By the gods, it should be illegal to be THIS stupid

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

Pot. Kettle. Black.

By the gods, it should be illegal to be THIS stupid

What kind of English is this?

Either way, you can dislike the movies, but that doesn't change the canonity of them. George Lucas wrote the series. He created the canon.

Pray tell, who is the real creator and writer of the story then?

Diggin a hole

You know George originally planned on three trilogies right?

Holy fuck I have MET people diagnosed as autistic and still haven't met anyone as bad as you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

The fact that the prequels are bad movies does not render them not canon. They are recognized as part of the canonical Star Wars universe along with The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series and all books and comics released under the Disney banner.

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

how can someone be so wrong?

Dude...do you legitimately not understand how the Star Wars cannon works?

What kind of English is this?

Either way, you can dislike the movies, but that doesn't change the canonity of them. George Lucas wrote the series. He created the canon.

Pray tell, who is the real creator and writer of the story then?

Mate. They're literally made by Lucasfilm. Just because you think they're shit, doesn't make them any less canon.

They ARE canon.

Anything that is shown in the movies is considered G-Canon, the highest "type" of canon in the Star Wars lore.

Just because you keep denying reality doesn't make things any different.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

By the gods, it should be illegal to be THIS stupid

The word you're looking for is Retcon.

A lot of the Prequel stuff fucked up the lore of the original trilogy. It was either retconned(Said it never happened essentially) or made new lore based on gaps in the original trilogy. The prequels are created by George Lucas, and therefor canon. Anything NOT created by Lucas is now retconned and not considered canon outside of JJ-Abrams .

You know George originally planned on three trilogies right?

Holy fuck I have MET people diagnosed as autistic and still haven't met anyone as bad as you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

The fact that the prequels are bad movies does not render them not canon. They are recognized as part of the canonical Star Wars universe along with The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series and all books and comics released under the Disney banner.

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

how can someone be so wrong?

Stories don't have to make sense to be canonical. It's a story about wizards in space for gods sake. The meaning of the story belongs to the writer. Your opinion on it does not change that. That is why copyright law exists, so writers hold the exclusive right to what is and isn't canon in their own stories.

That's wrong.

The prequels were created by the original creators
They take part in the original timeline of events
Within the original universe.
They are a different part of the exact same story.
Why do you say they aren't canon?

The word you're looking for is Retcon.

A lot of the Prequel stuff fucked up the lore of the original trilogy. It was either retconned(Said it never happened essentially) or made new lore based on gaps in the original trilogy. The prequels are created by George Lucas, and therefor canon. Anything NOT created by Lucas is now retconned and not considered canon outside of JJ-Abrams .

You know George originally planned on three trilogies right?

Holy fuck I have MET people diagnosed as autistic and still haven't met anyone as bad as you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

The fact that the prequels are bad movies does not render them not canon. They are recognized as part of the canonical Star Wars universe along with The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series and all books and comics released under the Disney banner.

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

how can someone be so wrong?

Stories don't have to make sense to be canonical. It's a story about wizards in space for gods sake. The meaning of the story belongs to the writer. Your opinion on it does not change that. That is why copyright law exists, so writers hold the exclusive right to what is and isn't canon in their own stories.

Oh my god put the fucking shovel down dude

Diggin a hole

i want your legitimate definition as to what you think canon means

That's wrong.

The prequels were created by the original creators
They take part in the original timeline of events
Within the original universe.
They are a different part of the exact same story.
Why do you say they aren't canon?

The word you're looking for is Retcon.

A lot of the Prequel stuff fucked up the lore of the original trilogy. It was either retconned(Said it never happened essentially) or made new lore based on gaps in the original trilogy. The prequels are created by George Lucas, and therefor canon. Anything NOT created by Lucas is now retconned and not considered canon outside of JJ-Abrams .

You know George originally planned on three trilogies right?

Holy fuck I have MET people diagnosed as autistic and still haven't met anyone as bad as you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

The fact that the prequels are bad movies does not render them not canon. They are recognized as part of the canonical Star Wars universe along with The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series and all books and comics released under the Disney banner.

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

how can someone be so wrong?

Stories don't have to make sense to be canonical. It's a story about wizards in space for gods sake. The meaning of the story belongs to the writer. Your opinion on it does not change that. That is why copyright law exists, so writers hold the exclusive right to what is and isn't canon in their own stories.

Disney killed it by abandoning the plot and cutting its budget. The sense of scale was completely off. Eight or so x-wings vs 20 tie-fighters completely diminished the importance of the battle. There should have been massive fleets, or at least larger ships fighting also.

The plot is just that of the original trilogy put in a blender and dumped out.

it even says it at the end of its first paragraph "After Lucasfilm's acquisition by The Walt Disney Company, the holiday special now falls under the Star Wars Legends banner"

no it's not. that only applies to the Expanded universe.

Shhh

That never happened

Oh my god put the fucking shovel down dude

Diggin a hole

i want your legitimate definition as to what you think canon means

That's wrong.

The prequels were created by the original creators
They take part in the original timeline of events
Within the original universe.
They are a different part of the exact same story.
Why do you say they aren't canon?

The word you're looking for is Retcon.

A lot of the Prequel stuff fucked up the lore of the original trilogy. It was either retconned(Said it never happened essentially) or made new lore based on gaps in the original trilogy. The prequels are created by George Lucas, and therefor canon. Anything NOT created by Lucas is now retconned and not considered canon outside of JJ-Abrams .

You know George originally planned on three trilogies right?

Holy fuck I have MET people diagnosed as autistic and still haven't met anyone as bad as you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

The fact that the prequels are bad movies does not render them not canon. They are recognized as part of the canonical Star Wars universe along with The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series and all books and comics released under the Disney banner.

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

how can someone be so wrong?

Stories don't have to make sense to be canonical. It's a story about wizards in space for gods sake. The meaning of the story belongs to the writer. Your opinion on it does not change that. That is why copyright law exists, so writers hold the exclusive right to what is and isn't canon in their own stories.

prequels? on my star wars?
more likely than you think

You're not canon.

ok lets be honest the prequals werent the greatest. BUT at least its not the star wars christmas special..... now that is worse than anything the prequals brought up (yes even worse than jar jar and the ewoks)

I think this might have been the only troll comment I've ever laughed at out loud. jesus fuck.

Bo Burnham is a cool guy, told a heckler to kill themselves.

I would argue they are terrible, would you like to tell me why you think they weren't bad?

Because I enjoyed them when they came out, and so did most everyone else until someone decided that a whiny kid from the desert who can't act well (Both Anakin and Luke) and annoying comic relief characters (Jar-Jar and the Ewoks) were suddenly the ultimate affronts to the Star Wars universe.

They also have the perk of being more recently made, and thus have cooler battle scenes.

Objectively they might not be good movies, but as far as being Star Wars movies they aren't bad at all.

I watched some guy online by the stage name Plinkett review the trilogy for about five hours. It was very entertaining, but to sum it up these are the main problems I can remember. The first one is that almost everything is computer generated, and there is barely any makeup, animatronics, or actually locations they shot at. To my understanding, literally everything was shot on a sound stage, and there wasn't a single shot that didn't have some sort of CGI. It was also not really a space adventure, as it focused on space politics that actually didn't make sense. The writing was really lame, no one has any character at all, and every scene of people talking is done while they either sit or stand, and sometimes walk, and it is always in shot-reverse shot. The choreography is a lot more complicated, but none of that matters when they're really isn't any emotion to the fights. Darth Maul was a fucking terrible character, along with just about everyone else. To really illustrate why I say they're so fucking terrible, I challenge you to describe their character without saying what they look like, what their job was, or anything physical, just describe their character. Han Solo had a character you could describe, he's arrogant, cocksure of himself, he's a womanizer, he's superficial, but he's a thief with heart of gold, and proves to be a loyal friend. Now describe Qui Gon Gin, or Queen Amidalla. I can't do it. They also did a good job of fucking up a good bit of the lore, and are just another pillar to add to Hollywood's fetish for origin stories. They made the force something scientific, thus making Yoda look like an asshole for acting like it was mystical. They make Anakin seem like a whiny bitch who was tricked into joining the dark side, instead of an "old friend" who was seduced by the power of the dark side. I could go on, but I won't. But I could.

You're supposed to feel bad about Alderaan because it was where Leia was raised. Considering they blew it up and explained that was where she was from in the original trilogy that whole arc should already be covered for you.

They underdeveloped villains because ultimately Darth Vader was supposed to be the villain. It would detract from him if Maul were still kicking around. Yeah he should have had a bit more, but really compare him to Boba Fett and you don't find much difference. It wouldn't make sense to have Obi-wan's own struggles with the dark side be what sends Anakin down that path. The whole story is about Anakin's personal descent, spurred by the things that happen to him, not what happens to Obi-wan. Again, it would have detracted from where their focus was.

Yes they are. They're really crappy movies.

Pssssssst
There's nothing you can do to say what is and isn't canon, just saying ;)

I actually really enjoyed revenge of the Sith. For the other prequels I had to look past the bad acting and appreciate the insight they provided. I honestly thought the plot in the prequels was much more interesting and complex even though the movies themselves were bad.

Bad pacing, writing, acting, and cgi... But terrific world building, action, and ideas. Risks were taken, and I can appreciate that even if I have to sit through Anakin complaining about sand.

Very well said

CGI was pretty good or at the very least much better than the other prequels. Can't forget that beautiful score as well.

No, I'd argue the original trilogy suffered from a lot of cheesy acting, but it never got Hayden Christensen bad. The prequels had some great actors in it, Natalie Portman, Samuel Jackson, and Ewan Mcgregor to name a few, and even they couldn't save the films from the painful writing. SO yes, I'll agree acting has never been a strongsuit in this series, but the writing was much better in the originals which helps a lot for mediocre actors blending in.

other way around. the acting's alright, well body acting wise, the dialogue is...just bad.

"I don't like them so they're non-canon."

As much as I hate the goddamn god-awful prequels, at least I never went full retard like you

Dude...do you legitimately not understand how the Star Wars cannon works?

What kind of English is this?

Either way, you can dislike the movies, but that doesn't change the canonity of them. George Lucas wrote the series. He created the canon.

Pray tell, who is the real creator and writer of the story then?

Mate. They're literally made by Lucasfilm. Just because you think they're shit, doesn't make them any less canon.

They ARE canon.

Anything that is shown in the movies is considered G-Canon, the highest "type" of canon in the Star Wars lore.

Just because you keep denying reality doesn't make things any different.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

By the gods, it should be illegal to be THIS stupid

You enjoyed Ep. III because it had the most of Ian McDiarmid, arguably the best actor in the prequels (Liam Neeson not withstanding)

Oh, and there's Ewan McGregor's monologue after the duel which was well acted.

But otherwise you really have to deactivate your brain to enjoy that movie

Yes, they are just as bad.

They're badly written & badly directed, with some really cringe-worthy acting ("Ani... you're breaking my heart!" for instance)

Yeah, aside from some bad acting and writing, episode three is actually really good. Best story out of the three and the climax was fantastic. It also didn't suffer from the terrible pacing issues of episode 1 and 2.

it even says it at the end of its first paragraph "After Lucasfilm's acquisition by The Walt Disney Company, the holiday special now falls under the Star Wars Legends banner"

no it's not. that only applies to the Expanded universe.

Shhh

That never happened

Oh my god put the fucking shovel down dude

Diggin a hole

i want your legitimate definition as to what you think canon means

That's wrong.

The prequels were created by the original creators
They take part in the original timeline of events
Within the original universe.
They are a different part of the exact same story.
Why do you say they aren't canon?

The word you're looking for is Retcon.

A lot of the Prequel stuff fucked up the lore of the original trilogy. It was either retconned(Said it never happened essentially) or made new lore based on gaps in the original trilogy. The prequels are created by George Lucas, and therefor canon. Anything NOT created by Lucas is now retconned and not considered canon outside of JJ-Abrams .

You know George originally planned on three trilogies right?

Holy fuck I have MET people diagnosed as autistic and still haven't met anyone as bad as you.

Whether it's art or shit is irrelevant. It's canonical, and you disliking it doesn't change that

The fact that the prequels are bad movies does not render them not canon. They are recognized as part of the canonical Star Wars universe along with The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series and all books and comics released under the Disney banner.

By Disney, who own the Star Wars franchise. Nobody cares about you.

how can someone be so wrong?

Stories don't have to make sense to be canonical. It's a story about wizards in space for gods sake. The meaning of the story belongs to the writer. Your opinion on it does not change that. That is why copyright law exists, so writers hold the exclusive right to what is and isn't canon in their own stories.