatic, top kek.

I ignore what happened in Diamond City, because that was an isolated coincidence. Using that a reason to generalize over an entire people is post hoc fallacy. A synth glitched out and went on a shooting so what? You know humans glitch out a lot more than synths and attack people? We just call those mental disorders. Are you going to exterminate all humans now because of 1 or 2 isolated cases?

The institute can only "reprogram" a synth is if they have physical access to it. If they never get to that synth, then the synth never stops being a person. And that only pushes for the case that the institute should be stopped. They just want to oppress the entire synth people. Basically you have Egyptian slave masters on one side, Nazi holocaust on the other, I choose neither.

If a synth does all the same exact things a human does, be sentient, have emotions, have desires, have dreams, have beliefs, loves things, fears things, be conscious, then you just as "human" to me as anyone else is.

Let go of your hate. There is absolutely no justification on committing genocide against an entire people. Only ignorance, superstition, and hypocrisy.

Sorry dude but its not that simple.

>How dare I show admiration to something I like by doing things I love.I am soo braindead.

And ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away.Also there are ways of helping people with mental illness such as medicine or therapy.If a human was to be cought committing these things they'd be sent to a mental institution.You can't help a synth that same way you can just shut one off and reprogram it.

The institute has records of all the synths that have escaped so it's not long enough untill they find them and reprogram them ;-;.And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

I don't really hate them,I just don't trust them,especially around people.

I don't see how not wanting to commit genocide on the innocent is "ignoring the problem". There isn't a synth problem, there's just a institute problem.

And no, people normally imprison or execute people that are guilty of such things. That being when a mental illness causes 1 shooting you're so obsessed about.

Who cares what the Institute have records on? The Railroad already knows that, that's why they go to such great lengths to hide them. Memory wipes, name changes (obviously), facial reconstructions etc. If we stop the institute, then they can't do anything so that point is irrelevant.

>And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

Well no shit Sherlock, we can't time travel and change the past. But I think we all agree, the past is over. Wanting to punish all synths for crimes most of them were never even guilty of committing is just evil.

I don't see why you distrust synths any more or any less than you distrust humans. Considering that humans have done a lot more wrong than synths ever have. Like committing genocide on the innocent, extorting communities, imperialism. Funny because the Enclave and this Enclave of Steel chapter are guilty of all 3 of these things!

A synth has never done anything, that another human has done 100x worse. Humans are far more guilty than synths are, and yet we don't generalize them, why do you think that is?

If you think oppression, genocide, or invading where you aren't wanted are logical solutions, then you're a narcissistic, psychotic fool.

The problem with Synths is that they are more dangerous on a conceptual level than any nuclear bomb or military superweapon. The Institute is dangerous not because they are some evil, hidden new world order bent on taking control of the world, but because they are simply and purely dedicated to the advancement of science without any regard for the consequences.

The destruction of the Synths, of all Synths is vital simply because of the risk that someone might be able to replicate the Institute's advanced level of technology and this individual, or organization may have more nefarious ideals in mind than the simple unadulterated advancement of science.

Are Synths truly people? I'd say yes. Completely. Which is, among other reasons why they need to be purged as quickly as possible. It was never the Brotherhood's goal to commit genocide. It's simply a means to an end, and that end being the ensured and continued survival of humanity, and what remains of human civilization after the Great War. The quicker this unsavoury task is committed, the less unsavoury it is.

The Brotherhood has always been about one thing, and one thing only. The preservation of mankind by limiting their access to harmful technologies. That's why they've committed every resource they have to scouring the Commonwealth for Synths. Why Elder Maxson would wage war against them despite knowing full well that his own faction will take heavy losses in this war.

I'll be honest, I don't think I'm going to change your opinion on the matter. In truth, I don't really want to. I just want to give a clearer picture of what people on the other side think. That's one of the things about Fallout. Every faction, every group, they all have their reasons to do what they do. Be that the Master and his Super Mutants, the Enclave, the Legion, hell, even the Institute. It's all justifiable. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but to someone out there it is. That's the beauty of the Fallout Games. Nobody's ever completely in the right, and nobody's ever completely in the wrong. At the end of the day, it all falls to personal preference. Even if you can't choose that faction in-game, you can (and people do) always root for them out of game.

For one, there's nothing to suggest synths would be responsible for the downfall of humanity any more than anyone else. If the institute is destroyed, it is borderline impossible to emulate anything they created. The sheer complexity and miraculous scientific achievement, is simply not something you can do in just any meth lab. And synths aren't terminators, and they never will be as long as we treat them like the sentient beings they are.

The ends justify the means? What justifies the ends? There have never been good people who did evil things in the name of good, those were just more evil people.

...is that game still alive?

can i play it?

Yeah, if I understand correctly, an English version is released or underway.

arks-layer.com/

Here's a link to the PSO2 Tweaker, the special english launcher someone made that does a bunch of stuff. You might need to connect via the proxy server if you can't log in/get to the server list. On the 27th is an update for a new Summoner class.

Link to how to connect to the proxy server: pso2proxy.cyberkitsune.net/

yes
and the anime is Phantasy Star Online 2 The Animation

Maxson means he wants to protect his people as in everyone in the commonwealth not just BoS.They are nothing like the enclave and raiders.

They also have a good reason to be against synths and feral ghouls,they are a huge threat to the commonwealth and ignoring them will just cause more problems.Synths fucking kill living humans and replace them for a soulless counterparts ,how can you honestly trust something like that.I know not all of them are bad but do you honestly think that you can trust something that has done more bad then good.

>More bad than good

Yeah you haven't met very many synths. And thinking all ghouls are feral is just fucked up. Maxson doesn't care about the welfare of the Commonwealth, he only cares about his own ideas. The Commonwealth didn't asked to be oppressed by this regime.

It's not synths, it's the institute. Treating all synths as the same is prejudice, and committing this ignorant genocide is unforgivable. Treating all ghouls as ferals is also prejudice, and dehumization of human beings, also unforgivable.

I trust a synth the same way I trust any other human, on a case by case basis. Not by jumping to conclusions, not by assuming one synth courser represents the whole.

If more bad than good is a standard you use, you shouldn't be siding with the Enclave of Steel.

I dislike the Brotherhood for the same reasons you do, but I have to disagree with you one one important point. I think that Elder Maxson actually does care for the welfare of the Commonwealth and its people. He's not just some petty tyrant who justifies a power grab by saying it's for the great good. His ideals may be wrong on so many levels, but I think Maxson honestly believes that what he's doing is what's best for the Commonwealth.

>Ignoring what happened in diamond city

I feel you haven't the mayor of diamond city is one and look what an asshole he turned out to be .BoS has nothing against non feral Ghouls,most of them are even 200 years old.Maxsons Ideas are of what will benefit the commonwealth.

And as sad as this sounds it is still both fault.The institute can reprogram the synths anytime they feel like it.The person you love the most ,that despite being a synth,will simply forget all that once someone from the institute decided that they should be something else or better yet try to kill you.

Im sorry but synths do not have the same free will as we do.No amount of codes will force you to forget why you are (or what you believe you are).They should be treated as something else not human,you can still show it respect,but don't be fooled into believing its human.

They're not human, but they're still people. They deserve more than your fucking gas chamber. Also...

>Saying synths just don't have the same free will as humans, from an organization of sheep following a lunatic, top kek.

I ignore what happened in Diamond City, because that was an isolated coincidence. Using that a reason to generalize over an entire people is post hoc fallacy. A synth glitched out and went on a shooting so what? You know humans glitch out a lot more than synths and attack people? We just call those mental disorders. Are you going to exterminate all humans now because of 1 or 2 isolated cases?

The institute can only "reprogram" a synth is if they have physical access to it. If they never get to that synth, then the synth never stops being a person. And that only pushes for the case that the institute should be stopped. They just want to oppress the entire synth people. Basically you have Egyptian slave masters on one side, Nazi holocaust on the other, I choose neither.

If a synth does all the same exact things a human does, be sentient, have emotions, have desires, have dreams, have beliefs, loves things, fears things, be conscious, then you just as "human" to me as anyone else is.

Let go of your hate. There is absolutely no justification on committing genocide against an entire people. Only ignorance, superstition, and hypocrisy.

Sorry dude but its not that simple.

>How dare I show admiration to something I like by doing things I love.I am soo braindead.

And ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away.Also there are ways of helping people with mental illness such as medicine or therapy.If a human was to be cought committing these things they'd be sent to a mental institution.You can't help a synth that same way you can just shut one off and reprogram it.

The institute has records of all the synths that have escaped so it's not long enough untill they find them and reprogram them ;-;.And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

I don't really hate them,I just don't trust them,especially around people.

I don't see how not wanting to commit genocide on the innocent is "ignoring the problem". There isn't a synth problem, there's just a institute problem.

And no, people normally imprison or execute people that are guilty of such things. That being when a mental illness causes 1 shooting you're so obsessed about.

Who cares what the Institute have records on? The Railroad already knows that, that's why they go to such great lengths to hide them. Memory wipes, name changes (obviously), facial reconstructions etc. If we stop the institute, then they can't do anything so that point is irrelevant.

>And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

Well no shit Sherlock, we can't time travel and change the past. But I think we all agree, the past is over. Wanting to punish all synths for crimes most of them were never even guilty of committing is just evil.

I don't see why you distrust synths any more or any less than you distrust humans. Considering that humans have done a lot more wrong than synths ever have. Like committing genocide on the innocent, extorting communities, imperialism. Funny because the Enclave and this Enclave of Steel chapter are guilty of all 3 of these things!

A synth has never done anything, that another human has done 100x worse. Humans are far more guilty than synths are, and yet we don't generalize them, why do you think that is?

If you think oppression, genocide, or invading where you aren't wanted are logical solutions, then you're a narcissistic, psychotic fool.

The problem with Synths is that they are more dangerous on a conceptual level than any nuclear bomb or military superweapon. The Institute is dangerous not because they are some evil, hidden new world order bent on taking control of the world, but because they are simply and purely dedicated to the advancement of science without any regard for the consequences.

The destruction of the Synths, of all Synths is vital simply because of the risk that someone might be able to replicate the Institute's advanced level of technology and this individual, or organization may have more nefarious ideals in mind than the simple unadulterated advancement of science.

Are Synths truly people? I'd say yes. Completely. Which is, among other reasons why they need to be purged as quickly as possible. It was never the Brotherhood's goal to commit genocide. It's simply a means to an end, and that end being the ensured and continued survival of humanity, and what remains of human civilization after the Great War. The quicker this unsavoury task is committed, the less unsavoury it is.

The Brotherhood has always been about one thing, and one thing only. The preservation of mankind by limiting their access to harmful technologies. That's why they've committed every resource they have to scouring the Commonwealth for Synths. Why Elder Maxson would wage war against them despite knowing full well that his own faction will take heavy losses in this war.

I'll be honest, I don't think I'm going to change your opinion on the matter. In truth, I don't really want to. I just want to give a clearer picture of what people on the other side think. That's one of the things about Fallout. Every faction, every group, they all have their reasons to do what they do. Be that the Master and his Super Mutants, the Enclave, the Legion, hell, even the Institute. It's all justifiable. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but to someone out there it is. That's the beauty of the Fallout Games. Nobody's ever completely in the right, and nobody's ever completely in the wrong. At the end of the day, it all falls to personal preference. Even if you can't choose that faction in-game, you can (and people do) always root for them out of game.

For one, there's nothing to suggest synths would be responsible for the downfall of humanity any more than anyone else. If the institute is destroyed, it is borderline impossible to emulate anything they created. The sheer complexity and miraculous scientific achievement, is simply not something you can do in just any meth lab. And synths aren't terminators, and they never will be as long as we treat them like the sentient beings they are.

The ends justify the means? What justifies the ends? There have never been good people who did evil things in the name of good, those were just more evil people.

That's the best part of the Brotherhood of Steel, even from a "main character that gets to do anything" perspective they're very easy to manipulate for personal gain. An entire New Vegas DLC campaign is based around the exploits of a man that basically made them his private security so he can fuck around curiously in old buildings.

And only their people. The same can be said for the Enclave, or any Raider gang.

There is no honor or strength in extorting the populace, and forcing yourself upon them unwarranted.

There is no intelligence or honor in over generalization and genocide of sentient peoples. These mainly being synths and ghouls. It's ignorant and evil.

You're either our protector, our our conqueror.

Maxson means he wants to protect his people as in everyone in the commonwealth not just BoS.They are nothing like the enclave and raiders.

They also have a good reason to be against synths and feral ghouls,they are a huge threat to the commonwealth and ignoring them will just cause more problems.Synths fucking kill living humans and replace them for a soulless counterparts ,how can you honestly trust something like that.I know not all of them are bad but do you honestly think that you can trust something that has done more bad then good.

>More bad than good

Yeah you haven't met very many synths. And thinking all ghouls are feral is just fucked up. Maxson doesn't care about the welfare of the Commonwealth, he only cares about his own ideas. The Commonwealth didn't asked to be oppressed by this regime.

It's not synths, it's the institute. Treating all synths as the same is prejudice, and committing this ignorant genocide is unforgivable. Treating all ghouls as ferals is also prejudice, and dehumization of human beings, also unforgivable.

I trust a synth the same way I trust any other human, on a case by case basis. Not by jumping to conclusions, not by assuming one synth courser represents the whole.

If more bad than good is a standard you use, you shouldn't be siding with the Enclave of Steel.

I dislike the Brotherhood for the same reasons you do, but I have to disagree with you one one important point. I think that Elder Maxson actually does care for the welfare of the Commonwealth and its people. He's not just some petty tyrant who justifies a power grab by saying it's for the great good. His ideals may be wrong on so many levels, but I think Maxson honestly believes that what he's doing is what's best for the Commonwealth.

>Ignoring what happened in diamond city

I feel you haven't the mayor of diamond city is one and look what an asshole he turned out to be .BoS has nothing against non feral Ghouls,most of them are even 200 years old.Maxsons Ideas are of what will benefit the commonwealth.

And as sad as this sounds it is still both fault.The institute can reprogram the synths anytime they feel like it.The person you love the most ,that despite being a synth,will simply forget all that once someone from the institute decided that they should be something else or better yet try to kill you.

Im sorry but synths do not have the same free will as we do.No amount of codes will force you to forget why you are (or what you believe you are).They should be treated as something else not human,you can still show it respect,but don't be fooled into believing its human.

They're not human, but they're still people. They deserve more than your fucking gas chamber. Also...

>Saying synths just don't have the same free will as humans, from an organization of sheep following a lunatic, top kek.

I ignore what happened in Diamond City, because that was an isolated coincidence. Using that a reason to generalize over an entire people is post hoc fallacy. A synth glitched out and went on a shooting so what? You know humans glitch out a lot more than synths and attack people? We just call those mental disorders. Are you going to exterminate all humans now because of 1 or 2 isolated cases?

The institute can only "reprogram" a synth is if they have physical access to it. If they never get to that synth, then the synth never stops being a person. And that only pushes for the case that the institute should be stopped. They just want to oppress the entire synth people. Basically you have Egyptian slave masters on one side, Nazi holocaust on the other, I choose neither.

If a synth does all the same exact things a human does, be sentient, have emotions, have desires, have dreams, have beliefs, loves things, fears things, be conscious, then you just as "human" to me as anyone else is.

Let go of your hate. There is absolutely no justification on committing genocide against an entire people. Only ignorance, superstition, and hypocrisy.

Sorry dude but its not that simple.

>How dare I show admiration to something I like by doing things I love.I am soo braindead.

And ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away.Also there are ways of helping people with mental illness such as medicine or therapy.If a human was to be cought committing these things they'd be sent to a mental institution.You can't help a synth that same way you can just shut one off and reprogram it.

The institute has records of all the synths that have escaped so it's not long enough untill they find them and reprogram them ;-;.And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

I don't really hate them,I just don't trust them,especially around people.

I don't see how not wanting to commit genocide on the innocent is "ignoring the problem". There isn't a synth problem, there's just a institute problem.

And no, people normally imprison or execute people that are guilty of such things. That being when a mental illness causes 1 shooting you're so obsessed about.

Who cares what the Institute have records on? The Railroad already knows that, that's why they go to such great lengths to hide them. Memory wipes, name changes (obviously), facial reconstructions etc. If we stop the institute, then they can't do anything so that point is irrelevant.

>And simply stopping the institute isn't going to stop the damage that has been done.

Well no shit Sherlock, we can't time travel and change the past. But I think we all agree, the past is over. Wanting to punish all synths for crimes most of them were never even guilty of committing is just evil.

I don't see why you distrust synths any more or any less than you distrust humans. Considering that humans have done a lot more wrong than synths ever have. Like committing genocide on the innocent, extorting communities, imperialism. Funny because the Enclave and this Enclave of Steel chapter are guilty of all 3 of these things!

A synth has never done anything, that another human has done 100x worse. Humans are far more guilty than synths are, and yet we don't generalize them, why do you think that is?

If you think oppression, genocide, or invading where you aren't wanted are logical solutions, then you're a narcissistic, psychotic fool.

The problem with Synths is that they are more dangerous on a conceptual level than any nuclear bomb or military superweapon. The Institute is dangerous not because they are some evil, hidden new world order bent on taking control of the world, but because they are simply and purely dedicated to the advancement of science without any regard for the consequences.

The destruction of the Synths, of all Synths is vital simply because of the risk that someone might be able to replicate the Institute's advanced level of technology and this individual, or organization may have more nefarious ideals in mind than the simple unadulterated advancement of science.

Are Synths truly people? I'd say yes. Completely. Which is, among other reasons why they need to be purged as quickly as possible. It was never the Brotherhood's goal to commit genocide. It's simply a means to an end, and that end being the ensured and continued survival of humanity, and what remains of human civilization after the Great War. The quicker this unsavoury task is committed, the less unsavoury it is.

The Brotherhood has always been about one thing, and one thing only. The preservation of mankind by limiting their access to harmful technologies. That's why they've committed every resource they have to scouring the Commonwealth for Synths. Why Elder Maxson would wage war against them despite knowing full well that his own faction will take heavy losses in this war.

I'll be honest, I don't think I'm going to change your opinion on the matter. In truth, I don't really want to. I just want to give a clearer picture of what people on the other side think. That's one of the things about Fallout. Every faction, every group, they all have their reasons to do what they do. Be that the Master and his Super Mutants, the Enclave, the Legion, hell, even the Institute. It's all justifiable. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but to someone out there it is. That's the beauty of the Fallout Games. Nobody's ever completely in the right, and nobody's ever completely in the wrong. At the end of the day, it all falls to personal preference. Even if you can't choose that faction in-game, you can (and people do) always root for them out of game.

For one, there's nothing to suggest synths would be responsible for the downfall of humanity any more than anyone else. If the institute is destroyed, it is borderline impossible to emulate anything they created. The sheer complexity and miraculous scientific achievement, is simply not something you can do in just any meth lab. And synths aren't terminators, and they never will be as long as we treat them like the sentient beings they are.

The ends justify the means? What justifies the ends? There have never been good people who did evil things in the name of good, those were just more evil people.

shh its true. Don't tell anybody

I spend quite a bit of time here on FJ. More than any other site most likely. It's only natural I'm invested in it.

Or Arab, didn't see that.

You know you won the argument when your opponent tries to accuse you of the same thing you accuse them of. Nice try though, but the lack of religion and its poisons is nothing like religion, at all. Like polar opposite political factions, desperately trying to twist words to make their enemy seem more like the Nazis than themselves.

Swell with people having a circlejerk to complain about atheists circlejerking. Supplemented with fedora jokes.

Well atheists are the only posting atheist oriented content. I don't post religious stuff because people will often not appreciate circle jerking about other beliefs are wrong. That cuts every way.

You got some low ass standards for what qualifies as a "circlejerk"

As a whole maybe, but anything other than just the movies might justifiably be considered somewhat obscure

I never watched a star wars movie except for the new one and only because I bought tickets for my girlfriend's birthday

not everything means some thing
just enjoy them for what they are

Marry a man because they're the only one's that put out...

Don't believe anything you read on the internet.