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#69 - They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much. The gr…  [+] (29 new replies) 01/06/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -4
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#68 - They say this kind of things in /pol/? Then they rea… 01/06/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -2
#67 - FAULT. Ad Hominem attack. 01/06/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -3
#186 - so it had a positive meaning but now for some people it has a …  [+] (1 new reply) 01/06/2016 on Based carrie 0
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#187 - adrilazzaro (01/06/2016) [-]
i guess? it depends on the context i'd say
#185 - That I'm being honest in what I said 01/06/2016 on Based carrie 0
#37 - Okay, here's the kicker. We're all The Creator. we al…  [+] (44 new replies) 01/06/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -10
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#176 - Bingo.  [+] (1 new reply) 01/06/2016 on Based carrie +1
#184 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
"Based," "down to Earth," "honest to god," etc means this is a person who generally has an objective and fairly logical view of the world.
#175 - Honest to God.  [+] (2 new replies) 01/06/2016 on Based carrie 0
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#182 - HarvietheDinkle (01/06/2016) [-]
What does Honest to God mean?
#185 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
That I'm being honest in what I said
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#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are par…  [+] (3 new replies) 01/06/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -9
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
#29 - You just don't know enough. It's probably a valid conclusion w…  [+] (55 new replies) 01/06/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -16
#30 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
>Implying slavery is a Christian thing
>Implying Christian Church didn't actually improve slaves' situation (maybe not a lot, but better than before)
>Implying you are making any point whatsoever or explaining anything
#35 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, I'm not explaining. hjonestly i'm too lazy for that. I would have to gather sources and explain things to you and maybe you won't even read them or you will reject it all on some reason.

I guess I shouldn't be arguing if that's the case, but I'm using the most basic concusion that are somewhat self-evident once you look with the right eyes.


We obviously have quite a gap between what your concepts and mine mean and view of the world.
#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are part of the slave system.
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
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#96 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
you dont know what 'down to earth means?'
#175 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Honest to God.
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#182 - HarvietheDinkle (01/06/2016) [-]
What does Honest to God mean?
#185 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
That I'm being honest in what I said
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#121 - wraithguard (01/05/2016) [-]
Maybe it's foreign.
#176 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Bingo.
#184 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
"Based," "down to Earth," "honest to god," etc means this is a person who generally has an objective and fairly logical view of the world.
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#90 - frankwest (01/05/2016) [-]
Down to earth means you see things for what they are without emotions and small things clouding your vision. And aren't afraid to talk about things candidly
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#92 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Living example of why you should constantly check your thoughts to make sure they aren't delusional.

Sorry, but you should see a psychologist or something.
#119 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, because random thoughts started appearing in my head and that's how i came up with all of this.


To call yourself delusional when you exit the "official" worldview is a bit... I don't know. Sounds like cult mentality but everyone's in the cult so it's not weird.
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#172 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Internet hoaxes can be very convincing sometimes. I read through some of this "Secret Space Program" you talked about in other comments. Almost believable, though it would make a better sci-fi book than an actual worldview. How the official source kept comparing it to "Battlestar Galactica" and "Star Trek" made me realize how much of a fantasy world he is living in, OR how well he is manipulating the foolish people who believe him.

Good luck man.
#190 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. That's soft disclosure. Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world. Project Paperclip is mentioned in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, for example.


you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses. There are both positive and negative factions right now trying to use those symbol to either control or free the population.



The Matrix is a great example of this, it uses a movie, a fictitious situation to explain the control syste of our world. As V puts it "an artist uses lies to tell the truth".
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#218 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
"Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world"

Always? No. If that were true, then let's find a couple of lightsabers and go on a quest to destroy the ring. I'll assume you meant "sometimes" for your sake, otherwise you'd be implying that no one has any creativity -- which would contradict your other post(>>#37).

"you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses"

I know, which is why I don't get my news from one source and am questioning you so strongly. You very well could be paid by these organizations to 'oversaturate the flow of information' with lies. In fact, it's impossible for anyone to know the truth to almost anything.

You saying "We're all The Creator. We all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace" in that other post(>>#37 again) sounds like something Satan might say to convince me I am 'like god'. So, according to the bible, the end times will be marked by widespread deception. If we are to assume that is correct, you would be a satanist and apart of these 'evil plans'.

>>#189, one the thing: With your perspective, the Discovery channel is also under this evil organization's control. So why are you trusting them? They are likely to be filling your head with lies as well!

Tl;dr: You arguments and logic have holes in them.
#222 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Because there are positive factions and the lower people don't know what the plan is. It could either be that some positive person wanted to talk about those bell aircraft. Oooor, the people who want them secret realized that they had to sacrifice exposing the most obvious and known part of it and say "I know about it. They did have beel aircraft but it never flew properly and everything was confiscated".
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#227 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Or it could be more negative faction propaganda? Anything could be negative or positive faction propaganda. Also, I assume you know that not everything you remote view is reliable, and astral projection as well. If you do that is. With what you were saying, it sounds like you do which is why I thought it important to bring that up.
#229 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It is not. first of ll, your own logic should dictate that if we have a visible Space Program. We're bound to have a hidden aspect of it AT LEAST in which Military Aplication is the goal.

But, we have evidence. From the accounts of whistleblowers, to some historic data. Google the Thule and Vril societies, for example.
#221 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The Bible was wrote by those seeking to control humanity.

The concept goes something like this.

imagine you created little soldiers made of dirth, and you wanted to explore their perspective. you have 3 soldiers. You "extend" 3 points of your consciousness and "put it" inside the soldiers.


now they're alive. They are you. It's you but from a smaller perspective. Each one of them would think of themselves as individuals. they wouldn't remember who they are as you. they would have their own experience and point of view.

At the same time, everything that "they" are experiencing, you're experiencing, because it is your own consciousness.



There's only ONE consciousness. One source. And we're all it, having different experiences.

That's why the GOLDEN RULE has always been in all religions "do onto others as you would have done onto you" because they ARE you.
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#223 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Plausible, and something I've thought about quite a few times before. Where did you learn this, and do you "believe" faith-based this or do you know it to be an undeniable fact? If undeniable fact, can you prove it with sources rather than your words? Any source/link/book/whatever will be acceptable.
#226 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The sources I could use, I guess would be ancient texts. I think Tibetan buddhists have this experience as well through meditation.

Science hasn't been able to discover consciousness in the brain cause it isn't there. but there hasn't been anyone who has been capable of proving it. How would you prove it?

I guess a way would be through DMT. Check Rick Strassman research. the famous "DMT: The Spirit Molecule".



Another way would be the work of Dr. Michael Newton, who through adanced regression therpy was able to access the memory of the soul and have very different subjects (age, nationality, beliefs) all have report back to him that there's indeed a "life between lives".

That proofs the existence of the soul (but that's consciousness with a light body). i guess you'd have to be in the sessions yourself to KNOW he is telling the truth but, my point is that from my perspective, his research validates what I experienced.
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#228 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
I'll watch "The Spirit Molecule" sometime. Would you mind going into what you've experienced?
#230 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Well... inone moment, which was the great realization that I'm consciousness, every false layer of who I believed I was was peeled back. I realize I could've been born with different parents, body, circumstances, everything could change in my life, and yet, there'd still be a constant.

The obsession was to find me, me, me (yo). to be with me, actually.


At what point I had stopped thinking of what the other people where thinking about me, which I wanted to stop and a voice in my head said "you've done it. now you've become part of a special group of intellectuals" something along those lines.


BUT, I recognized the trap. I said NO! why must I always need to try and attach myself to something else, bigger, to feel value? I just want to be me, me, me!



And then it was as if I had broken through or become separated from something invisible and felt completely at peace. I realized I was just a point of consciousness. a point of awareness. That was my real nature. Even my mind was not me, it was just an intrument and thoughts colored the experience with different flavors, but it was just the means for my awareness to have an experience.


I walked out the door and returned with my friends and they were all amazed in my change, they told me even tho they didn't really now what happened. Most curiously also, was that now they were fightng for my attention, and I was just sitting there being completely and naturally at peace.I tell oyu you could've cut off my ar and I would've realized it wasn't me so I wouldn't have suffered. Who knows about the pain, but at least I would know it isn't really me and I'm not being destroyed.


I can't. i can't be divided, cut, destroyed, change. i'm infinite and eternal and that's the great mystery. What pure awareness and consciousness actually is.



Another time it was less extreme but I realized the nature of the NOW. tHAT IT IS ALWAYS NOW AND THE NOW IS ALWAYS IN CREATION (caps came on their own). It's always now now now now now now now and just as this points create a line:


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So to it appears that things that aren't moving are still or they aren't changing while the things that move are changing but that's not true, everything is being created anew in the eternal NOW. So, I realized that the ida of me was just a story I was dragging along from now moment to now moment because it wsn't something that was, intrinsically, of the moment. it was something I carried with me, like a girl running with a kite stringed to her arm.

It was curious that that time I immediatly said "oh, it's god that I'm no longer him" referring to being me, because I realized how heavy I had been, all the weight I'd been carrying. Past failures that needed to be set right and lots of stuff.
#225 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Oh. That we're all consciousness? FACT. Experienced it. Came out of it, though. But you can never truly forget it. Like, right now if you cut my hand I'd go into panic because I'd feel I'm dying even tough it's my human mind giving me that experience. At that moment, I swear you could've taken my arm and I'd be cool because i realized that if it can be taken away then it's not me.

That we're all the same one consciousness. at first I felt it. I just new we were all one. when that feeling disappeared I started to think about it and I realized that it made more sense.

It is not something that can be taught. for example, all the people saying "Namaste" that write "it means I honor your divinity" have no fucking clue of what divinity is.

The divine self is the eternal and infinite self. the real one. And it's all of us. Being the peson you're now is like a dream. Like when in Rick and Morty they play the game... "Rob" was it called?
#219 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
You're an idiot. i can't talk to an idiot. The lightsabers and quest of the ringt are props, you idiot. The essence is the journey. the ring is the representation of power and how it corrupts people.

If you can't understand something so basic then there's no wonder the rest goes over your head.

Eat better and do more exercise and meditate and do emotional work and you'll become more perceptive, maybe it needs cleaning.
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#220 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
It would appear you didn't make it past my first paragraph without getting triggered due to a differing opinion. See here: tinyurl.com/zt7jfve
#224 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It amazed me because it was a very stupid thing to say. How you mentioned lightsabers and the ring.

Of course i'm not using the matrix to say we're living inside a computer. That's a literal interpretation.
#189 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is something that is going on, and it's not just the internet that has given me this information. (BTW, people seem to forget people is free access to ALL types of information. There's truth in it and also a lot of lies that are spread by intelligence agencies in order to muddle the waters. Once you cannot suppress the flow of information you can over-saturate it)



The Nazi Secret Space Program is only a secret in how much it was extended, but the bell-shaped aircraft they had has appeared on the discovery channel. They just didn't go into what they were doing in antarctica, and later how the work ws continued in the US with the nazis brought over through project Paperclip.
#20 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
You call the trivium and and the quadrivium "primitive knowledge"? Again, you have no idea what are you talking about. The trivium is a method of critical thinking and the quadrivium are the teachings of arts. You say many theories were faulty back then, but so are many that are coming today and so were many that came before those in the Medieval Ages. Errare humanum est and it has nothing to do with Religion but with our own nature.

Of course there was control by the Catholic authorities to the population, that shit is obvious. Of course many "heretics" weren't but political enemies (see the crusade called to John Lackland). Of course there was a control on the knowledge and even censorship. But they did not seek to "supress" knowledge. They wanted to preserve it and manipulate it. Most of the knowledge was lost not because of Christian intervention, but after the barbarian tribes broke into Rome settled there. Why do you think the "purge" didn't start earlier? Rome was Christian before those amounts of knowledge were lost.

I'm not theologian, you are brining up theology issues to a history matter. Also "I dont have a good reference because I was taught the history they teach me" fucking lel. Now this is when I know I'm talking with a delusional. I "haven't been taught" mindlessly as you want to put it, I've been told to read, I've been told to criticize, I've been told to investigate. I've been told to never say anything for sure. Could I be wrong? For sure. Could you be right? I guess. But the thing is, most sources are backing me up and honestly, you sound like one of those conspiracy theoricals, a person who prefers to believe. You can believe whatever you want, but I won't bother in trying to make you think otherwise because obviously I can't just throw facts at you and expect you to believe them since we are talking about beliefs: your beliefs.
#29 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
You just don't know enough. It's probably a valid conclusion with the information you have at hand.

how can i explain slavery and suppression of human potential to someone who has learned to see it as normal?
#30 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
>Implying slavery is a Christian thing
>Implying Christian Church didn't actually improve slaves' situation (maybe not a lot, but better than before)
>Implying you are making any point whatsoever or explaining anything
#35 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, I'm not explaining. hjonestly i'm too lazy for that. I would have to gather sources and explain things to you and maybe you won't even read them or you will reject it all on some reason.

I guess I shouldn't be arguing if that's the case, but I'm using the most basic concusion that are somewhat self-evident once you look with the right eyes.


We obviously have quite a gap between what your concepts and mine mean and view of the world.
#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are part of the slave system.
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
#28 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Hahaha

"Of Course we live in a Prison Planet, get over it"
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#21 - bigbadpapaboris (01/05/2016) [-]
you bring me back to not so long ago when I too was too a narrowminded "the church ruined the world" guy. Only recently I noticed how stupid I was. Continue spreading knoledge my friend, god speed.
#187 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Why can't you idiots see you're projecting?

Im not saying the Church ruined the world. I'm saying it was one of the instruments the controllers of this world used to further enslave humanity. All religions. The media is used for that purpose too. governmental structures too. the financial system.

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#231 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Even if this was true, what are you going to do about it? Just get along and be content of what you have a thi point, do charity if you want to help the others, there's nothing else you can do about it mate.
#232 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Of course there is. i was born to help in the planetary liberation. which you can do by liberating yourself. do emotional work, most of us are taught to suppress our emotions and literally carry within us a lot of suppressed emotional energy and that affects our ability to feel. also, heal your mind from their mental programs (beliefs).

In short, the greatest way to help in the liberation is to connect with your own inner guidance and rid yourself of everything that isn't you.
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#233 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Ok, now I'm gonna scientifically analize this situation :
You are a :
-1 Troll (Most accredited)
-2 Vegan Buhddihist Bush-did-9/11 Edgelord
-3 A guy who injected too many Marijuanas

C'mon man, stop wasting my time, bring up real shit or don't even bother responding.
#234 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
it is amazing. I'm not of that. but you seem to be hungry for labeling me and putting me in one of your boxes of preconceived notions so that you can invalidate me and feel good and go about your day.

I'm not gonna force you to change your mind. Have a good weekend.
#17 - This isn't even hidden history. You never heard of the inquisition?  [+] (90 new replies) 01/05/2016 on Kissass Facts 3 -21
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#56 - vorarephilia (01/06/2016) [-]
Yes, but I never expect them.
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#18 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Burning heretics != "supress human evolution, distort the teaching of the Christ and use them as mind control for the population. Suppress knowledge".

Did you know the Church is the reason we have universities and high, critical and analytical education? I'm sure you didn't. Why are you brining up the inquisition here? It has nothing to do with the topic.
#116 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Actually, universities came to be in medieval times as state-run enterprises that allowed wealthy to gain education that allowed them to pursue positions of greater importance than what apprenticeships allowed.

The base for universities were libraries of church, (more like an inspiration, to have a place to gather, pass and concentrate knowledge) but by the time universities came to be called universities, they were pretty much enterprises independent from church, although theology was one of the subjects taught at all and every single university.

The fact is that Church tried to destroy any knowledge and theories that could potentially shaken the foundation of its teachings.
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#141 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authentica_habita

I forgot to say that Barbarossa was also important but as you can see, the Pope Alexander III also backed up. If it wasn't by him, that wouldn't have been possible.
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#134 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
No, the Church create the universitas and the popes themselves promoted them. Check it out.
#96 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
I remember hearing that the church is also the reason we have modern hospitals. Most early hospitals were actually religious clinics. That's where the cross comes from.
#117 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, there were independent medical doctors in medieval times, but yeah, one of the purposes of the church was to take care of sick and wounded. There was also an order called Hospitaliers, who specialized in providing things like protection and medical aid to European pilgrims traveling to Jerusalem.
#19 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
"Heretic" was just the favorite word of the time, like terrorist is today, to target people as the enemies so you can basically do whatever you want to them with the consent of people.

The mind control is the same and fear that is programmed into them (subconscious mind) through their parents and society. Example of the beliefs/programms:

-You're not worthy of good things, you must go through pain to cleanse yourself and deserve good.

-You're wrong (original sin)

-you must feel shame and guilt

-if you don't do good (what we tell you) you will go to Hell for an eternity

-feeding superstition in other ways like paying to have your sins removed

Yeah, the Jesuits have influenced the human population through their universities.


What you call higher knowledge is actually shit, primitive knowledge and some faulty theories (i'm mostly aware of the economic ones but some say, for example, the 2nd law of thermodinamics is wrong because it makes it seem as if tho free energy is impossible and super-luminal speed is impossible too)


When the planet is liberated from those controllers we will have real knowledge that involves consciousness and you will see hoe primitively we were living. you just don't have a good point of reference for example, just the manufactured version of history they teach you so you think you're living at the very edge of human progress.
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#92 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Living example of why you should constantly check your thoughts to make sure they aren't delusional.

Sorry, but you should see a psychologist or something.
#119 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, because random thoughts started appearing in my head and that's how i came up with all of this.


To call yourself delusional when you exit the "official" worldview is a bit... I don't know. Sounds like cult mentality but everyone's in the cult so it's not weird.
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#172 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Internet hoaxes can be very convincing sometimes. I read through some of this "Secret Space Program" you talked about in other comments. Almost believable, though it would make a better sci-fi book than an actual worldview. How the official source kept comparing it to "Battlestar Galactica" and "Star Trek" made me realize how much of a fantasy world he is living in, OR how well he is manipulating the foolish people who believe him.

Good luck man.
#190 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. That's soft disclosure. Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world. Project Paperclip is mentioned in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, for example.


you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses. There are both positive and negative factions right now trying to use those symbol to either control or free the population.



The Matrix is a great example of this, it uses a movie, a fictitious situation to explain the control syste of our world. As V puts it "an artist uses lies to tell the truth".
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#218 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
"Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world"

Always? No. If that were true, then let's find a couple of lightsabers and go on a quest to destroy the ring. I'll assume you meant "sometimes" for your sake, otherwise you'd be implying that no one has any creativity -- which would contradict your other post(>>#37).

"you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses"

I know, which is why I don't get my news from one source and am questioning you so strongly. You very well could be paid by these organizations to 'oversaturate the flow of information' with lies. In fact, it's impossible for anyone to know the truth to almost anything.

You saying "We're all The Creator. We all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace" in that other post(>>#37 again) sounds like something Satan might say to convince me I am 'like god'. So, according to the bible, the end times will be marked by widespread deception. If we are to assume that is correct, you would be a satanist and apart of these 'evil plans'.

>>#189, one the thing: With your perspective, the Discovery channel is also under this evil organization's control. So why are you trusting them? They are likely to be filling your head with lies as well!

Tl;dr: You arguments and logic have holes in them.
#222 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Because there are positive factions and the lower people don't know what the plan is. It could either be that some positive person wanted to talk about those bell aircraft. Oooor, the people who want them secret realized that they had to sacrifice exposing the most obvious and known part of it and say "I know about it. They did have beel aircraft but it never flew properly and everything was confiscated".
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#227 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Or it could be more negative faction propaganda? Anything could be negative or positive faction propaganda. Also, I assume you know that not everything you remote view is reliable, and astral projection as well. If you do that is. With what you were saying, it sounds like you do which is why I thought it important to bring that up.
#229 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It is not. first of ll, your own logic should dictate that if we have a visible Space Program. We're bound to have a hidden aspect of it AT LEAST in which Military Aplication is the goal.

But, we have evidence. From the accounts of whistleblowers, to some historic data. Google the Thule and Vril societies, for example.
#221 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The Bible was wrote by those seeking to control humanity.

The concept goes something like this.

imagine you created little soldiers made of dirth, and you wanted to explore their perspective. you have 3 soldiers. You "extend" 3 points of your consciousness and "put it" inside the soldiers.


now they're alive. They are you. It's you but from a smaller perspective. Each one of them would think of themselves as individuals. they wouldn't remember who they are as you. they would have their own experience and point of view.

At the same time, everything that "they" are experiencing, you're experiencing, because it is your own consciousness.



There's only ONE consciousness. One source. And we're all it, having different experiences.

That's why the GOLDEN RULE has always been in all religions "do onto others as you would have done onto you" because they ARE you.
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#223 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Plausible, and something I've thought about quite a few times before. Where did you learn this, and do you "believe" faith-based this or do you know it to be an undeniable fact? If undeniable fact, can you prove it with sources rather than your words? Any source/link/book/whatever will be acceptable.
#226 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The sources I could use, I guess would be ancient texts. I think Tibetan buddhists have this experience as well through meditation.

Science hasn't been able to discover consciousness in the brain cause it isn't there. but there hasn't been anyone who has been capable of proving it. How would you prove it?

I guess a way would be through DMT. Check Rick Strassman research. the famous "DMT: The Spirit Molecule".



Another way would be the work of Dr. Michael Newton, who through adanced regression therpy was able to access the memory of the soul and have very different subjects (age, nationality, beliefs) all have report back to him that there's indeed a "life between lives".

That proofs the existence of the soul (but that's consciousness with a light body). i guess you'd have to be in the sessions yourself to KNOW he is telling the truth but, my point is that from my perspective, his research validates what I experienced.
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#228 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
I'll watch "The Spirit Molecule" sometime. Would you mind going into what you've experienced?
#230 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Well... inone moment, which was the great realization that I'm consciousness, every false layer of who I believed I was was peeled back. I realize I could've been born with different parents, body, circumstances, everything could change in my life, and yet, there'd still be a constant.

The obsession was to find me, me, me (yo). to be with me, actually.


At what point I had stopped thinking of what the other people where thinking about me, which I wanted to stop and a voice in my head said "you've done it. now you've become part of a special group of intellectuals" something along those lines.


BUT, I recognized the trap. I said NO! why must I always need to try and attach myself to something else, bigger, to feel value? I just want to be me, me, me!



And then it was as if I had broken through or become separated from something invisible and felt completely at peace. I realized I was just a point of consciousness. a point of awareness. That was my real nature. Even my mind was not me, it was just an intrument and thoughts colored the experience with different flavors, but it was just the means for my awareness to have an experience.


I walked out the door and returned with my friends and they were all amazed in my change, they told me even tho they didn't really now what happened. Most curiously also, was that now they were fightng for my attention, and I was just sitting there being completely and naturally at peace.I tell oyu you could've cut off my ar and I would've realized it wasn't me so I wouldn't have suffered. Who knows about the pain, but at least I would know it isn't really me and I'm not being destroyed.


I can't. i can't be divided, cut, destroyed, change. i'm infinite and eternal and that's the great mystery. What pure awareness and consciousness actually is.



Another time it was less extreme but I realized the nature of the NOW. tHAT IT IS ALWAYS NOW AND THE NOW IS ALWAYS IN CREATION (caps came on their own). It's always now now now now now now now and just as this points create a line:


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So to it appears that things that aren't moving are still or they aren't changing while the things that move are changing but that's not true, everything is being created anew in the eternal NOW. So, I realized that the ida of me was just a story I was dragging along from now moment to now moment because it wsn't something that was, intrinsically, of the moment. it was something I carried with me, like a girl running with a kite stringed to her arm.

It was curious that that time I immediatly said "oh, it's god that I'm no longer him" referring to being me, because I realized how heavy I had been, all the weight I'd been carrying. Past failures that needed to be set right and lots of stuff.
#225 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Oh. That we're all consciousness? FACT. Experienced it. Came out of it, though. But you can never truly forget it. Like, right now if you cut my hand I'd go into panic because I'd feel I'm dying even tough it's my human mind giving me that experience. At that moment, I swear you could've taken my arm and I'd be cool because i realized that if it can be taken away then it's not me.

That we're all the same one consciousness. at first I felt it. I just new we were all one. when that feeling disappeared I started to think about it and I realized that it made more sense.

It is not something that can be taught. for example, all the people saying "Namaste" that write "it means I honor your divinity" have no fucking clue of what divinity is.

The divine self is the eternal and infinite self. the real one. And it's all of us. Being the peson you're now is like a dream. Like when in Rick and Morty they play the game... "Rob" was it called?
#219 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
You're an idiot. i can't talk to an idiot. The lightsabers and quest of the ringt are props, you idiot. The essence is the journey. the ring is the representation of power and how it corrupts people.

If you can't understand something so basic then there's no wonder the rest goes over your head.

Eat better and do more exercise and meditate and do emotional work and you'll become more perceptive, maybe it needs cleaning.
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#220 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
It would appear you didn't make it past my first paragraph without getting triggered due to a differing opinion. See here: tinyurl.com/zt7jfve
#224 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It amazed me because it was a very stupid thing to say. How you mentioned lightsabers and the ring.

Of course i'm not using the matrix to say we're living inside a computer. That's a literal interpretation.
#189 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is something that is going on, and it's not just the internet that has given me this information. (BTW, people seem to forget people is free access to ALL types of information. There's truth in it and also a lot of lies that are spread by intelligence agencies in order to muddle the waters. Once you cannot suppress the flow of information you can over-saturate it)



The Nazi Secret Space Program is only a secret in how much it was extended, but the bell-shaped aircraft they had has appeared on the discovery channel. They just didn't go into what they were doing in antarctica, and later how the work ws continued in the US with the nazis brought over through project Paperclip.
#20 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
You call the trivium and and the quadrivium "primitive knowledge"? Again, you have no idea what are you talking about. The trivium is a method of critical thinking and the quadrivium are the teachings of arts. You say many theories were faulty back then, but so are many that are coming today and so were many that came before those in the Medieval Ages. Errare humanum est and it has nothing to do with Religion but with our own nature.

Of course there was control by the Catholic authorities to the population, that shit is obvious. Of course many "heretics" weren't but political enemies (see the crusade called to John Lackland). Of course there was a control on the knowledge and even censorship. But they did not seek to "supress" knowledge. They wanted to preserve it and manipulate it. Most of the knowledge was lost not because of Christian intervention, but after the barbarian tribes broke into Rome settled there. Why do you think the "purge" didn't start earlier? Rome was Christian before those amounts of knowledge were lost.

I'm not theologian, you are brining up theology issues to a history matter. Also "I dont have a good reference because I was taught the history they teach me" fucking lel. Now this is when I know I'm talking with a delusional. I "haven't been taught" mindlessly as you want to put it, I've been told to read, I've been told to criticize, I've been told to investigate. I've been told to never say anything for sure. Could I be wrong? For sure. Could you be right? I guess. But the thing is, most sources are backing me up and honestly, you sound like one of those conspiracy theoricals, a person who prefers to believe. You can believe whatever you want, but I won't bother in trying to make you think otherwise because obviously I can't just throw facts at you and expect you to believe them since we are talking about beliefs: your beliefs.
#29 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
You just don't know enough. It's probably a valid conclusion with the information you have at hand.

how can i explain slavery and suppression of human potential to someone who has learned to see it as normal?
#30 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
>Implying slavery is a Christian thing
>Implying Christian Church didn't actually improve slaves' situation (maybe not a lot, but better than before)
>Implying you are making any point whatsoever or explaining anything
#35 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, I'm not explaining. hjonestly i'm too lazy for that. I would have to gather sources and explain things to you and maybe you won't even read them or you will reject it all on some reason.

I guess I shouldn't be arguing if that's the case, but I'm using the most basic concusion that are somewhat self-evident once you look with the right eyes.


We obviously have quite a gap between what your concepts and mine mean and view of the world.
#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are part of the slave system.
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
#28 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Hahaha

"Of Course we live in a Prison Planet, get over it"
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#21 - bigbadpapaboris (01/05/2016) [-]
you bring me back to not so long ago when I too was too a narrowminded "the church ruined the world" guy. Only recently I noticed how stupid I was. Continue spreading knoledge my friend, god speed.
#187 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Why can't you idiots see you're projecting?

Im not saying the Church ruined the world. I'm saying it was one of the instruments the controllers of this world used to further enslave humanity. All religions. The media is used for that purpose too. governmental structures too. the financial system.

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#231 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Even if this was true, what are you going to do about it? Just get along and be content of what you have a thi point, do charity if you want to help the others, there's nothing else you can do about it mate.
#232 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Of course there is. i was born to help in the planetary liberation. which you can do by liberating yourself. do emotional work, most of us are taught to suppress our emotions and literally carry within us a lot of suppressed emotional energy and that affects our ability to feel. also, heal your mind from their mental programs (beliefs).

In short, the greatest way to help in the liberation is to connect with your own inner guidance and rid yourself of everything that isn't you.
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#233 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Ok, now I'm gonna scientifically analize this situation :
You are a :
-1 Troll (Most accredited)
-2 Vegan Buhddihist Bush-did-9/11 Edgelord
-3 A guy who injected too many Marijuanas

C'mon man, stop wasting my time, bring up real shit or don't even bother responding.
#234 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
it is amazing. I'm not of that. but you seem to be hungry for labeling me and putting me in one of your boxes of preconceived notions so that you can invalidate me and feel good and go about your day.

I'm not gonna force you to change your mind. Have a good weekend.
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#81 - ZenMacros (01/05/2016) [-]
Basically just a synonym for awesome.
#87 - fverxes (01/05/2016) [-]
Basic. Like not dreamy or far from reality
#89 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Though you're not wrong, the internet has sort of agreed that "basic" means run-of-the-mill, bandwagoning normie.
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#116 - adrilazzaro (01/05/2016) [-]
well basic now means 'simple minded' in a way
#186 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
so it had a positive meaning but now for some people it has a negative connotation?
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#187 - adrilazzaro (01/06/2016) [-]
i guess? it depends on the context i'd say
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
thanks
#80 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
A down to earth person. Someone who doesnt give a shit about what others think.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
what's "down to earth"? is it synonymous with "not giving a fuck"?
#96 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
you dont know what 'down to earth means?'
#175 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Honest to God.
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#182 - HarvietheDinkle (01/06/2016) [-]
What does Honest to God mean?
#185 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
That I'm being honest in what I said
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#121 - wraithguard (01/05/2016) [-]
Maybe it's foreign.
#176 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Bingo.
#184 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
"Based," "down to Earth," "honest to god," etc means this is a person who generally has an objective and fairly logical view of the world.
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#90 - frankwest (01/05/2016) [-]
Down to earth means you see things for what they are without emotions and small things clouding your vision. And aren't afraid to talk about things candidly
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#66 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
You dropped your tinfoil hat buddy.
#67 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
FAULT. Ad Hominem attack.
#16 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Uh... sure, buddy.
#112 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, he isn't entirely wrong though. They burned people for saying that the earth is round and that the sun is the center of our solar system, along with calling stuff like herbology witchcraft.
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#139 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Also, I never claimed they didn't "censor" nor "control" knowledge. What I'm saying here is they sure did not want to "suppress" knowledge as a whole. That's retarded.
#173 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]

I mean yeah, you are not technically wrong, but most of their so called education extended only mostly on languages, reading writing and theology. Subjects like astrology and just about any knowledge that could threaten the fundamentals of theology were still closely controlled, and ideas and theories of those topics were often called heresy by church.

Oppression and threatening free thinkers is still called suppression of knowledge in my book. I call that censorship.
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#174 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Not at all, even when it wasn't against christian canon, the interest towards eastern medicine and other issues, that may be considered "heretic" by the most purists, growed at a very important rate. The thing is, we tend to consider the society as a monolitic entity and we have to understand that it was not.

I'm not trying to say the Medieval times was a paradise for the free thinking whatsoever, but it was not as oppresive as one could think.
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#135 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
I might be wrong but I'm almost 100% sure nobody got burned by saying the earth was round. Excommunicated? I believe so. Threatened? Yeah. Burned? I'm almost sure it was not the case.
#17 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
This isn't even hidden history. You never heard of the inquisition?
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#56 - vorarephilia (01/06/2016) [-]
Yes, but I never expect them.
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#18 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Burning heretics != "supress human evolution, distort the teaching of the Christ and use them as mind control for the population. Suppress knowledge".

Did you know the Church is the reason we have universities and high, critical and analytical education? I'm sure you didn't. Why are you brining up the inquisition here? It has nothing to do with the topic.
#116 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Actually, universities came to be in medieval times as state-run enterprises that allowed wealthy to gain education that allowed them to pursue positions of greater importance than what apprenticeships allowed.

The base for universities were libraries of church, (more like an inspiration, to have a place to gather, pass and concentrate knowledge) but by the time universities came to be called universities, they were pretty much enterprises independent from church, although theology was one of the subjects taught at all and every single university.

The fact is that Church tried to destroy any knowledge and theories that could potentially shaken the foundation of its teachings.
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#141 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authentica_habita

I forgot to say that Barbarossa was also important but as you can see, the Pope Alexander III also backed up. If it wasn't by him, that wouldn't have been possible.
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#134 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
No, the Church create the universitas and the popes themselves promoted them. Check it out.
#96 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
I remember hearing that the church is also the reason we have modern hospitals. Most early hospitals were actually religious clinics. That's where the cross comes from.
#117 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, there were independent medical doctors in medieval times, but yeah, one of the purposes of the church was to take care of sick and wounded. There was also an order called Hospitaliers, who specialized in providing things like protection and medical aid to European pilgrims traveling to Jerusalem.
#19 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
"Heretic" was just the favorite word of the time, like terrorist is today, to target people as the enemies so you can basically do whatever you want to them with the consent of people.

The mind control is the same and fear that is programmed into them (subconscious mind) through their parents and society. Example of the beliefs/programms:

-You're not worthy of good things, you must go through pain to cleanse yourself and deserve good.

-You're wrong (original sin)

-you must feel shame and guilt

-if you don't do good (what we tell you) you will go to Hell for an eternity

-feeding superstition in other ways like paying to have your sins removed

Yeah, the Jesuits have influenced the human population through their universities.


What you call higher knowledge is actually shit, primitive knowledge and some faulty theories (i'm mostly aware of the economic ones but some say, for example, the 2nd law of thermodinamics is wrong because it makes it seem as if tho free energy is impossible and super-luminal speed is impossible too)


When the planet is liberated from those controllers we will have real knowledge that involves consciousness and you will see hoe primitively we were living. you just don't have a good point of reference for example, just the manufactured version of history they teach you so you think you're living at the very edge of human progress.
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#92 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Living example of why you should constantly check your thoughts to make sure they aren't delusional.

Sorry, but you should see a psychologist or something.
#119 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, because random thoughts started appearing in my head and that's how i came up with all of this.


To call yourself delusional when you exit the "official" worldview is a bit... I don't know. Sounds like cult mentality but everyone's in the cult so it's not weird.
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#172 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Internet hoaxes can be very convincing sometimes. I read through some of this "Secret Space Program" you talked about in other comments. Almost believable, though it would make a better sci-fi book than an actual worldview. How the official source kept comparing it to "Battlestar Galactica" and "Star Trek" made me realize how much of a fantasy world he is living in, OR how well he is manipulating the foolish people who believe him.

Good luck man.
#190 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. That's soft disclosure. Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world. Project Paperclip is mentioned in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, for example.


you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses. There are both positive and negative factions right now trying to use those symbol to either control or free the population.



The Matrix is a great example of this, it uses a movie, a fictitious situation to explain the control syste of our world. As V puts it "an artist uses lies to tell the truth".
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#218 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
"Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world"

Always? No. If that were true, then let's find a couple of lightsabers and go on a quest to destroy the ring. I'll assume you meant "sometimes" for your sake, otherwise you'd be implying that no one has any creativity -- which would contradict your other post(>>#37).

"you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses"

I know, which is why I don't get my news from one source and am questioning you so strongly. You very well could be paid by these organizations to 'oversaturate the flow of information' with lies. In fact, it's impossible for anyone to know the truth to almost anything.

You saying "We're all The Creator. We all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace" in that other post(>>#37 again) sounds like something Satan might say to convince me I am 'like god'. So, according to the bible, the end times will be marked by widespread deception. If we are to assume that is correct, you would be a satanist and apart of these 'evil plans'.

>>#189, one the thing: With your perspective, the Discovery channel is also under this evil organization's control. So why are you trusting them? They are likely to be filling your head with lies as well!

Tl;dr: You arguments and logic have holes in them.
#222 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Because there are positive factions and the lower people don't know what the plan is. It could either be that some positive person wanted to talk about those bell aircraft. Oooor, the people who want them secret realized that they had to sacrifice exposing the most obvious and known part of it and say "I know about it. They did have beel aircraft but it never flew properly and everything was confiscated".
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#227 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Or it could be more negative faction propaganda? Anything could be negative or positive faction propaganda. Also, I assume you know that not everything you remote view is reliable, and astral projection as well. If you do that is. With what you were saying, it sounds like you do which is why I thought it important to bring that up.
#229 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It is not. first of ll, your own logic should dictate that if we have a visible Space Program. We're bound to have a hidden aspect of it AT LEAST in which Military Aplication is the goal.

But, we have evidence. From the accounts of whistleblowers, to some historic data. Google the Thule and Vril societies, for example.
#221 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The Bible was wrote by those seeking to control humanity.

The concept goes something like this.

imagine you created little soldiers made of dirth, and you wanted to explore their perspective. you have 3 soldiers. You "extend" 3 points of your consciousness and "put it" inside the soldiers.


now they're alive. They are you. It's you but from a smaller perspective. Each one of them would think of themselves as individuals. they wouldn't remember who they are as you. they would have their own experience and point of view.

At the same time, everything that "they" are experiencing, you're experiencing, because it is your own consciousness.



There's only ONE consciousness. One source. And we're all it, having different experiences.

That's why the GOLDEN RULE has always been in all religions "do onto others as you would have done onto you" because they ARE you.
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#223 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Plausible, and something I've thought about quite a few times before. Where did you learn this, and do you "believe" faith-based this or do you know it to be an undeniable fact? If undeniable fact, can you prove it with sources rather than your words? Any source/link/book/whatever will be acceptable.
#226 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The sources I could use, I guess would be ancient texts. I think Tibetan buddhists have this experience as well through meditation.

Science hasn't been able to discover consciousness in the brain cause it isn't there. but there hasn't been anyone who has been capable of proving it. How would you prove it?

I guess a way would be through DMT. Check Rick Strassman research. the famous "DMT: The Spirit Molecule".



Another way would be the work of Dr. Michael Newton, who through adanced regression therpy was able to access the memory of the soul and have very different subjects (age, nationality, beliefs) all have report back to him that there's indeed a "life between lives".

That proofs the existence of the soul (but that's consciousness with a light body). i guess you'd have to be in the sessions yourself to KNOW he is telling the truth but, my point is that from my perspective, his research validates what I experienced.
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#228 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
I'll watch "The Spirit Molecule" sometime. Would you mind going into what you've experienced?
#230 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Well... inone moment, which was the great realization that I'm consciousness, every false layer of who I believed I was was peeled back. I realize I could've been born with different parents, body, circumstances, everything could change in my life, and yet, there'd still be a constant.

The obsession was to find me, me, me (yo). to be with me, actually.


At what point I had stopped thinking of what the other people where thinking about me, which I wanted to stop and a voice in my head said "you've done it. now you've become part of a special group of intellectuals" something along those lines.


BUT, I recognized the trap. I said NO! why must I always need to try and attach myself to something else, bigger, to feel value? I just want to be me, me, me!



And then it was as if I had broken through or become separated from something invisible and felt completely at peace. I realized I was just a point of consciousness. a point of awareness. That was my real nature. Even my mind was not me, it was just an intrument and thoughts colored the experience with different flavors, but it was just the means for my awareness to have an experience.


I walked out the door and returned with my friends and they were all amazed in my change, they told me even tho they didn't really now what happened. Most curiously also, was that now they were fightng for my attention, and I was just sitting there being completely and naturally at peace.I tell oyu you could've cut off my ar and I would've realized it wasn't me so I wouldn't have suffered. Who knows about the pain, but at least I would know it isn't really me and I'm not being destroyed.


I can't. i can't be divided, cut, destroyed, change. i'm infinite and eternal and that's the great mystery. What pure awareness and consciousness actually is.



Another time it was less extreme but I realized the nature of the NOW. tHAT IT IS ALWAYS NOW AND THE NOW IS ALWAYS IN CREATION (caps came on their own). It's always now now now now now now now and just as this points create a line:


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So to it appears that things that aren't moving are still or they aren't changing while the things that move are changing but that's not true, everything is being created anew in the eternal NOW. So, I realized that the ida of me was just a story I was dragging along from now moment to now moment because it wsn't something that was, intrinsically, of the moment. it was something I carried with me, like a girl running with a kite stringed to her arm.

It was curious that that time I immediatly said "oh, it's god that I'm no longer him" referring to being me, because I realized how heavy I had been, all the weight I'd been carrying. Past failures that needed to be set right and lots of stuff.
#225 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Oh. That we're all consciousness? FACT. Experienced it. Came out of it, though. But you can never truly forget it. Like, right now if you cut my hand I'd go into panic because I'd feel I'm dying even tough it's my human mind giving me that experience. At that moment, I swear you could've taken my arm and I'd be cool because i realized that if it can be taken away then it's not me.

That we're all the same one consciousness. at first I felt it. I just new we were all one. when that feeling disappeared I started to think about it and I realized that it made more sense.

It is not something that can be taught. for example, all the people saying "Namaste" that write "it means I honor your divinity" have no fucking clue of what divinity is.

The divine self is the eternal and infinite self. the real one. And it's all of us. Being the peson you're now is like a dream. Like when in Rick and Morty they play the game... "Rob" was it called?
#219 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
You're an idiot. i can't talk to an idiot. The lightsabers and quest of the ringt are props, you idiot. The essence is the journey. the ring is the representation of power and how it corrupts people.

If you can't understand something so basic then there's no wonder the rest goes over your head.

Eat better and do more exercise and meditate and do emotional work and you'll become more perceptive, maybe it needs cleaning.
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#220 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
It would appear you didn't make it past my first paragraph without getting triggered due to a differing opinion. See here: tinyurl.com/zt7jfve
#224 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It amazed me because it was a very stupid thing to say. How you mentioned lightsabers and the ring.

Of course i'm not using the matrix to say we're living inside a computer. That's a literal interpretation.
#189 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is something that is going on, and it's not just the internet that has given me this information. (BTW, people seem to forget people is free access to ALL types of information. There's truth in it and also a lot of lies that are spread by intelligence agencies in order to muddle the waters. Once you cannot suppress the flow of information you can over-saturate it)



The Nazi Secret Space Program is only a secret in how much it was extended, but the bell-shaped aircraft they had has appeared on the discovery channel. They just didn't go into what they were doing in antarctica, and later how the work ws continued in the US with the nazis brought over through project Paperclip.
#20 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
You call the trivium and and the quadrivium "primitive knowledge"? Again, you have no idea what are you talking about. The trivium is a method of critical thinking and the quadrivium are the teachings of arts. You say many theories were faulty back then, but so are many that are coming today and so were many that came before those in the Medieval Ages. Errare humanum est and it has nothing to do with Religion but with our own nature.

Of course there was control by the Catholic authorities to the population, that shit is obvious. Of course many "heretics" weren't but political enemies (see the crusade called to John Lackland). Of course there was a control on the knowledge and even censorship. But they did not seek to "supress" knowledge. They wanted to preserve it and manipulate it. Most of the knowledge was lost not because of Christian intervention, but after the barbarian tribes broke into Rome settled there. Why do you think the "purge" didn't start earlier? Rome was Christian before those amounts of knowledge were lost.

I'm not theologian, you are brining up theology issues to a history matter. Also "I dont have a good reference because I was taught the history they teach me" fucking lel. Now this is when I know I'm talking with a delusional. I "haven't been taught" mindlessly as you want to put it, I've been told to read, I've been told to criticize, I've been told to investigate. I've been told to never say anything for sure. Could I be wrong? For sure. Could you be right? I guess. But the thing is, most sources are backing me up and honestly, you sound like one of those conspiracy theoricals, a person who prefers to believe. You can believe whatever you want, but I won't bother in trying to make you think otherwise because obviously I can't just throw facts at you and expect you to believe them since we are talking about beliefs: your beliefs.
#29 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
You just don't know enough. It's probably a valid conclusion with the information you have at hand.

how can i explain slavery and suppression of human potential to someone who has learned to see it as normal?
#30 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
>Implying slavery is a Christian thing
>Implying Christian Church didn't actually improve slaves' situation (maybe not a lot, but better than before)
>Implying you are making any point whatsoever or explaining anything
#35 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, I'm not explaining. hjonestly i'm too lazy for that. I would have to gather sources and explain things to you and maybe you won't even read them or you will reject it all on some reason.

I guess I shouldn't be arguing if that's the case, but I'm using the most basic concusion that are somewhat self-evident once you look with the right eyes.


We obviously have quite a gap between what your concepts and mine mean and view of the world.
#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are part of the slave system.
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
#28 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Hahaha

"Of Course we live in a Prison Planet, get over it"
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#21 - bigbadpapaboris (01/05/2016) [-]
you bring me back to not so long ago when I too was too a narrowminded "the church ruined the world" guy. Only recently I noticed how stupid I was. Continue spreading knoledge my friend, god speed.
#187 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Why can't you idiots see you're projecting?

Im not saying the Church ruined the world. I'm saying it was one of the instruments the controllers of this world used to further enslave humanity. All religions. The media is used for that purpose too. governmental structures too. the financial system.

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#231 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Even if this was true, what are you going to do about it? Just get along and be content of what you have a thi point, do charity if you want to help the others, there's nothing else you can do about it mate.
#232 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Of course there is. i was born to help in the planetary liberation. which you can do by liberating yourself. do emotional work, most of us are taught to suppress our emotions and literally carry within us a lot of suppressed emotional energy and that affects our ability to feel. also, heal your mind from their mental programs (beliefs).

In short, the greatest way to help in the liberation is to connect with your own inner guidance and rid yourself of everything that isn't you.
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#233 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Ok, now I'm gonna scientifically analize this situation :
You are a :
-1 Troll (Most accredited)
-2 Vegan Buhddihist Bush-did-9/11 Edgelord
-3 A guy who injected too many Marijuanas

C'mon man, stop wasting my time, bring up real shit or don't even bother responding.
#234 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
it is amazing. I'm not of that. but you seem to be hungry for labeling me and putting me in one of your boxes of preconceived notions so that you can invalidate me and feel good and go about your day.

I'm not gonna force you to change your mind. Have a good weekend.
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#13 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
"Light forces creating a positive situation out of the negative situation..."

What does being a heretic have to do with anything, anyway?
#15 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
The Vatican is Rome's child btw. Its task was to suppress human evolution, distort the teachings of the Christ and use them as mind control for the population. Suppress knowledge.
#66 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
You dropped your tinfoil hat buddy.
#67 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
FAULT. Ad Hominem attack.
#16 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Uh... sure, buddy.
#112 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, he isn't entirely wrong though. They burned people for saying that the earth is round and that the sun is the center of our solar system, along with calling stuff like herbology witchcraft.
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#139 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Also, I never claimed they didn't "censor" nor "control" knowledge. What I'm saying here is they sure did not want to "suppress" knowledge as a whole. That's retarded.
#173 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]

I mean yeah, you are not technically wrong, but most of their so called education extended only mostly on languages, reading writing and theology. Subjects like astrology and just about any knowledge that could threaten the fundamentals of theology were still closely controlled, and ideas and theories of those topics were often called heresy by church.

Oppression and threatening free thinkers is still called suppression of knowledge in my book. I call that censorship.
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#174 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Not at all, even when it wasn't against christian canon, the interest towards eastern medicine and other issues, that may be considered "heretic" by the most purists, growed at a very important rate. The thing is, we tend to consider the society as a monolitic entity and we have to understand that it was not.

I'm not trying to say the Medieval times was a paradise for the free thinking whatsoever, but it was not as oppresive as one could think.
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#135 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
I might be wrong but I'm almost 100% sure nobody got burned by saying the earth was round. Excommunicated? I believe so. Threatened? Yeah. Burned? I'm almost sure it was not the case.
#17 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
This isn't even hidden history. You never heard of the inquisition?
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#56 - vorarephilia (01/06/2016) [-]
Yes, but I never expect them.
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#18 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Burning heretics != "supress human evolution, distort the teaching of the Christ and use them as mind control for the population. Suppress knowledge".

Did you know the Church is the reason we have universities and high, critical and analytical education? I'm sure you didn't. Why are you brining up the inquisition here? It has nothing to do with the topic.
#116 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Actually, universities came to be in medieval times as state-run enterprises that allowed wealthy to gain education that allowed them to pursue positions of greater importance than what apprenticeships allowed.

The base for universities were libraries of church, (more like an inspiration, to have a place to gather, pass and concentrate knowledge) but by the time universities came to be called universities, they were pretty much enterprises independent from church, although theology was one of the subjects taught at all and every single university.

The fact is that Church tried to destroy any knowledge and theories that could potentially shaken the foundation of its teachings.
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#141 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authentica_habita

I forgot to say that Barbarossa was also important but as you can see, the Pope Alexander III also backed up. If it wasn't by him, that wouldn't have been possible.
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#134 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
No, the Church create the universitas and the popes themselves promoted them. Check it out.
#96 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
I remember hearing that the church is also the reason we have modern hospitals. Most early hospitals were actually religious clinics. That's where the cross comes from.
#117 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, there were independent medical doctors in medieval times, but yeah, one of the purposes of the church was to take care of sick and wounded. There was also an order called Hospitaliers, who specialized in providing things like protection and medical aid to European pilgrims traveling to Jerusalem.
#19 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
"Heretic" was just the favorite word of the time, like terrorist is today, to target people as the enemies so you can basically do whatever you want to them with the consent of people.

The mind control is the same and fear that is programmed into them (subconscious mind) through their parents and society. Example of the beliefs/programms:

-You're not worthy of good things, you must go through pain to cleanse yourself and deserve good.

-You're wrong (original sin)

-you must feel shame and guilt

-if you don't do good (what we tell you) you will go to Hell for an eternity

-feeding superstition in other ways like paying to have your sins removed

Yeah, the Jesuits have influenced the human population through their universities.


What you call higher knowledge is actually shit, primitive knowledge and some faulty theories (i'm mostly aware of the economic ones but some say, for example, the 2nd law of thermodinamics is wrong because it makes it seem as if tho free energy is impossible and super-luminal speed is impossible too)


When the planet is liberated from those controllers we will have real knowledge that involves consciousness and you will see hoe primitively we were living. you just don't have a good point of reference for example, just the manufactured version of history they teach you so you think you're living at the very edge of human progress.
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#92 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Living example of why you should constantly check your thoughts to make sure they aren't delusional.

Sorry, but you should see a psychologist or something.
#119 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, because random thoughts started appearing in my head and that's how i came up with all of this.


To call yourself delusional when you exit the "official" worldview is a bit... I don't know. Sounds like cult mentality but everyone's in the cult so it's not weird.
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#172 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Internet hoaxes can be very convincing sometimes. I read through some of this "Secret Space Program" you talked about in other comments. Almost believable, though it would make a better sci-fi book than an actual worldview. How the official source kept comparing it to "Battlestar Galactica" and "Star Trek" made me realize how much of a fantasy world he is living in, OR how well he is manipulating the foolish people who believe him.

Good luck man.
#190 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. That's soft disclosure. Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world. Project Paperclip is mentioned in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, for example.


you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses. There are both positive and negative factions right now trying to use those symbol to either control or free the population.



The Matrix is a great example of this, it uses a movie, a fictitious situation to explain the control syste of our world. As V puts it "an artist uses lies to tell the truth".
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#218 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
"Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world"

Always? No. If that were true, then let's find a couple of lightsabers and go on a quest to destroy the ring. I'll assume you meant "sometimes" for your sake, otherwise you'd be implying that no one has any creativity -- which would contradict your other post(>>#37).

"you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses"

I know, which is why I don't get my news from one source and am questioning you so strongly. You very well could be paid by these organizations to 'oversaturate the flow of information' with lies. In fact, it's impossible for anyone to know the truth to almost anything.

You saying "We're all The Creator. We all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace" in that other post(>>#37 again) sounds like something Satan might say to convince me I am 'like god'. So, according to the bible, the end times will be marked by widespread deception. If we are to assume that is correct, you would be a satanist and apart of these 'evil plans'.

>>#189, one the thing: With your perspective, the Discovery channel is also under this evil organization's control. So why are you trusting them? They are likely to be filling your head with lies as well!

Tl;dr: You arguments and logic have holes in them.
#222 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Because there are positive factions and the lower people don't know what the plan is. It could either be that some positive person wanted to talk about those bell aircraft. Oooor, the people who want them secret realized that they had to sacrifice exposing the most obvious and known part of it and say "I know about it. They did have beel aircraft but it never flew properly and everything was confiscated".
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#227 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Or it could be more negative faction propaganda? Anything could be negative or positive faction propaganda. Also, I assume you know that not everything you remote view is reliable, and astral projection as well. If you do that is. With what you were saying, it sounds like you do which is why I thought it important to bring that up.
#229 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It is not. first of ll, your own logic should dictate that if we have a visible Space Program. We're bound to have a hidden aspect of it AT LEAST in which Military Aplication is the goal.

But, we have evidence. From the accounts of whistleblowers, to some historic data. Google the Thule and Vril societies, for example.
#221 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The Bible was wrote by those seeking to control humanity.

The concept goes something like this.

imagine you created little soldiers made of dirth, and you wanted to explore their perspective. you have 3 soldiers. You "extend" 3 points of your consciousness and "put it" inside the soldiers.


now they're alive. They are you. It's you but from a smaller perspective. Each one of them would think of themselves as individuals. they wouldn't remember who they are as you. they would have their own experience and point of view.

At the same time, everything that "they" are experiencing, you're experiencing, because it is your own consciousness.



There's only ONE consciousness. One source. And we're all it, having different experiences.

That's why the GOLDEN RULE has always been in all religions "do onto others as you would have done onto you" because they ARE you.
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#223 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Plausible, and something I've thought about quite a few times before. Where did you learn this, and do you "believe" faith-based this or do you know it to be an undeniable fact? If undeniable fact, can you prove it with sources rather than your words? Any source/link/book/whatever will be acceptable.
#226 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The sources I could use, I guess would be ancient texts. I think Tibetan buddhists have this experience as well through meditation.

Science hasn't been able to discover consciousness in the brain cause it isn't there. but there hasn't been anyone who has been capable of proving it. How would you prove it?

I guess a way would be through DMT. Check Rick Strassman research. the famous "DMT: The Spirit Molecule".



Another way would be the work of Dr. Michael Newton, who through adanced regression therpy was able to access the memory of the soul and have very different subjects (age, nationality, beliefs) all have report back to him that there's indeed a "life between lives".

That proofs the existence of the soul (but that's consciousness with a light body). i guess you'd have to be in the sessions yourself to KNOW he is telling the truth but, my point is that from my perspective, his research validates what I experienced.
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#228 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
I'll watch "The Spirit Molecule" sometime. Would you mind going into what you've experienced?
#230 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Well... inone moment, which was the great realization that I'm consciousness, every false layer of who I believed I was was peeled back. I realize I could've been born with different parents, body, circumstances, everything could change in my life, and yet, there'd still be a constant.

The obsession was to find me, me, me (yo). to be with me, actually.


At what point I had stopped thinking of what the other people where thinking about me, which I wanted to stop and a voice in my head said "you've done it. now you've become part of a special group of intellectuals" something along those lines.


BUT, I recognized the trap. I said NO! why must I always need to try and attach myself to something else, bigger, to feel value? I just want to be me, me, me!



And then it was as if I had broken through or become separated from something invisible and felt completely at peace. I realized I was just a point of consciousness. a point of awareness. That was my real nature. Even my mind was not me, it was just an intrument and thoughts colored the experience with different flavors, but it was just the means for my awareness to have an experience.


I walked out the door and returned with my friends and they were all amazed in my change, they told me even tho they didn't really now what happened. Most curiously also, was that now they were fightng for my attention, and I was just sitting there being completely and naturally at peace.I tell oyu you could've cut off my ar and I would've realized it wasn't me so I wouldn't have suffered. Who knows about the pain, but at least I would know it isn't really me and I'm not being destroyed.


I can't. i can't be divided, cut, destroyed, change. i'm infinite and eternal and that's the great mystery. What pure awareness and consciousness actually is.



Another time it was less extreme but I realized the nature of the NOW. tHAT IT IS ALWAYS NOW AND THE NOW IS ALWAYS IN CREATION (caps came on their own). It's always now now now now now now now and just as this points create a line:


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So to it appears that things that aren't moving are still or they aren't changing while the things that move are changing but that's not true, everything is being created anew in the eternal NOW. So, I realized that the ida of me was just a story I was dragging along from now moment to now moment because it wsn't something that was, intrinsically, of the moment. it was something I carried with me, like a girl running with a kite stringed to her arm.

It was curious that that time I immediatly said "oh, it's god that I'm no longer him" referring to being me, because I realized how heavy I had been, all the weight I'd been carrying. Past failures that needed to be set right and lots of stuff.
#225 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Oh. That we're all consciousness? FACT. Experienced it. Came out of it, though. But you can never truly forget it. Like, right now if you cut my hand I'd go into panic because I'd feel I'm dying even tough it's my human mind giving me that experience. At that moment, I swear you could've taken my arm and I'd be cool because i realized that if it can be taken away then it's not me.

That we're all the same one consciousness. at first I felt it. I just new we were all one. when that feeling disappeared I started to think about it and I realized that it made more sense.

It is not something that can be taught. for example, all the people saying "Namaste" that write "it means I honor your divinity" have no fucking clue of what divinity is.

The divine self is the eternal and infinite self. the real one. And it's all of us. Being the peson you're now is like a dream. Like when in Rick and Morty they play the game... "Rob" was it called?
#219 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
You're an idiot. i can't talk to an idiot. The lightsabers and quest of the ringt are props, you idiot. The essence is the journey. the ring is the representation of power and how it corrupts people.

If you can't understand something so basic then there's no wonder the rest goes over your head.

Eat better and do more exercise and meditate and do emotional work and you'll become more perceptive, maybe it needs cleaning.
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#220 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
It would appear you didn't make it past my first paragraph without getting triggered due to a differing opinion. See here: tinyurl.com/zt7jfve
#224 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It amazed me because it was a very stupid thing to say. How you mentioned lightsabers and the ring.

Of course i'm not using the matrix to say we're living inside a computer. That's a literal interpretation.
#189 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is something that is going on, and it's not just the internet that has given me this information. (BTW, people seem to forget people is free access to ALL types of information. There's truth in it and also a lot of lies that are spread by intelligence agencies in order to muddle the waters. Once you cannot suppress the flow of information you can over-saturate it)



The Nazi Secret Space Program is only a secret in how much it was extended, but the bell-shaped aircraft they had has appeared on the discovery channel. They just didn't go into what they were doing in antarctica, and later how the work ws continued in the US with the nazis brought over through project Paperclip.
#20 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
You call the trivium and and the quadrivium "primitive knowledge"? Again, you have no idea what are you talking about. The trivium is a method of critical thinking and the quadrivium are the teachings of arts. You say many theories were faulty back then, but so are many that are coming today and so were many that came before those in the Medieval Ages. Errare humanum est and it has nothing to do with Religion but with our own nature.

Of course there was control by the Catholic authorities to the population, that shit is obvious. Of course many "heretics" weren't but political enemies (see the crusade called to John Lackland). Of course there was a control on the knowledge and even censorship. But they did not seek to "supress" knowledge. They wanted to preserve it and manipulate it. Most of the knowledge was lost not because of Christian intervention, but after the barbarian tribes broke into Rome settled there. Why do you think the "purge" didn't start earlier? Rome was Christian before those amounts of knowledge were lost.

I'm not theologian, you are brining up theology issues to a history matter. Also "I dont have a good reference because I was taught the history they teach me" fucking lel. Now this is when I know I'm talking with a delusional. I "haven't been taught" mindlessly as you want to put it, I've been told to read, I've been told to criticize, I've been told to investigate. I've been told to never say anything for sure. Could I be wrong? For sure. Could you be right? I guess. But the thing is, most sources are backing me up and honestly, you sound like one of those conspiracy theoricals, a person who prefers to believe. You can believe whatever you want, but I won't bother in trying to make you think otherwise because obviously I can't just throw facts at you and expect you to believe them since we are talking about beliefs: your beliefs.
#29 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
You just don't know enough. It's probably a valid conclusion with the information you have at hand.

how can i explain slavery and suppression of human potential to someone who has learned to see it as normal?
#30 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
>Implying slavery is a Christian thing
>Implying Christian Church didn't actually improve slaves' situation (maybe not a lot, but better than before)
>Implying you are making any point whatsoever or explaining anything
#35 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, I'm not explaining. hjonestly i'm too lazy for that. I would have to gather sources and explain things to you and maybe you won't even read them or you will reject it all on some reason.

I guess I shouldn't be arguing if that's the case, but I'm using the most basic concusion that are somewhat self-evident once you look with the right eyes.


We obviously have quite a gap between what your concepts and mine mean and view of the world.
#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are part of the slave system.
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
#28 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Hahaha

"Of Course we live in a Prison Planet, get over it"
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#21 - bigbadpapaboris (01/05/2016) [-]
you bring me back to not so long ago when I too was too a narrowminded "the church ruined the world" guy. Only recently I noticed how stupid I was. Continue spreading knoledge my friend, god speed.
#187 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Why can't you idiots see you're projecting?

Im not saying the Church ruined the world. I'm saying it was one of the instruments the controllers of this world used to further enslave humanity. All religions. The media is used for that purpose too. governmental structures too. the financial system.

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#231 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Even if this was true, what are you going to do about it? Just get along and be content of what you have a thi point, do charity if you want to help the others, there's nothing else you can do about it mate.
#232 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Of course there is. i was born to help in the planetary liberation. which you can do by liberating yourself. do emotional work, most of us are taught to suppress our emotions and literally carry within us a lot of suppressed emotional energy and that affects our ability to feel. also, heal your mind from their mental programs (beliefs).

In short, the greatest way to help in the liberation is to connect with your own inner guidance and rid yourself of everything that isn't you.
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#233 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Ok, now I'm gonna scientifically analize this situation :
You are a :
-1 Troll (Most accredited)
-2 Vegan Buhddihist Bush-did-9/11 Edgelord
-3 A guy who injected too many Marijuanas

C'mon man, stop wasting my time, bring up real shit or don't even bother responding.
#234 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
it is amazing. I'm not of that. but you seem to be hungry for labeling me and putting me in one of your boxes of preconceived notions so that you can invalidate me and feel good and go about your day.

I'm not gonna force you to change your mind. Have a good weekend.
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#11 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
>The Vatican
>Medieval Ages
Just with those two things I can tell you are talking out of your ass here. It has nothing to do with "the vatican wanting" shit. Thing is, education was out of most people's hand to the pont that even in Early Medieval Ages, most monks were iliterate. It changed when Charlemagne decided that in order to be a priest, you should be educated so you could educate others (and understand God's teachings) and from that point, every monastery wanted to have a decent-sized library.
#12 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
Tat's just light forces creating a positive situation out of the negative situation already created by the dark forces. I might be wrong, but wasn't it at that time that you were killed for being a heretic?
#13 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
"Light forces creating a positive situation out of the negative situation..."

What does being a heretic have to do with anything, anyway?
#15 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
The Vatican is Rome's child btw. Its task was to suppress human evolution, distort the teachings of the Christ and use them as mind control for the population. Suppress knowledge.
#66 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
You dropped your tinfoil hat buddy.
#67 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
FAULT. Ad Hominem attack.
#16 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Uh... sure, buddy.
#112 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, he isn't entirely wrong though. They burned people for saying that the earth is round and that the sun is the center of our solar system, along with calling stuff like herbology witchcraft.
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#139 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Also, I never claimed they didn't "censor" nor "control" knowledge. What I'm saying here is they sure did not want to "suppress" knowledge as a whole. That's retarded.
#173 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]

I mean yeah, you are not technically wrong, but most of their so called education extended only mostly on languages, reading writing and theology. Subjects like astrology and just about any knowledge that could threaten the fundamentals of theology were still closely controlled, and ideas and theories of those topics were often called heresy by church.

Oppression and threatening free thinkers is still called suppression of knowledge in my book. I call that censorship.
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#174 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Not at all, even when it wasn't against christian canon, the interest towards eastern medicine and other issues, that may be considered "heretic" by the most purists, growed at a very important rate. The thing is, we tend to consider the society as a monolitic entity and we have to understand that it was not.

I'm not trying to say the Medieval times was a paradise for the free thinking whatsoever, but it was not as oppresive as one could think.
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#135 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
I might be wrong but I'm almost 100% sure nobody got burned by saying the earth was round. Excommunicated? I believe so. Threatened? Yeah. Burned? I'm almost sure it was not the case.
#17 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
This isn't even hidden history. You never heard of the inquisition?
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#56 - vorarephilia (01/06/2016) [-]
Yes, but I never expect them.
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#18 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
Burning heretics != "supress human evolution, distort the teaching of the Christ and use them as mind control for the population. Suppress knowledge".

Did you know the Church is the reason we have universities and high, critical and analytical education? I'm sure you didn't. Why are you brining up the inquisition here? It has nothing to do with the topic.
#116 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Actually, universities came to be in medieval times as state-run enterprises that allowed wealthy to gain education that allowed them to pursue positions of greater importance than what apprenticeships allowed.

The base for universities were libraries of church, (more like an inspiration, to have a place to gather, pass and concentrate knowledge) but by the time universities came to be called universities, they were pretty much enterprises independent from church, although theology was one of the subjects taught at all and every single university.

The fact is that Church tried to destroy any knowledge and theories that could potentially shaken the foundation of its teachings.
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#141 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authentica_habita

I forgot to say that Barbarossa was also important but as you can see, the Pope Alexander III also backed up. If it wasn't by him, that wouldn't have been possible.
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#134 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
No, the Church create the universitas and the popes themselves promoted them. Check it out.
#96 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
I remember hearing that the church is also the reason we have modern hospitals. Most early hospitals were actually religious clinics. That's where the cross comes from.
#117 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (01/06/2016) [-]
Well, there were independent medical doctors in medieval times, but yeah, one of the purposes of the church was to take care of sick and wounded. There was also an order called Hospitaliers, who specialized in providing things like protection and medical aid to European pilgrims traveling to Jerusalem.
#19 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/05/2016) [-]
"Heretic" was just the favorite word of the time, like terrorist is today, to target people as the enemies so you can basically do whatever you want to them with the consent of people.

The mind control is the same and fear that is programmed into them (subconscious mind) through their parents and society. Example of the beliefs/programms:

-You're not worthy of good things, you must go through pain to cleanse yourself and deserve good.

-You're wrong (original sin)

-you must feel shame and guilt

-if you don't do good (what we tell you) you will go to Hell for an eternity

-feeding superstition in other ways like paying to have your sins removed

Yeah, the Jesuits have influenced the human population through their universities.


What you call higher knowledge is actually shit, primitive knowledge and some faulty theories (i'm mostly aware of the economic ones but some say, for example, the 2nd law of thermodinamics is wrong because it makes it seem as if tho free energy is impossible and super-luminal speed is impossible too)


When the planet is liberated from those controllers we will have real knowledge that involves consciousness and you will see hoe primitively we were living. you just don't have a good point of reference for example, just the manufactured version of history they teach you so you think you're living at the very edge of human progress.
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#92 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Living example of why you should constantly check your thoughts to make sure they aren't delusional.

Sorry, but you should see a psychologist or something.
#119 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, because random thoughts started appearing in my head and that's how i came up with all of this.


To call yourself delusional when you exit the "official" worldview is a bit... I don't know. Sounds like cult mentality but everyone's in the cult so it's not weird.
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#172 - shyyguy (01/06/2016) [-]
Internet hoaxes can be very convincing sometimes. I read through some of this "Secret Space Program" you talked about in other comments. Almost believable, though it would make a better sci-fi book than an actual worldview. How the official source kept comparing it to "Battlestar Galactica" and "Star Trek" made me realize how much of a fantasy world he is living in, OR how well he is manipulating the foolish people who believe him.

Good luck man.
#190 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. That's soft disclosure. Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world. Project Paperclip is mentioned in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, for example.


you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses. There are both positive and negative factions right now trying to use those symbol to either control or free the population.



The Matrix is a great example of this, it uses a movie, a fictitious situation to explain the control syste of our world. As V puts it "an artist uses lies to tell the truth".
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#218 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
"Stories have always been made to parallel events of the real world"

Always? No. If that were true, then let's find a couple of lightsabers and go on a quest to destroy the ring. I'll assume you meant "sometimes" for your sake, otherwise you'd be implying that no one has any creativity -- which would contradict your other post(>>#37).

"you gotta realize these people know of the power the media has. the power of Hollywood to influence and paint the worldview of the masses"

I know, which is why I don't get my news from one source and am questioning you so strongly. You very well could be paid by these organizations to 'oversaturate the flow of information' with lies. In fact, it's impossible for anyone to know the truth to almost anything.

You saying "We're all The Creator. We all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace" in that other post(>>#37 again) sounds like something Satan might say to convince me I am 'like god'. So, according to the bible, the end times will be marked by widespread deception. If we are to assume that is correct, you would be a satanist and apart of these 'evil plans'.

>>#189, one the thing: With your perspective, the Discovery channel is also under this evil organization's control. So why are you trusting them? They are likely to be filling your head with lies as well!

Tl;dr: You arguments and logic have holes in them.
#222 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Because there are positive factions and the lower people don't know what the plan is. It could either be that some positive person wanted to talk about those bell aircraft. Oooor, the people who want them secret realized that they had to sacrifice exposing the most obvious and known part of it and say "I know about it. They did have beel aircraft but it never flew properly and everything was confiscated".
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#227 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Or it could be more negative faction propaganda? Anything could be negative or positive faction propaganda. Also, I assume you know that not everything you remote view is reliable, and astral projection as well. If you do that is. With what you were saying, it sounds like you do which is why I thought it important to bring that up.
#229 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It is not. first of ll, your own logic should dictate that if we have a visible Space Program. We're bound to have a hidden aspect of it AT LEAST in which Military Aplication is the goal.

But, we have evidence. From the accounts of whistleblowers, to some historic data. Google the Thule and Vril societies, for example.
#221 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The Bible was wrote by those seeking to control humanity.

The concept goes something like this.

imagine you created little soldiers made of dirth, and you wanted to explore their perspective. you have 3 soldiers. You "extend" 3 points of your consciousness and "put it" inside the soldiers.


now they're alive. They are you. It's you but from a smaller perspective. Each one of them would think of themselves as individuals. they wouldn't remember who they are as you. they would have their own experience and point of view.

At the same time, everything that "they" are experiencing, you're experiencing, because it is your own consciousness.



There's only ONE consciousness. One source. And we're all it, having different experiences.

That's why the GOLDEN RULE has always been in all religions "do onto others as you would have done onto you" because they ARE you.
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#223 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
Plausible, and something I've thought about quite a few times before. Where did you learn this, and do you "believe" faith-based this or do you know it to be an undeniable fact? If undeniable fact, can you prove it with sources rather than your words? Any source/link/book/whatever will be acceptable.
#226 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
The sources I could use, I guess would be ancient texts. I think Tibetan buddhists have this experience as well through meditation.

Science hasn't been able to discover consciousness in the brain cause it isn't there. but there hasn't been anyone who has been capable of proving it. How would you prove it?

I guess a way would be through DMT. Check Rick Strassman research. the famous "DMT: The Spirit Molecule".



Another way would be the work of Dr. Michael Newton, who through adanced regression therpy was able to access the memory of the soul and have very different subjects (age, nationality, beliefs) all have report back to him that there's indeed a "life between lives".

That proofs the existence of the soul (but that's consciousness with a light body). i guess you'd have to be in the sessions yourself to KNOW he is telling the truth but, my point is that from my perspective, his research validates what I experienced.
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#228 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
I'll watch "The Spirit Molecule" sometime. Would you mind going into what you've experienced?
#230 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Well... inone moment, which was the great realization that I'm consciousness, every false layer of who I believed I was was peeled back. I realize I could've been born with different parents, body, circumstances, everything could change in my life, and yet, there'd still be a constant.

The obsession was to find me, me, me (yo). to be with me, actually.


At what point I had stopped thinking of what the other people where thinking about me, which I wanted to stop and a voice in my head said "you've done it. now you've become part of a special group of intellectuals" something along those lines.


BUT, I recognized the trap. I said NO! why must I always need to try and attach myself to something else, bigger, to feel value? I just want to be me, me, me!



And then it was as if I had broken through or become separated from something invisible and felt completely at peace. I realized I was just a point of consciousness. a point of awareness. That was my real nature. Even my mind was not me, it was just an intrument and thoughts colored the experience with different flavors, but it was just the means for my awareness to have an experience.


I walked out the door and returned with my friends and they were all amazed in my change, they told me even tho they didn't really now what happened. Most curiously also, was that now they were fightng for my attention, and I was just sitting there being completely and naturally at peace.I tell oyu you could've cut off my ar and I would've realized it wasn't me so I wouldn't have suffered. Who knows about the pain, but at least I would know it isn't really me and I'm not being destroyed.


I can't. i can't be divided, cut, destroyed, change. i'm infinite and eternal and that's the great mystery. What pure awareness and consciousness actually is.



Another time it was less extreme but I realized the nature of the NOW. tHAT IT IS ALWAYS NOW AND THE NOW IS ALWAYS IN CREATION (caps came on their own). It's always now now now now now now now and just as this points create a line:


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So to it appears that things that aren't moving are still or they aren't changing while the things that move are changing but that's not true, everything is being created anew in the eternal NOW. So, I realized that the ida of me was just a story I was dragging along from now moment to now moment because it wsn't something that was, intrinsically, of the moment. it was something I carried with me, like a girl running with a kite stringed to her arm.

It was curious that that time I immediatly said "oh, it's god that I'm no longer him" referring to being me, because I realized how heavy I had been, all the weight I'd been carrying. Past failures that needed to be set right and lots of stuff.
#225 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Oh. That we're all consciousness? FACT. Experienced it. Came out of it, though. But you can never truly forget it. Like, right now if you cut my hand I'd go into panic because I'd feel I'm dying even tough it's my human mind giving me that experience. At that moment, I swear you could've taken my arm and I'd be cool because i realized that if it can be taken away then it's not me.

That we're all the same one consciousness. at first I felt it. I just new we were all one. when that feeling disappeared I started to think about it and I realized that it made more sense.

It is not something that can be taught. for example, all the people saying "Namaste" that write "it means I honor your divinity" have no fucking clue of what divinity is.

The divine self is the eternal and infinite self. the real one. And it's all of us. Being the peson you're now is like a dream. Like when in Rick and Morty they play the game... "Rob" was it called?
#219 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
You're an idiot. i can't talk to an idiot. The lightsabers and quest of the ringt are props, you idiot. The essence is the journey. the ring is the representation of power and how it corrupts people.

If you can't understand something so basic then there's no wonder the rest goes over your head.

Eat better and do more exercise and meditate and do emotional work and you'll become more perceptive, maybe it needs cleaning.
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#220 - shyyguy (01/08/2016) [-]
It would appear you didn't make it past my first paragraph without getting triggered due to a differing opinion. See here: tinyurl.com/zt7jfve
#224 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
It amazed me because it was a very stupid thing to say. How you mentioned lightsabers and the ring.

Of course i'm not using the matrix to say we're living inside a computer. That's a literal interpretation.
#189 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is something that is going on, and it's not just the internet that has given me this information. (BTW, people seem to forget people is free access to ALL types of information. There's truth in it and also a lot of lies that are spread by intelligence agencies in order to muddle the waters. Once you cannot suppress the flow of information you can over-saturate it)



The Nazi Secret Space Program is only a secret in how much it was extended, but the bell-shaped aircraft they had has appeared on the discovery channel. They just didn't go into what they were doing in antarctica, and later how the work ws continued in the US with the nazis brought over through project Paperclip.
#20 - arandomanon (01/05/2016) [-]
You call the trivium and and the quadrivium "primitive knowledge"? Again, you have no idea what are you talking about. The trivium is a method of critical thinking and the quadrivium are the teachings of arts. You say many theories were faulty back then, but so are many that are coming today and so were many that came before those in the Medieval Ages. Errare humanum est and it has nothing to do with Religion but with our own nature.

Of course there was control by the Catholic authorities to the population, that shit is obvious. Of course many "heretics" weren't but political enemies (see the crusade called to John Lackland). Of course there was a control on the knowledge and even censorship. But they did not seek to "supress" knowledge. They wanted to preserve it and manipulate it. Most of the knowledge was lost not because of Christian intervention, but after the barbarian tribes broke into Rome settled there. Why do you think the "purge" didn't start earlier? Rome was Christian before those amounts of knowledge were lost.

I'm not theologian, you are brining up theology issues to a history matter. Also "I dont have a good reference because I was taught the history they teach me" fucking lel. Now this is when I know I'm talking with a delusional. I "haven't been taught" mindlessly as you want to put it, I've been told to read, I've been told to criticize, I've been told to investigate. I've been told to never say anything for sure. Could I be wrong? For sure. Could you be right? I guess. But the thing is, most sources are backing me up and honestly, you sound like one of those conspiracy theoricals, a person who prefers to believe. You can believe whatever you want, but I won't bother in trying to make you think otherwise because obviously I can't just throw facts at you and expect you to believe them since we are talking about beliefs: your beliefs.
#29 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
You just don't know enough. It's probably a valid conclusion with the information you have at hand.

how can i explain slavery and suppression of human potential to someone who has learned to see it as normal?
#30 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
>Implying slavery is a Christian thing
>Implying Christian Church didn't actually improve slaves' situation (maybe not a lot, but better than before)
>Implying you are making any point whatsoever or explaining anything
#35 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Yeah, I'm not explaining. hjonestly i'm too lazy for that. I would have to gather sources and explain things to you and maybe you won't even read them or you will reject it all on some reason.

I guess I shouldn't be arguing if that's the case, but I'm using the most basic concusion that are somewhat self-evident once you look with the right eyes.


We obviously have quite a gap between what your concepts and mine mean and view of the world.
#36 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You think religions are what's wrong. That religions refrain human potential. Well, guess what? Religions bred states. States brought people together. People together is what have achieved the biggest and most important feats in our history. You may discuss the religious institutions have played an important role in degrading a certain sectors of the population in others' benefit and I won't deny that. But whether you believe or not, religions are the reasons we have states now because religions have given monarchs a "divine persmission" to rule. Everything notorious the mankind has achieved is thanks to the religions you seem to hate that much. You don't know anything.

You are trying so hard to sound smart, you are saying "I could explain to you, but I won't", patronizing me. I'm explaining my position and you are just there, repeating "I wouldn't understand" or that "I wouldn't read it". Well, whatever. Believe whatever you want, you probably haven't read this or that other wall of texts I've posted so I may aswell be like you and not explaining anything. Oh wait, I won't because I actually have sources and knowledge about the topic. Something you don't.
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#46 - xif (01/06/2016) [-]
So would you say that religions are pretty much a evolutionary stepping stone into a societal organization?

Im not arguing, just asking questions and shiet.

oh yeah Selfdenyingbeggar is a dumb fack.
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#47 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Religions are the main connecting element to people. I'm not an expert yet , I'm just a student but as far as I've read, every single early civilization (and even the subsequent ones) are based on the same main pillars and one of them is the Religion. Since humans are humans, we've had an abstract thinking and a wonder of "what's beyong the physical realm". Religious institutions have taken advantage of that need in most humans of believing in something and have used it to connect people, to make people feel they belong to something. Soon, those institutions will give "permission" (for example saying "god wills this guy to be the ruler) to monarchs to rule, and that's how the first states are born I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself too well but it's kind of hard to explain since English is not my native language . Is it a evolutionary step? I wouldn't say so, but it is a step forward to a more complex social organization. Without relgion and religious institutions, we probably would be still living in small villages of farmers.
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#48 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
beyond*
I need some sleep.
#37 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Okay, here's the kicker.

We're all The Creator. we all have creative potential. We're Physical Angels. We're heirs of grace.

Humanity and the whole planet was taken over by negative extraterresrial that were invited since the times of Atlantis.



We could all be living in a society with free enrgy in which we recognize that we are all One and the same,literally, and so live in the planet as a family. Live along with nature, cause we're nature and we're wearing the planet (our bodies) and living in harmony with animals, and actually helping improve the conditions of nature itself, since, just like we've used our creative potential to destroy it, we can also enhance it like the rest of the animals do.

There ha been progress made by the people who saught to bring Light into the planet. But we're operating from a disempowered state. we're a traumatized species with amnesia.



What you're seeing right now in Syria is a proxy war. US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, the negative rulers of those countries and their slaves will be removed from power. There's an alliance on Earth looking to liberate us from the debt-money financial system slavery.



There's also already a Secret Space Program right now in which they have healing technologies that could benefit all of humanity, the technology to travel through or solar System and beyond and give free energy to all. Lack as we know it in this planet is an artificial construct.



There are ETs and a lot of them are humans or humanoid and they've been part of Humanity's history since it's inception.



The things you can more easily find proof of in the net, are the financial system slavery

It's inevitable collapse


UFO topic being suppresed and ridiculed. Whistleblower statements of government dealings with Ets both positive and negative



Secret Space Program (which originate din germany in the 1930s with the Thule Society) and then continued in the US thanks to project paperclip.
#78 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
im the anon from #77 and that is my opinion about your opinion, wich i find a little extravagant, we are not alone but we are not a massive amount of ignorants, keep learning about space and history, dont talk shit on others religions, dont shove your opinion in others face, but feel free to defend yourself, live long and happy, and know, that i as a human being, i hope you to live the 20-60 years left of your live happy, dont stop living life.
#77 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
i think you have a "weird" point of view about our planet. i can tell you that, if they were ETs in the galaxy, we wont be able to see them, at least for some million years, the secret space program doesnt seem too of a good theory, we need to create machines that allow us to live eternal before creating rockets that need to be in space for millions of light years, now, if it is for energy, i would believe the secret space program, as they could make some plans about using all of our solar system resources, ways to travel in space, make new life, and create pods. we are creators as we are destroctus. i cant think of a reason of why something alive from out of this planet would do a negative impact against us one that didnt kill us what is happening in syria is a civil war, where religion got involved. if we arent making progress now that we are at less than a hundred years for making machines to live forever, than damn we could have been a better specie. we could all be living in a free energy/food society, but there would be more crime and less security althoug i dont like capitalism . the UFO topic is being suppresed, because we have more problems involving our planet and our specie to worry about some extraterrestrial entities, global warming is top priority right now, but the next time the media brings out UFO topic, it would be how to comunicate, treat, react and survive if contact where to happen, because humanity will be preparing for leaving this world and entering others, we will be the ETs and we will, in less than 10.000 years, rule over the galaxy if we discover a way to go in a faster way than speedlight, if no multiply the amount of years per 5 million
#86 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
global warming is a hoax. That it is man made, not the change in the climate. It's because of the "new" energy we're receiving which is part of our evolution and liberation of the planet.
#84 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
UFOs are both positive and negative ET vehicles and vehicles of the Secret space Program
#83 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
The top-top of the pyramid "to put it in layman's terms, the bosses of the bosses of the illuminati, (even tho now that term serves mostly as an umbrella term to refer to Secret society Luciferians) Are negative extra- terrestrials. The Archons.
#82 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
superluminal speeds are possible. not to mention the existence of stargates (wormholes).
#70 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
now, i dont find the conection between the vatican trying to make people ignorant and some asimov comics combined with history channel
#72 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I don't watch the history channel and have no idea what asimov comics are
#81 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
asimov is a russian bioquimic and a writter. he make a series of stories and comics i think he made the comics, could as well be adaptations of books that described a distant future in witch we use direct solar energy solar panels in the sun , humanoid and giant structures of robots with synth kind of IA and technology for imnortality as a daily basis, he maked the three rules of robotics and marked a path for humanity to follow.


i sayed the history channel shit, because of alien memes
#87 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Oh. That was probably soft disclosure. He is describing things that supposedly already exist. (The machine getting energy directly from the Sun would be very advanced civilizations)
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#52 - kyteflyer (01/06/2016) [-]
/his/ just turned to /pol/
#68 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They say this kind of things in /pol/?

Then they really took the time to find out what's going on. Nobody has the complete picture as of yet, there are various elements in the equation but I'm glad people are drawing closer to the truth. At least, doing a good job researching, that's my view of the world.
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#61 - takesgu (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't you mean /x/?
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#39 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Let me guess, you think Aliens built the pyramids too, right?
#69 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
They weren't tombs, I can tell you that much.

The great Pyramid of giza was the place where the final "initiation" was taken by members of Egiptian Mystery Schools (which studied consciousness)
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#217 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
>comparing your thing about conciousness to the universal law of gravity
>comparing your belief (because it's not even a theory nor a hypothesis, it's just a plain belief) to a sustained theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

You are hilarious. You are talking like a metaphysical philosopher. And you want to know what happens to metaphysical philosophy? It brought no real knowledge even when it's much older than science.

How do we know we exist by the way? Why can't we be in a virtual world like Matrix? Why yes, I'd like some evidence backing up our existance. All of us.

Also, personal experience is not flawless.
mashimo.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/bertrand-russells-inductivist-turkey/
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#214 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You've claimed to know the truth. And you are claiming to know stuff you don't need sources to. No backsies now.
#216 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
do you honestly need a source to tell you you exist? No. direct experience is good enough for that. direct experience also showed me that I'm pure consciousness.
#212 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Sure buddy, you do know. You know everything, go enlight the world with your wisdom, oh master Truth Bearer.

As I've explained earlier, a lot of religious pepople claim to know there's a god and to know what kind of god there is. Your claim is NO different from theirs because you can't prove anything. Just. Like. Them.
#215 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
fuck me. i guess that would've been a good argument to shut off the guy who noticed there was something called gravity but couldn't prove what it was

Want an example that you're consciousness? You are aware. you're gonna say that's your brain but science doesn't know that. they suppose, but can't even prove it. Why? because consciousness sin't generated in the brain. Like someone said, it's like trying to look for the radio announcer inside of the radio itself.
#213 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I don't know everything.
#209 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You seem to ignore part of what I'm saying. You are implying I'm claiming to know everything and you are also implying I'm claiming the scientific method to be perfect. And I'm getting rather tired of repeating myself and arguing over this nonsense. I'm not "accepting the truth", there's no "accepted truth", you are fucking wrong. There's no truth, there are just theories. The only one claming to have the Truth is yourself, not me.

Also, pic related. Since you've pointed out my previous one, I'll point out yours.
#211 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not using what I say as an argument of why you should believe it, I already left that clear, but, that I'm not being religious or having faith. because this is something I know.
#210 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Because i know it. FUCK. you exist. that's not an opinion. that's TRUTH. you can know truth.

The TRUTH is that your real nature is pure consciousness. you're infinite and eternal and you're using that power to have the experience of being a human.
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#207 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
You are just another religious person who "knows" everything and "knows" there's something we can't explain with science. Get off your high horse, you are just like the others.
#208 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Science hasn't been able to find consciousness in the brain because the brain doesn't generate consciousness. You're someone who is dependant on what authority figures will tell him without understanding what he is being told. Are you aware that belief and dogma also run rampant in scientific circles? If you don't go with the accepted truth, you risk losing your reputation, just by talking about taboo subjects.

Watch "The Science Delusion" it's a Ted talk. I'm not saying there's no merit to the scientific method. But it's not perfect.


I know what consciousness is. I've experienced myself as pure consciousness. i know this just as I know I exist.



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#205 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Whatever dude, you are just another believer. Don't shit on religion, you are believing in one.
#206 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
you don't seemm to be able to tell the difference between knowing from direct experience and blind belief because someone said so.

What I'm saying about consciousness is something that I discovered by myself.
#203 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"I feel I was ready. I feel I was meeting the truth" Now you are talking as someone who has embraced a faith. How ironic someone who shat on religion so much happens to be a person of faith. But I am not. I need proofs and a nice fairy tail and a couple of theories and patterns won't work. Have fun with your faith, if it floats your boat good for you.

A big difference between you and me is, you know the truth. I never claimed I do. You say what I "believe" is not the truth, and I say that what you believe might be the truth, I just happen not to believe it because it lacks a scientific base. I'm someone who constantly doubts of everything and deals with the information who has at the moment (so I might change my opinion, and probably will, in the future) and you have found your truth. You, my friend, are a religious person.
#204 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not a person of faith. I've seen my true nature is consciousness, not even mind. Pure, infinite, eternal, awareness.
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#201 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm not "actively trying not to believe". I just don't see the sense in their explanations, it sounds like a belief with no scientific base whatsoever. Does it sound good? I guess. But it's not science. It's just a made up metaphysical explanation. Do you believe that? It's great. But don't try to make it look as science because it's not.

Also, you are the one trying to persuade me. You are the one enlighting me. Why should I be the one googling about information? You are the one who understand, shouldn't you be the one sending me the sources that better explain it?
#202 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
No. i'm giving you "clues". "cool stuff". when I first heard about this information, well , I guess I was ready and I attracted it to me. It felt like hearing truth, which feels like hearing something you already knew but didn't remember. I was hoping the same would happen to someone, even you if I keep sharing, and then maybe you'd feel curious and want to check more information about this.

In my own journey, I've come to realize I'm the Creator (as is everyone else because we're all truly one. You are me and i'm you). I'm also an extraterrestrial soul incarnated from the ]Pleiades and I'm here to help with the planetary liberation and my passion is to live the Second Renaissance and create create create.



I wish you to join in the celebration of knowing about the true reality we live in. Our extra-terrestrial family. Source love for us. your infinite power. A world with free energy where people explore their creativity and talents and there's no lack.

That's the world we're heading into, but first we have to liberate the planet from the people who have been controlling it.

I know this is just my pov, from your perspective, and it would be very irresponsible to change your belief system just because I say so. But I hope the energy in these words wakes up something inside on you and allows you to FEEL.

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#198 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
I've watched the video and:
1. It basically uses math to create a pattern. Cool. That's the only "science" there is. The interpretations of what it means and how it was formed are completely made up and it's just another belief, just as religion could be (in fact, it quotes the Bible)

2. Most of the assumptions the video does (it was known by other civilizations) are basically followed by a random picture as a "proof" but I don't see any kind of link to an external work that explains how do they say those ancient civilizations knew about it nor whatever the meaning they could attribute to that pattern.

And again, I repeat: even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why pyramids weren't tombs. It. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. It.
#200 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
And yeah, this still doesn't explain the pyramids, it was just about showing you that sacred geometry isn't just "advanced geometry". go check the book and there it explains how the whole pyramid itself was an instrument to evolve consciousness.
#199 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Dude, google flower of life, ancient civilizations and you'll get the info you want.

you're actively trying to not accept this, you aren't seeing it objectively or you just don't understand the importance of it.
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#196 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
"the flower of life" is basically a new age belief. There's no proof of its existance. That video you showed me proves nothing because it's just a "imagine X is like this". It's the opposite of a scientific statement. Maybe science is not perfect, but for now it's the best we got and all I'm hearing in that video is someone who discovered a pattern and interpretates it as something meaningful. And for that, quotes the Bible to make up statements. You believe in that? That's cool, I won't meddle in that. But it's just a belief. It's not science.

Also, even if all this was true, it still doesn't explain why do you say "pyramids aren't tombs"
#197 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
It is a fact it was known by the ancient civilizations we know of (like China). Please watch the video I linked to you and then comment. The mathematics of it are undeniable and you can see why it is such an important information.

Modern scientist like Nassim Haramein think it could be the basis of the structure of the vacuum.
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#193 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
Of course it's based on advanced geometry and mathematics, there's no way ancient egyptians could've built pyramids without those knowledges, I never claimed otherwise. But "sacred geometry"? That's just a cool made up term used for an advanced knowledge of sciences by the egyptians.
#195 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1ajWeY_wc


You can jump to 1:55 for the basic explanation of how it starts. Spirit Science knowledge of Sacred Geometry comes from the book The Flower of Life.
#194 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Sacred Geometry is called that way because it honors consciousness as the building block of reality. It's the geometry of consciousness, you could say, and thus, reality.

Just see how the patter of the flower of life was discovered. It starts with Spirit's original moves in the void.
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#191 - arandomanon (01/07/2016) [-]
The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek? I ask for source and you give me that? Get the fuck out, that guy has no credentials whatsoever except for a major in physics. He's a "traveler" who teaches meditation to people, what the hell does he know about history? Nothing.
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#137 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can tell me they weren't tombs? Oh, geez, thanks for enlight me so much with your sourceless statement. I see all I've read and studied made by specialist on the matter is wrong because some guy who believes in aliens and some other stuff tells me otherwise. Thanks for making me see the truth.
#192 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
He will very much show you how the pyramid is made and the basics of sacred geometry. that's math, that's not something you make up. It is its own evidence. Check for yourself. There's other things in that book that you probably won't believe. But the mathematical part is unquestionable.
#188 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
read The flower of Life by Drunvalo Melchizedek and learn for yourself about sacred geometry and how it was used in the Great Pyramid and for what purpose.


There's a control of information in this planet, if you haven't noticed.
#31 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I didn't imply slavery is a Christian thing. Religions are part of the slave system.
#32 - arandomanon (01/06/2016) [-]
Good lord, shut up.
#74 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
another ad hominem attack, and I don't know what it's called but there must be something about creating faulty association.
#73 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
I'm not being like that. Those people are butthurt because they themselves are atheists and they considered anyone who believs in a God to be an idiot. (even tho they don't see their own aggresion and lack of self love is them succumbing to the programming rampant in this world, too)

I do believe in the Source. The Creator. You and me are it.
#28 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/06/2016) [-]
Hahaha

"Of Course we live in a Prison Planet, get over it"
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#21 - bigbadpapaboris (01/05/2016) [-]
you bring me back to not so long ago when I too was too a narrowminded "the church ruined the world" guy. Only recently I noticed how stupid I was. Continue spreading knoledge my friend, god speed.
#187 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/07/2016) [-]
Why can't you idiots see you're projecting?

Im not saying the Church ruined the world. I'm saying it was one of the instruments the controllers of this world used to further enslave humanity. All religions. The media is used for that purpose too. governmental structures too. the financial system.

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#231 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Even if this was true, what are you going to do about it? Just get along and be content of what you have a thi point, do charity if you want to help the others, there's nothing else you can do about it mate.
#232 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
Of course there is. i was born to help in the planetary liberation. which you can do by liberating yourself. do emotional work, most of us are taught to suppress our emotions and literally carry within us a lot of suppressed emotional energy and that affects our ability to feel. also, heal your mind from their mental programs (beliefs).

In short, the greatest way to help in the liberation is to connect with your own inner guidance and rid yourself of everything that isn't you.
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#233 - bigbadpapaboris (01/08/2016) [-]
Ok, now I'm gonna scientifically analize this situation :
You are a :
-1 Troll (Most accredited)
-2 Vegan Buhddihist Bush-did-9/11 Edgelord
-3 A guy who injected too many Marijuanas

C'mon man, stop wasting my time, bring up real shit or don't even bother responding.
#234 - selfdenyingbeggar (01/08/2016) [-]
it is amazing. I'm not of that. but you seem to be hungry for labeling me and putting me in one of your boxes of preconceived notions so that you can invalidate me and feel good and go about your day.

I'm not gonna force you to change your mind. Have a good weekend.
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#128 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
That is correct.

But "help me move my bed"? What the fuck? Is that some kind of common pick-up line? That's just too ambiguous for practicality.

Granted, dude was dumb for bringing someone else because how heavy could a bed possibly be, but still.
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#122 - sweetjessierose (01/05/2016) [-]
Can confirm
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#130 - psychotayto (01/05/2016) [-]
Why do you feel like that though? you honestly think the guy would judge you and call you a slut if you just told him you liked him or found him attractive?
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#131 - sweetjessierose (01/05/2016) [-]
Not quite as much as just straight up saying to them "I want your dick in me". Honestly I wouldn't say either of those things sober , as I have a huge fear of rejection
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#89 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
Sooooooooooooooo with all the lessons and new teacher I got you .... when will the masterpiece be ready?
#113 to #92 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
dude did you just....
#115 to #114 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
DO IT!
#118 to #117 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
I meant this one
#116 to #115 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
Even this was made. Mexico city and the city of the state Mexico are now one because they are now together, the buildings. But there, like in ecatepec, it is known that those are pretty dangerous areas.

Another name for it is Mordor. lol.

Mexico City's most infamous place is called Tepito. It is also considered like Mordor (or isengard)and is full of orcs (chakas i.e. "ghetto" people with their own subculture that is usually violent).
User avatar #93 to #92 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
whoa
#94 to #93 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
glad you like it It's nohere close to what I see in my head... well, the pose is... but there's still much work.
#95 to #94 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
p-pose?
#96 to #95 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
yeah haha
#97 to #96 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Is Erma full of PyramidCum or what?
#98 to #97 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
not yet.

sorry, bro, I swear I'm not making ths up yesterday a friend got us together to let us know that a friend of mine who had been kidnapped was found dead and we well dealt with that
#99 to #98 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Mada Mada Dane



What the **** happened??
#100 to #99 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
Well, she was kidnapped for money about 3 months ago. Her family didn't pay the full ransom but payed 6 million pesos. after they got the money they executed her. At least they were caught but that doesn't return Jess back to us. her name was Jessica.
User avatar #101 to #100 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
>pesos





Well that about explains it , ******* thugs will stoop so damn low...
#102 to #101 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
Yeah. things have gotten worse here, lately. well, all around the world but...

Even for us Mexicans who were used to live knowing about kidnappings, something like this isn't common. It's really ****** up. She was 22.
#103 to #102 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Police doesn't do **** ?
#104 to #103 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
Well, that's not exactly right. Some are in on it. (lol).

The people who did this to her were apprehended. But it was too late. At least it wont happen to another person through their hands, but, they don't really prevent it and I haven't heard of an actual liberation of someone. I guess it has happened.
User avatar #105 to #104 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Why don't they move out of these ****** hoods?
#106 to #105 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
what do you mean?
User avatar #107 to #106 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Well wherever they lived must have had REALLY **** living-conditions.
#108 to #107 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
Not really. she wasn't kidnapped where she lived.
User avatar #109 to #108 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
**** .... Is there any "safe" part of Mehico?
#112 to #109 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
They live in the shadow the light doesn't touch. you must never go there.
#110 to #109 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/17/2015) [-]
Well, mostly it's just "safer" but I guess there are safe parts.

I mean... I've only been mugged once. I haven't had altercations with people and when I walk through certain parts of the city than i know and depending on the hour, like, if you are in the mall at 3pm, of course you feel safe. I feel relatively safe walking at 3:00 am when there's no one on the street, back to my place from a party or a friend's house or something
User avatar #111 to #110 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/17/2015) [-]
Jesus... there aren't more types of those guys around right?
#90 to #89 - selfdenyingbeggar (12/16/2015) [-]
I think it will have to be toorrow or later :/ I was chating online and then went to eat and then worked on my idea of a jedi profile picture.

I wanted to do this... the inspiration came in the morning so I gave it priority. rest assured, that I want to learn again to draw females so you'll be getting plenty drawings.

check out my Jedi Me. It's still only a... however it is called when it's not the finished thing.
User avatar #91 to #90 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
wow
User avatar #81 - thumbfortrump ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
I bet you would love Putin's dick throbbing in and out of your throat right now, wouldn't you.
#84 to #81 - selfdenyingbeggar (11/29/2015) [-]
you got so mad that I think you're a faggot.
User avatar #85 to #84 - thumbfortrump ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
Nope. But you definitely are for Putin Why is the thought of making love to an older man so exciting for you?
#86 to #85 - selfdenyingbeggar (11/29/2015) [-]
hahaha you're the one imagining people having sex with old mean. Have fun with that, faggot.
User avatar #87 to #86 - thumbfortrump ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
Have fun sucking Putin's dick, bro
User avatar #80 - admin (11/12/2015) [-]
sup brah
#83 to #80 - selfdenyingbeggar (11/29/2015) [-]
how are handling these past fee days? it's been an intense time
#82 to #80 - selfdenyingbeggar (11/29/2015) [-]
not much brah
User avatar #77 - themagicdalek (09/13/2014) [-]
ponys are gay
#78 to #77 - selfdenyingbeggar (09/13/2014) [-]
thank you for expressing yourself
#70 - lunargreenhouse (08/01/2014) [-]
Hello there
#72 to #71 - lunargreenhouse (08/01/2014) [-]
You where searching for Brony/Pony board? Or more precise, where they are completely accepted (just not always are the topic)?
#73 to #72 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
Yup. I want to share my alternate ending for My Little Dashie
#74 to #73 - lunargreenhouse (08/01/2014) [-]
Well. From hearsay, I don't know a better place on FJ to share that. We're open to nearly anything, just. Don't expect immediate response on your work before talking a bit and saying hello. They want to know who you are first
#75 to #74 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
really? why? I've always thought that what's important is the message not the messenger. the art, not the artist.
#76 to #75 - lunargreenhouse (08/01/2014) [-]
Its pure curiosity. New persons are something exciting and their work gets overlooked at first.
The message is indeed more important than the messanger in usual.
#54 - lightarcanine (08/01/2014) [-]
Reading through your comments, I see you're an honest person.

I do have a question, though, why exactly do you want to rewrite the ending of the fic?
User avatar #88 to #54 - tarabostes ONLINE (12/16/2015) [-]
I don't know ..... The end just seems like it could use some changes.....
#55 to #54 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
because I'm not.. content is the word? sattisfied? with Celestia's explanation at the ending of why the protagonist can't go to Equestria. I think I have a reply that both makes sense in a real way to me and that would've convinced Celestia, cus of her wisdom I guess.

So in my alternate ending he does GO to Equestria. And I've been told that i'm not a bad writer myself, I have my linguistic-word (I speak spanish though) intelligence the most developed.
User avatar #56 to #55 - lightarcanine (08/01/2014) [-]
Then I say go for it.

And let me know how it goes.
#57 to #56 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
Here, it's what I've wrote, like the base of it. I'm gonna polish it.

Then I suddenly felt a nod in my heart. I knew I had to do this even if my mind feared that i would not happen I knew I had to try. I knew it was right.

"Celestia? I ask to come into your world."

"I'm sorry but that can't be. It's because of an accident, somethng that should't have happened that Dashie is here and now we have to make things right"

Celestia, you work with magic, I assume you must believe in some higher power. What is an accident but something that happens regardless of everyones expectations as to what it should BE? I do believe this isn't just some random mistake, it has healed my heart and know I want to be with the person I love, I'm from this world but I've loved yours from the moment I've watched the TV show. I felt like I wanted to escape from here and go to your world. Who are we to question existence and what has already happened?

"In truth there's another reason. I can't allow you to come to Equestria because I cannot predict what effects would a human living in our world would have. I cannot take the risk that the seed of evil will take hold there as it has done in this world"


Celestia, what I've learned from my life, my life with Dashie and being a human in this world is that basing your actions on fear is what creates a world like this. It's what most people do on this planet. It's what makes us close our hearts from one another.

I'd be the only human in equestria and afte ri died there's be no other and since this happened and had such an effect in my life, perhaps some good can come out of this path. If something shouldn't be, then it simply wouldn't be. Can you at least try to take me there?
User avatar #58 to #57 - lightarcanine (08/01/2014) [-]
It seems plausible.
#60 to #58 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
Also the whole "this all shouldn't have happened" seems like a very immature respone for a "horse goddess". Trying to get "life back to normal" when change happens is a very human thing to do (cus of fear) insted of embracing where unpredictable change leads us which i think is a more positive attitude
#59 to #58 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
the thing about basing your actions on fear is true. It is what he did when he didn't tell Dashie about her origin and that ultimately hurt her and yeah it's what we're programme dto do in this world which separates us.

Also, his desire from the verybeginning is to BE in Equestria, it comes full circle.

The writing needs some work, it's my ideas and I have to put it in their character personalities.



Hmmmm anything that you'd like to point out?



(also yeah i know there are many mistakes, I was writing and thinking it)
User avatar #61 to #59 - lightarcanine (08/01/2014) [-]
If anything, add more description of how the characters are acting at this point. Otherwise, it seems like hollow speech.
#62 to #61 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
oh yeah haha I just wanted to write those ideas Before I Forget and you're right.

do you agree on my points? the other replies I just made
User avatar #63 to #62 - lightarcanine (08/01/2014) [-]
It's good to show the Princess as Childish, adds depth.
#66 to #63 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
(if you're talking about what she tells to the protagonist I think it also shows how much the protagonist has grown, he reaches a stage of maturity at the end and not in the traditional forced view of "I'm an adult now so i know it must be painful". But in the "live is the answer, not fear" kind of way.

#64 to #63 - selfdenyingbeggar (08/01/2014) [-]
Celestia? childish how?
User avatar #65 to #64 - lightarcanine (08/01/2014) [-]
"It shouldn't have happened" or "That's just not how it works"
#51 - presidentmoose (06/23/2014) [-]
See? OP always delivers, my friend. Can I count on your vote? or maybe a subscription?
#52 to #51 - selfdenyingbeggar (06/23/2014) [-]
it's gorgeous. You have my sword.
User avatar #53 to #52 - presidentmoose (06/23/2014) [-]
And you have my Moose
User avatar #49 - sniperfumbles (05/29/2013) [-]
You waded through a red sea to educate others. I respect you.
#50 to #49 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/29/2013) [-]
Man, your comment made me feel better, thanks.
#35 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
hahaha dumbass christian go somewhere else with your christfag ******** . darwin is the only truth. evolution is a fact
#36 to #35 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/02/2013) [-]
...

You're a disgrace to atheists. Your comment is the equivalent to "You atheist satan adroing piece of **** . You're going to hell because you don't love god".
#37 to #36 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
hahahahaha i'm not afraid of your imaginary torture realm. your threats are meaningless to me!!! hahaha stupid ass
#38 to #37 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/02/2013) [-]
Dude, seriously, you've got the wrong guy. I'm not a christian. Go bother someone else.

And also btw, you're a terrible troll. You sound like a child.
#39 to #38 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
lol do you think i care about being called a troll by a fail troll? you're not so good at trolling either buddy. now **** off , you science denying christfag.
#40 to #39 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/02/2013) [-]
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now that you have replied defending yourself I know it affected you.
#41 to #40 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
didn't you just ******* reply defending yourself. lol you're so stupid dude. no wonder you believe in bronze age fairy tales
#42 to #41 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/02/2013) [-]
I did so from a detached point of view. Right know I'm trying to get some sense into you if you indeed think I'm a christian and are mocking me because of it. If you're a troll, I don't know what feelings are you trying to get off your chest, maybe telling me about it would be better.

I know on the other side there's another person who laughs, probably has some secrets, has loved and probably hasn't been loved back. I want to stay with that image because I feel there's a friend there.

You can continue mocking me if you like but this is not the christian you're looking for
#44 to #42 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
>detacthed point of view

so another words u were just pretending to be a troll right? lol sure buddy
#43 to #42 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
lol i'm getting pretty sick of your logical fallacies dude. you believe in a book of lies. just admit that you're a woman hating, bigoted racist faggot who holds back progress by spreading myths! i ******* hate you fundies
#45 to #43 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/02/2013) [-]
so you hate me because I hate?

...? do you see it?
#46 to #45 - lulzfoursandyhook (05/02/2013) [-]
lol is that ur pitiful attempt at logic? ahahaha u have no logic dude thats why your a christian
#47 to #46 - selfdenyingbeggar (05/02/2013) [-]
and what are you?
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User avatar #9 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dosVibwAIs

Well this one's good... I'll see if I can't find some more...
#13 to #9 - selfdenyingbeggar (09/04/2012) [-]
**** me! that song is good. thank you.
User avatar #14 to #13 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
No problem bro. Happy to help out a fellow FJ user any day.
User avatar #10 to #9 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYzyABA-prw

I like this one, won't find it on ITunes though
#15 to #10 - selfdenyingbeggar (09/04/2012) [-]
this one I liked but it's for a different mood than I am right now (not sure if that's how you say it eng 2nd lang)
User avatar #11 to #10 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKZrDqvldg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwXyxBRRxOk

Not really dubstep, but good songs nonetheless. If you want to go check out some of these artists' other music, go for it. I haven't really looked into mimosa, the guys who made psychadelic stereo, but glitch mob is ******* great, I haven't heard a bad song by them. Yeah, enjoy.

also I think the devil's den is skrillex's only good song
#16 to #11 - selfdenyingbeggar (09/04/2012) [-]
zombie one was also pretty good, more so towards the ending and animus vox is great
User avatar #12 to #11 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHhKIChMbw

I forgot that psychadelic stereo one... here it is
#17 to #12 - selfdenyingbeggar (09/04/2012) [-]
I loved this sound. thanks a lot. I think this and the first one were my favs. You've made someone happy today.
User avatar #18 to #17 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
Yeah man, enjoy
#19 to #18 - selfdenyingbeggar (09/04/2012) [-]
I might be going to a completely different side. But if you listen to neverland by marillion you'll get a rape-your-heart feeling. or anesthesize by porcupine tree when you're feeling paralyzed. or I'd recommend animals or meddle by pink floyd (they're both albums)
User avatar #20 to #19 - hueyfreeman (09/04/2012) [-]
Alright, I'll go listen to those when I have some time. I'm doing some online class work browsing fj in another tab :P
#6 - unncommon (08/28/2012) [-]
I'm such a good person.
#21 to #6 - selfdenyingbeggar (10/08/2012) [-]
It hasn't gotten old, I just saw it and started laughing. Nice try though
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