I only agree on the scene they introduce Rey. That for example, was made with inspiration. Feeling. BB-8's name is a good name.

That movie is a visual masterpiece. But when you see it again you realize it's a bad movie too. The visuals are amazing. The story is the same old-same old.

They'd probably be the same types of people who watch movies that are made to just have something that passes your time while you sit there eating popcorn and call it "good".


Good movies are the ones you don't even need popcorn with and amazing movies are the ones inwhich you legit forget you had popcorn (it has happened to me. I don't remember if it was with the Return of the King or what movie...)

That movie is a visual masterpiece. But when you see it again you realize it's a bad movie too. The visuals are amazing. The story is the same old-same old.

#252
My rant about characters.

You're only justifying it mentally. As if looking at the concepts by itself, reading the screen. you didn't SEE or FEEL the movie.

How do I explain this... it's as thought you're only thinking of it mentally. Like concepts.

But you can write "lightsord battle". Or "intense lightsaber battle" and both sound cool. But in the actual film. you can have people who clearly felt they were on the set of a movie without believing they own acting.

On paper, the movie would sound way better than it actually was to watch it. because they couldn't even deliver well their own ideas.



It's like the difference between reading a joke, and having a good comedian and a bad comedian say it.

It was a reference to a 4chan post.

Now, excuse my anger it's not directed at you personally, just my lack of udnerstanding.

Why the fuck do people thing it was a good continuation and a good movie?? Does everyone really have such shitty taste or have they become so numb due to hours and hours of shitty material on the media that they have become blind to beauty and actual creativity?? Can't they realize the differenc between someone half-assedly putting recycled elements of Star Wars to try and trick you into thinking you're wathcing Star Wars, without even trying to have fun with it?


-Han Solo's character is destroyed. Even the New Indiana Jones movie (which was shit as well) did more justice to the original character. Han Solo is now weak, he became a smuggler again. He didn't end up with Leia. He makes stupid jokes and acts awkwardly like he was making an audition for The big Bang Theory.

-Leia and Han's chemistry is non-existant.

-Both villains are laughable. One is a fucking idiot who throws tantrums like a baby and when you see it just think "weak". The other is the most generic CGI made villain possible, with the stupidiest name. "Snoke". Sounds like something someone would name their cat.

-Oh yeah. there was a captain something stormtrooper in there as well who made me cringy but I can't quite put my finger on why. It is a try to appeal to people by bringing the GoT actress.


-the story consisted on them running around from one pointless thing to the other in the attempt to fool you into thinking something of worth was actually happening ("what was that?"). He did the same in the first star trek but at least he had more fun with it there.



-He isn't honoring the old Star Wars by copying those elements. Like if it was a song, this wouldn't be a cover. it would be like someone trying to play the same song but doing a shit job at it and playing it with no heart.


-the humor. such stupid, transparent, I saw the joke coming from miles away, humor. "Awkward humor" which I'm growing to loathe because it's everywhere and it just basically means "act like an idiot to get laughs" when at first, the beauty of that kind of humor was to show human vulnerability so you could empathize.


- Kylo Ren killed Han solo like a faggot. that scene had no depth and they just wsted Han solo's death in the most pathetic way possible.

-It basically makes episode VI non-existant because all of it's accomplishments, the ones of the characters, are destroyed by this movie, so that they can do the same shit again and call it a "new trilogy".

-That trooper with the beating stick was such a dumb thing to put in there.

-The new Death Star. they even have to have Han saying "it's bigger, so what?". As if joking about it would make the idea less stupid.


-the new pilot of the x wings tried to say "wooo!" and shit like that to get you excited but it didn't because he didn't feel it and you could feel that.


It's just plastic. Heartless.



I remember liking like 3 scenes. One was when they show Rey for the first time in so e ruins. THAT was interesting, mysterious, and you felt like you were exploring a new corner of star wars, but it didn't live long. The other is when Han explains that the Jedi and the force "it's real. all of it." I still get chills.

The other was when Luke shows up, but they ruined it by making it so unnecessary long, with them just awkardly staring at each other while the camera spins.

#252
My rant about characters.

You're only justifying it mentally. As if looking at the concepts by itself, reading the screen. you didn't SEE or FEEL the movie.

How do I explain this... it's as thought you're only thinking of it mentally. Like concepts.

But you can write "lightsord battle". Or "intense lightsaber battle" and both sound cool. But in the actual film. you can have people who clearly felt they were on the set of a movie without believing they own acting.

On paper, the movie would sound way better than it actually was to watch it. because they couldn't even deliver well their own ideas.



It's like the difference between reading a joke, and having a good comedian and a bad comedian say it.

Have you ever watched a good movie?

I was disappointed, but I had waaay too high expectations. I rate it above 1 and 2, and barely below 3. And the originals of course. 7/10

You expected a good movie. It isn't just because of high expectations, it was a piece of shit.

Star Wars: The big Bang Theory.

>Poor acting
>Awful characterization
>Rehashed plot
>Cringe worthy dialogue
>Forced feminist agenda

MFW you ain't wrong.

thank you! doesn't it amaze you that people can't see it?

Yeah. and it does influence people. my mother took it personally when I said that I didn't like it and she even said "Well, everyone else has said it is very good".

I'm gonna rant a little, need to get it out of system.

About characters:
Luke - hero who saved galaxy, would sacrifice himself for his friends, faced terrible enemies, fought in war... Now is some pathetic hermit who ditches family, friends, entire galaxy to sob at some island watching sea for 20 years.

Han - was cynical swashbuckler but with big heart. Now is naive babysitter. Dying in the absolutly most pathetic way. Old one Han would dispose of his failure son. Not even metioning what would actually happend if his sonny returned home? Have a nice dinner with mummy and pappy and maybe be punished by not getting desert? He would be sentenced to death [he murdered billions of people]. How would anyone actually take this?

Leya - She does not have any screen time, but she is pretty naive and pathetic too.

Finn - Brainwashed since childhood grow coscience in one minute. Refuse to obey orders and kill. After few hourse he is killing his fellow comrades in arms with no problem. WHAT THE FUCK? First female he meets after almost dying twice and flying from his masters and he asks her if she has boyfriend? He did not even get name, he know anything about relationships? Have he even seen woman without armor before? HE IS ENEMY, the droid knows he is LIAR, why everyone believe him and even let him near their commanders. He wants to run away [in the pub], grow concious second time and start fighting openly with the Order which scares him shitless.

Rey - Mary Sue. Why should I actually care about her? Just because she in not eating well with her half rations? /cry Or because she did not sell the droid? Why did she not do it? Makes no sense. Oh, wait. To let audience know she has heart made of gold. How pure soul... You know nothing bad can happend to her, so you dont care about her at all.

That pilot - Make idiotic decision? Why he did not flee and did stupid attack? Survive crah from outer space? Really? After torture, fall from space he actually hitchhike some spaceship on desert(ed) planet while there is Empire attacking? Grow so strong bond with some stormtrooper that is wonder he did not start sucking his cock when their time together crossed one hour time.

Kylo - make character badass or pathetic but not both. Make him unstable, you can do that, but during his rage moments let him murder people, not boom into computer keyboard... People even dare to call him "complex"... What a joke. His conclift makes no sense. Why he worships Vader, when he turned good in the end? He grow up in Skywalkers family, they will tell him stories about his granpa saving entire galaxy since day one. HE CAN NOT BE REHABILITATED. He [joined group that] murdered billions. He will be executed or given life sentence. Who would take that deal? What is his agenda? What does he wants? Why does he wants that? And the fight. And the deus ex machina...

And this is only character wise rant...

I am so fucking pissed about this movie. Biggest movie disapointment in my life.

exactly! exactly! thank you. thank you. why can't people see it??

typo

There's people in this world who enjoy eating shit. Literally.

what did you like?

I only agree on the scene they introduce Rey. That for example, was made with inspiration. Feeling. BB-8's name is a good name.

No. it's not well crafted.


It's exactly what you said minus that, watch: "Just a soulless copy of A new Hope that appeals to the masses"

The way I described it was "Recycled elements half-assedly put together". he didn't even try to have fun with it.

They'd probably be the same types of people who watch movies that are made to just have something that passes your time while you sit there eating popcorn and call it "good".


Good movies are the ones you don't even need popcorn with and amazing movies are the ones inwhich you legit forget you had popcorn (it has happened to me. I don't remember if it was with the Return of the King or what movie...)

That movie is a visual masterpiece. But when you see it again you realize it's a bad movie too. The visuals are amazing. The story is the same old-same old.

why do you say that?