Laws can be wrong and sometimes should be changed. Laws are not made as an objective sense of morality (which is what the idea of a legal system is) they were designed by a single group of people for what they thought was right, but may have been wrong.

Just because it's the law, doesn't mean it's right.

I do agree with that. But again, simply because you believe a law is wrong doesn't make you above the law. Civil disobedience, appeals, petitions, speaking with governmental representatives, etc., are all very important and should absolutely be used when you think a law is morally wrong. But you can't expect the law to not apply to you simply because you don't agree with it.

You're not wrong that this show causes immense damage to the lives of all it's victims, however I don't disagree with it at all.

That girl, in the comic, said she was literally 12 or 13 years old. Shes obviously not, shes an 18 year old actress. If that fuck was going on the beach to meet with my 12 year old daughter to try and fuck her, i fucking promise you the police would be the safer option.

They never have the girl pretend to be 17 or 16, which are legal ages in Ny and NJ for example, they always go below 15. No man over 18 should be going after a girl younger than 15. If you disagree with that, we have a problem.

They also specifically explained that they look at the suspects history. If the guy just got tempted and thought he could get away with going a little young and it's his first time offense, they apparently go much easier on them with jail time and such. It's the repeat, 50 year old, creepy ass, new balance shoes, khaki shorts long socks wearing pervert faggots they're going after.

There was one guy who came in and literally didnt even try to talk to the girl, he was going in for the rape and they stopped him.

The thing I think is wrong with the program is that they are luring these guys out, it's not like he's the one finding the girl, because guess what, there is no girl.
What he does isn't even illegal, unless the show uses an actual under aged girl, in which it feels like they are the ones being illegal.
Also isn't it illegal for police to set up booby traps?
I mean, the guy is chatting with a girl thats above 18 and he's meeting up with a girl that's above 18, nothing illegal about that. And why would it be illegal to visit an underaged girl? He hasn't had sex with her, so nothing illegal there.

This show is a joke and only retarded people will see the guy as a predator.

They never initiate contact with the suspects, the suspect always messages first.
The suspect is always informed multiple times that the girl is under 15.
There IS a girl, she's just not 12..., if they are under the impression that the girl is 12 and they try to meet her, by showing clear intent (driving to the house, potentially bringing condoms, liquor, etc..) they deserve all of it.


I think you're the retarded predator bud.

I guess I never saw the part where they show the chat room where he added a girl.


Also, if you can get in trouble for saying things on the internet then why am I not in jail?

I never said you would get in trouble for anything you said, im just fucking with you. Regardless yeah they show the behind the scenes stuff and after they explain the process you feel less empathy for the predator.

What you're thinking of is called entrapment. Which this is clearly not. He found the girl on the internet who may be under 18, and visited her house with clear intentions. Source: I did compliance checks when I was 15 for the state patrol. This isn't entrapment

Ah, yeah. I forgot state laws are different. In some states, if the third party is associated with police, it is considered entrapment, but others believe that a third party is still independent from the state even when they cooperate with the police.

Thumb ME down if you want, but if this guy tried to hook up with my 13 year old daughter, he wouldn't need the police. The morgue would be more suitable to his heart beating capabilities.

Just two autist neckbeard pedophiles? Hmmm.....I actually expected more. At least one of them is proud of his bearded neck....must have felt all euphoric after that last fedora purchase.

and I will

The age of consent (depending on the state) is 16-18. I'm not trying to start an argument and I can see if she were close to 18 it wouldn't be that big of a deal but I think they use profiles around the really really early teens to lure people. It's kinda scary how much the bait works.

Stupid questions here. Is intending to have sex with a minor against the law? I mean, can anyone be punished for a crime before commiting it? Shouldn't they wait for the guy to at least try? Also, is the actress really a minor? Because if she is, they are putting her in danger, if she isn't, then he was never against the law(since "she told me she was 18" doesn't hold in court, so "she told YOU she was 13" shouldn't either.)

Conspiracy to commit a crime is often punishable in a court of law; if you have every intention of having sex with an underage person, steer a conversation with an underage person in that direction, gain the underage persons willingness, and take steps to meet up with that underage person - there is plenty of evidence that you intended to commit a crime, you took steps towards commtting that crime, and the most reasonable prevention of that crime was not the defendants will but rather the police or individuals who had set up the trap.

Even if they couldn't get them on conspiracy, normally sexually explicit talk with a minor (obviously we're talking a little more than sex ed) or attempting to entice a minor are punishable offenses.

Yes it is. Trying to rob a bank is also punishable by law. Trying is punishable.

I think in these situations, at the point they've gone to, yes, it is illegal. I'm not 100% on that, but, as stated before, these scenarios don't play out until after the online thing has gone down and they've stated intentions.

I do think I recall one scenario where a guy hadn't actually stated any perverse intentions, so they just let him go?

They usually ask the guy to bring condoms and alcohol, and if he does then it shows intent to have sex and drink with a minor (I'm fairly sure anyways)

Now that you mention it, I think that was the reason that guy got off the hook. Because he didn't come with that BS.

This isn't tumblr, moralfag.

While I always find it entertaining to watch people get their just deserves, I do disagree with you on your point. It isn't the show that is ruining people's lives, it is most certainly the person themselves. The show lays out the trap, but the person takes the illegal bait, damn well knowing that what they are setting out to do is illegal. Now if it was something as a preexisting relationship and one of the people in it turned 18, there is a very slim chance that they would be prosecuted on it. However I have watched "To catch a predator" for many years and I have heard shit that made my skin crawl, and they have shown guys going after 11-13 year olds too. But the ones who are truly fucking up people's lives are the ones who do meet actual young children online, and pray on them. That is what this show is trying to deter, and open eyes about.

14+ most of the time.

I guess because any younger isn't in their comfort zone in justifying manipulation and deceit using a child.

Mainly he looks relatively young. In comparison to that girl, not that much older.

These numbers are so ingrained in our culture that we're starting these witch hunts and defending victims where none exist.

For example, did you know an underage boy got convicted for having nudes of himself on his own phone? That was considered child pornography and he was convicted. We are completely insane as a society now, and our taboos control our morality more than logic, reason or rationality do.

They're meeting them with the intent of seducing them and having sex with underage girls, they read the messages they send to the "underage girl" and they're always explicit. Most turn up with gifts such as alcohol and condoms. If you think they're having their life ruined, you're right; they deserve it though and the fear this puts into potential would be pedophiles that are trying the same thing makes it safer for children

Oh he went anon, clever.

He obviously became Deadpool. He got like.
Radioactive cancer or some bullshit I can come up with to be right.

OR DID HE?!

You don't flush wipes, you put them in the trash
Plus they sell flushable wipes

Flushable wipes aren't flushable either. They don't break down in water at all and clog the sewers.

If you didn't know, I'm pretty sure it exists already.

Curie, Piper and Cait. Hell to the yes.

But you forgot one thing

Curie is best companion

i had already gotten my P licence but it was only for auto, so later on i went for the manual test (when i had some experience) and i got failed for not checking my mirrors enough - which i obviously was because we didnt hit anything as well as accelerating too fast but withing the speed limit. Told them to go fuck themselves and just drove manual for the next 2 years even though i got a fine literally a week before i was on my full licence for driving manual on an auto licence (if you have an auto licence it gets automatically upgraded to manual when you get full licence). $150 and 3 points

I actually just got done showing my mom. Coolio.

The only movie character who is powerful really is Sidious. The rest and Kinda meh as far as old republic and new jedi order go.

Vader? If we're talking about in terms of force sensitivity.

well im guessing that everyone knows about the movie characters. there are some obscure ones here that most have never even heard of it they didnt look into the EU.

Exactly

Right. But their's no question mark in the post. Just ellipses. That was my point.

Cause you asked one. You even highlighted your question mark. You can't checkmate me when you're in check.

>>#43

You said this in response to my comment here >>#17, where I said "Wow that totally wasn't loaded question as fuck", when referring to the question "So you are against PCs?"

Then you responded with "it wasn't even a question". So I literally repeated the same question to you, putting extra emphasis on the question mark just to prove to you it was in fact a question. You answered the question, proving that "So you are against PCs?" is a question despite what you said.

Does this make sense now?

Right. But their's no question mark in the post. Just ellipses. That was my point.

nah man, I'm using one right now.

See it was question, you just answered it.

Checkmate.

Cause you asked one. You even highlighted your question mark. You can't checkmate me when you're in check.

>>#43

You said this in response to my comment here >>#17, where I said "Wow that totally wasn't loaded question as fuck", when referring to the question "So you are against PCs?"

Then you responded with "it wasn't even a question". So I literally repeated the same question to you, putting extra emphasis on the question mark just to prove to you it was in fact a question. You answered the question, proving that "So you are against PCs?" is a question despite what you said.

Does this make sense now?

Right. But their's no question mark in the post. Just ellipses. That was my point.

I guess its not the reason for him, but some countries/states do require you to wait like 6 months to try again after a failed test because you're obviously a dangerous fuccboi and that isn't going to change overnight (apparently)

I got a horseshit instant fail because I didn't look over my right shoulder (for bicyclists) when I pulled to the curb. I didn't look over my shoulder, because as a human I have spacial awareness. I know there isn't a bicyclist right there, wanna know why? Because I just fucking drove past there like literally 2 seconds ago, there's no one there.

And I got instant failed, and had to wait 2 weeks. That had me furious enough because we didn't even go through the whole test, was done in like 5 minutes. But 6 months? This is some outrageous bullshit.

i had already gotten my P licence but it was only for auto, so later on i went for the manual test (when i had some experience) and i got failed for not checking my mirrors enough - which i obviously was because we didnt hit anything as well as accelerating too fast but withing the speed limit. Told them to go fuck themselves and just drove manual for the next 2 years even though i got a fine literally a week before i was on my full licence for driving manual on an auto licence (if you have an auto licence it gets automatically upgraded to manual when you get full licence). $150 and 3 points

I'm busy until at least late may so around 5 months but even if I weren't, the earliest date is mid April.