Well of course. The first generation of VR won't be cheap. It's definitely going to cost more than the oculus, unless they do some blood magic or sell it at a loss. And the thing with oculus is that you're not even getting the complete package with the base model, in Q2 they're releasing those nun-chuck controllers that vive has at launch. So oculus is just half-assing everything right now just so they could be the first on the market.

Oh, yeah I forgot about that. Damn they're bad at this ! With a multi-billion USD company like Facebook you'd think they had at least a couple talented salesperson. But apparently not.
And that's a shame.

personally im really worried about how compatible glasses are
i dont want to get contacts just so i can play vr games. im making the assumption that if the headset has ample space to fit glasses in it’s gonna be at least somewhat comfortable
it’s expensive. it’s really expensive, and apparently the vive will be too. i guess some people will find it useful to have a headset and gamepad bundled with it but honestly since theyre aiming at the really high end market that would shell out 600 bucks for a gpu to play vr and 600 dollars for a vr headset i think they missed the mark on target audience by a pretty wide berth. i just wanted to program myself a waifu and be done with human contact, but they give me all this extra stuff.
htc and facebook do actually have the ability to lose quite a lot of money on the whole vr thing so while i do think its valiant of the developers to cut profits to make the headset cheaper, i dont particularly anything but gauging the market on pricing and consumer centric features.
tl;dr i guess its cool but im really gonna go for the vive or something next gen

2 expensive 4 me since it already cost as much as my computer, but the xbox one controller sounds like a nice add on since they're pretty pricey to me as it is. The integrated headphones already sound like they'll be shit tho.

htc vive is the only vr headset that i'm interested in. Being able to move "freely" just adds so much to the vr experience.

I hope I'm wrong, but from the apparent quality of the hardware, the Vive will cost a shitton of money.
And you'll need a whole empty room to experience it fully. Other than that I agree with you.

Well of course. The first generation of VR won't be cheap. It's definitely going to cost more than the oculus, unless they do some blood magic or sell it at a loss. And the thing with oculus is that you're not even getting the complete package with the base model, in Q2 they're releasing those nun-chuck controllers that vive has at launch. So oculus is just half-assing everything right now just so they could be the first on the market.

Oh, yeah I forgot about that. Damn they're bad at this ! With a multi-billion USD company like Facebook you'd think they had at least a couple talented salesperson. But apparently not.
And that's a shame.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.

1920x1080

Then I have no fucking clue what's causing the performance drop, sorry.
You could try the usual troubleshooting methods, driver updates, system reboot etc. or wait for advice from the other members.

Thanks for trying to help, but honestly, I'm not too bothered by it. I like the smoothness of my regular monitor when it comes to playing games, and performance issues kind of mean jack when I just use the TV to browse the internet.

In the exact same conditions you have 60fps on your monitor and 30 on the TV ?

Your TV might simply be capped to 30Hz. A good confirmation of that is if the 30fps you're getting are perfectly stable.

Yep. My regular monitor can have about 80, even, playing the exact same game.

I've played WiiU games on this TV, and those run at 60fps just fine. I'll check out the settings to see if I can change this.

Also try using other video ports if you can. I don't know.